Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[skitter30]

yes ....
it seems really obvious to me that scum would want to fluff over posting content

[Chara]

the other thing bugging me about skitter is how much she's been focusing on FL so far. that read is a little dependent on how much skitter's townplay relies on finding obvtown/conftown and trying to work with them.

?

you don't need to read him, but you're interacting with him quite a bit, at least that's how it feels right now. could be nothing, could be that you're in the unfortunate position of having to deepwolf against FL.

[skitter30]

chara i like exactly nothing of what you're saying rn

and i'm mostly surprised that fl is townreading me here because of [redacted] and i can't elaborate

[Flavor Leaf]

the other thing bugging me about skitter is how much she's been focusing on FL so far. that read is a little dependent on how much skitter's townplay relies on finding obvtown/conftown and trying to work with them.

?

you don't need to read him, but you're interacting with him quite a bit, at least that's how it feels right now. could be nothing, could be that you're in the unfortunate position of having to deepwolf against FL.

Why do you assume Skitter would think she would be able to deepwolf against me?

[Chara]

yes ....
it seems really obvious to me that scum would want to fluff over posting content

i feel like this avenue isn't going to lead to any more useful discussion than it has, so let's move on. it seems obvious to

me

that any player who is comfortable as scum might be just fine posting easy earlygame content as they are fluffposting.

[skitter30]

tbf chara didn't actually say that i'd enjoy it but i don't like how it's positioning me rn

[skitter30]

yes ....
it seems really obvious to me that scum would want to fluff over posting content

i feel like this avenue isn't going to lead to any more useful discussion than it has, so let's move on. it seems obvious to

me

that any player who is comfortable as scum might be just fine posting easy earlygame content as they are fluffposting.

i mean i dropped it several pages back, you've kept asking me abt it

[Chara]

Why do you assume Skitter would think she would be able to deepwolf against me?

i've heard she was good as scum and has successfully deepwolfed.
i have no context for her relationship with you or for the power of your towngame.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why would Skitter be the one to be chosen to be the deepwolf is what I'm asking.

I don't think she'd accept it.

Also, damn, Unwnd's impression of me.

[Morning Tweet]

Can't decide whether Chara got lucky knowing it'd be scummy for me to play game over fluff or if it just got a good sense of how to read me

Complicating this further, i didnt really think i was playing the game all that much lol. At least prior to the point where Chara had that feeling

But this doesn't seem to be the debate -- it seems more like we're determining whether it's scummy for Chara to be under the impression that less fluff = scummy for me. For me personally, i dont think so, but at the same time, im curious if i come off like i would fluff really hard to anybody else who has only played with me a little bit or not at all

pedit DAMMIT we're dropping it okay. Fair enough. The strength of the reads they've gotten on each other might be telling but obviously not ready to decide on that yet

[skitter30]

i absolutely would not want to be
depending on the scumteam i might accept it if necessary but i wouldn't want to; contrary to popular belief i don't, like, actually enjoy deepwolfing for the msot part

[Flavor Leaf]

Why do you assume Skitter would think she would be able to deepwolf against me?

i've heard she was good as scum and has successfully deepwolfed.
i have no context for her relationship with you or for the power of your towngame.

I don't know if it was her first scum game, but she was a newbie scum partnered with Eddie and I real early on when she was new here, and I've always pushed her and saw her as scum incorrectly before eventually flipping to town reading her.

Usually, I end up getting misfaded Day 1 in those games, but I digress.

[Chara]

yes ....
it seems really obvious to me that scum would want to fluff over posting content

i feel like this avenue isn't going to lead to any more useful discussion than it has, so let's move on. it seems obvious to

me

that any player who is comfortable as scum might be just fine posting easy earlygame content as they are fluffposting.

i mean i dropped it several pages back, you've kept asking me abt it

maybe it feels that way to you, but

skitter pinged in her response but i'm having a hard time articulating why, something about how her response was straightforwardly correct but failing to account for general weirdness in different players having different mindsets about what is plausible/pushable. just seemed very by the book.

i still don't think scum start this game that way
i think they join the general scumfest

not the case? i'm talking about why your response pinged, sure, but you reiterated your point, so i responded to it again.

[Flavor Leaf]

i absolutely would not want to be
depending on the scumteam i might accept it if necessary but i wouldn't want to; contrary to popular belief i don't, like, actually enjoy deepwolfing for the msot part

Deep Wolfing sucks. It's all about Open Wolfing. OWWWOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Chara]

Why would Skitter be the one to be chosen to be the deepwolf is what I'm asking.

I don't think she'd accept it.

Also, damn, Unwnd's impression of me.

idk, i've never been on a scumteam that was coordinated enough for someone to be a designated deepwolf. that play is... miles above where my own game is at.

