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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:51 pm

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In post 63, Chara wrote:tell us the read kitty. is it me? i would like it to be me.
Oh gosh Chara wants my attention (ღ˘⌣˘ღ)

I'm actually not planning to state any reads right now, for at least the first pat of the phase.


I think most players here are pretty capable of playing in a manner that appears conventionally town when we're following the prescribed formula of "making reads" so I'm going to eschew that entirely and engage solely in banter in order to gauge reactions.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:51 pm

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I probably prefer Keep, if it matters. Purely from a playstyle perspective, I think it's ideal to have patience and cooperation there, since scum NEED a town to vote first and vote wrong. I have more faith in those abilities of mine than in pure read abilities, at least.

Gate could be alright, I think I'm pretty bad at 1v1s but I would enjoy the solving based on a known flip aspect if I'm uncleared. Being the clear sounds like a lot of pressure :shifty:

Wall is just standard and would be fine.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:52 pm

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In post 71, Chara wrote:
In post 65, Isis wrote:Chara's new avi is too good
i'm glad you like it. i lost my whole library of avatars when my last laptop died, this was one of the few that was saved and i'm too lazy to remake any of them.
oh no that's sad they were so nice
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:52 pm

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In post 75, catboi wrote:I'm actually not planning to state any reads right now, for at least the first pat of the phase
motherfucker i'm taking you out back
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:53 pm

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(i'm kidding that's fine for now)
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:53 pm

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In post 67, Faker wrote:This might just be a function of me being tired/illiterate but I don't know why people think the Keep would make me miserable. I'm pretty indifferent on where to go, I'd rather defer to others' preferences. The downside is more just that it resolves early but shrug, I like games like Trust Fall and Undertale exactly for the townhunting mechanic.

Gate is nice because I might get to do similar even though I'm not a great clear, and I haven't been voted out as town since early 2017. I'm not the best clear but I'd love to have the ball in my (winter) court this game, and if someone is down and thinks they can break the streak I'd love to see you try!
I might have gotten the names mixed up and I also might be misinterpreting/misremembering a comment you made last time. I thought you said something along the lines of that you would not enjoy the Gate, but that you thought it was the most +EV place for you to go.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:54 pm

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In post 76, Coral wrote:I would enjoy the solving based on a known flip aspect if I'm uncleared
Elaborate?
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:54 pm

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In post 75, catboi wrote:
In post 63, Chara wrote:tell us the read kitty. is it me? i would like it to be me.
Oh gosh Chara wants my attention (ღ˘⌣˘ღ)

I'm actually not planning to state any reads right now, for at least the first pat of the phase.


I think most players here are pretty capable of playing in a manner that appears conventionally town when we're following the prescribed formula of "making reads" so I'm going to eschew that entirely and engage solely in banter in order to gauge reactions.
thus making yourself very difficult to read!

i don't know how to play mafia without yelling about who is scum and who is town, kitty. i don't want to talk about the setup anymore. :<
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"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:54 pm

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In post 73, absinthe wrote:I feel better about being able to read catboi correctly this time.
nya purr uwu (๑ↀᆺↀ๑)✧
In post 74, Faker wrote:Eh I would really be wary, we've talked a bit about reading cat previously but that Newbie was not a good representation of his scum game.

I'd love to hardpunish him after he N1'd me in PYP but IMO he's a good candidate to quarantine in the Keep. Don't put that nerd in the wall though he'll blow it.
I'm so town that it's cringe
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:55 pm

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Prism go to bed.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:55 pm

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In post 81, absinthe wrote:
In post 76, Coral wrote:I would enjoy the solving based on a known flip aspect if I'm uncleared
Elaborate?
If you end up in the 1v1, you have one flipped scum from your POV to work with, prior to any games resolving. I think that sort of solving sounds appealing.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:56 pm

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ik but I like mafia

Okay though, I'll put full faith in the other players for once and believe that you'll be waiting for me after my nap~ (though I might go out if I'm energetic enough too ?_? idk help)
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:58 pm

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In post 82, Chara wrote:
In post 75, catboi wrote:
In post 63, Chara wrote:tell us the read kitty. is it me? i would like it to be me.
Oh gosh Chara wants my attention (ღ˘⌣˘ღ)

I'm actually not planning to state any reads right now, for at least the first pat of the phase.


I think most players here are pretty capable of playing in a manner that appears conventionally town when we're following the prescribed formula of "making reads" so I'm going to eschew that entirely and engage solely in banter in order to gauge reactions.
thus making yourself very difficult to read!

i don't know how to play mafia without yelling about who is scum and who is town, kitty. i don't want to talk about the setup anymore. :<
Then the solution is obvious: simply don't play mafia! What have you been up to lately?
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:59 pm

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In post 85, Coral wrote:
In post 81, absinthe wrote:
In post 76, Coral wrote:I would enjoy the solving based on a known flip aspect if I'm uncleared
Elaborate?
If you end up in the 1v1, you have one flipped scum from your POV to work with, prior to any games resolving. I think that sort of solving sounds appealing.
Ah, solving the other mini games. It wasn't computing in the context of solving the gate.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:00 pm

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In post 83, catboi wrote:nya purr uwu (๑ↀᆺↀ๑)✧
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:01 pm

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In post 78, Faker wrote:
In post 75, catboi wrote:I'm actually not planning to state any reads right now, for at least the first pat of the phase
motherfucker i'm taking you out back
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:01 pm

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well, i an easy retail job, i've been medicated for a year now, and i'm enjoying my life. :> how are you catboi?
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:04 pm

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I think Coral would make this kind of suggestion as scum and after reviewing their answer I do scumlean this. I don't think she expected anyone to actually follow this and is mostly in it for the towncred.
In post 43, Coral wrote:My belief from previous runs is that