[Chara]

i absolutely would not want to be
depending on the scumteam i might accept it if necessary but i wouldn't want to; contrary to popular belief i don't, like, actually enjoy deepwolfing for the msot part

i didn't think you enjoy it, mostly the responsibility is pretty terrible so i suppose if you were given the choice i do think you would avoid it.

[unwnd]

I don't think anyone would be chosen to deepwolf

Both You/Hectic are of chaotic nature, that's why on principle I'm not entirely reading your choices, because more than anyone

There's gonna be huge leaps of logic in order to reach expected results

[Morning Tweet]

I think you draft skitts with the intention that she stomps the town, but I don't think that's something you specifically instruct her to do, that's just what you do in the hopes it will happen. So i dont think it matters if she wants that role or not, it's just implied when you pick her!

As for interacting with FL though, haven't read those bits, so if that's important nvm.

[skitter30]

eh that was my second scumgame
and it's grown leaps and bounds since then (tm 2020 anyone?)
but i do usually try to plan in broad strokes who needs to go deep if possible, and in many pl's that's me, whether i want to particularly or not

either way i dislike the way chara is currently framing me

[Chara]

Can't decide whether Chara got lucky knowing it'd be scummy for me to play game over fluff or if it just got a good sense of how to read me

Complicating this further, i didnt really think i was playing the game all that much lol. At least prior to the point where Chara had that feeling

But this doesn't seem to be the debate -- it seems more like we're determining whether it's scummy for Chara to be under the impression that less fluff = scummy for me. For me personally, i dont think so, but at the same time, im curious if i come off like i would fluff really hard to anybody else who has only played with me a little bit or not at all

pedit DAMMIT we're dropping it okay. Fair enough. The strength of the reads they've gotten on each other might be telling but obviously not ready to decide on that yet

well, we're dropping the original point, i do think the stuff you're saying about your own play is interesting still!
it really didn't go any farther than "Tweet is fun! i like her, i wonder why she isn't fluffing more. i think i'll push her on this ping." that thought ended when you confessed you weren't a weeb and it occurred to me how mind-numbing the anime conversation would be to anyone who didn't watch anime.

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma Emerald, Titus, Chkflip, and Xtoxm.

I want to hear some from them, see where their heads are at. They're not going to be happy with the pace of this game.

I have met Titus in real life multiple times.

I have met Chkflip in real life once.

I have never met Xtoxm, but Xtoxm and I work really well together.

Gamma and I go like 6 years back. (Titus technically going on 7 since we met.)

I want to see their reads.

[unwnd]

FL

You said you picked me to lead policy

I think the best D1 wagon is within the slankers, yeah sure they're not gonna drop associatives immediately but you drag them out or they die and we gain another day to sort. Based on this alone? I'd suggest RC/Gamma/Lunar and then I think at least one of them flips scum. Definitely not a team thing or anything mind you. I don't think the scum right now if I'm reading Chara correctly are too interested in this conversation they're having with skitter, and while I'm paranoid of skitter I believe her entertaining is at least telling in how scum want to play this day.

I'll give you something to chew on, while the animeposting was all good and fun and great, do you think scum would take that opportunity to post more? It's hard to decipher by actual posts but that small instance could be a small comfort. I sorta think RCE dropping off after anime was done is most telling in that sense but that's leading confbias.

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't think anyone would be chosen to deepwolf

Both You/Hectic are of chaotic nature, that's why on principle I'm not entirely reading your choices, because more than anyone

There's gonna be huge leaps of logic in order to reach expected results

Day 3 I'll start to really get into the groove of things.

You've never gotten to see my deep game town game.

I personally think it's scarier than my scum game.

[catboi]

the other thing bugging me about skitter is how much she's been focusing on FL so far. that read is a little dependent on how much skitter's townplay relies on finding obvtown/conftown and trying to work with them.

Every take you post just makes me more and more worried. I don't see skitter as having interacted overly with flavor leaf at all, I think she's spoken about a number of people and this feels like a misrepresentation of her play.

[Flavor Leaf]

FL

You said you picked me to lead policy

I think the best D1 wagon is within the slankers, yeah sure they're not gonna drop associatives immediately but you drag them out or they die and we gain another day to sort. Based on this alone? I'd suggest RC/Gamma/Lunar and then I think at least one of them flips scum. Definitely not a team thing or anything mind you. I don't think the scum right now if I'm reading Chara correctly are too interested in this conversation they're having with skitter, and while I'm paranoid of skitter I believe her entertaining is at least telling in how scum want to play this day.

I'll give you something to chew on, while the animeposting was all good and fun and great, do you think scum would take that opportunity to post more? It's hard to decipher by actual posts but that small instance could be a small comfort. I sorta think RCE dropping off after anime was done is most telling in that sense but that's leading confbias.

I agree. I normally have an easier time reading RCE. Lunar is also someone I'm semi interested in knowing more.

I am starting to ease on Chara as well.

Ydrasse also disappeared after the anime talk.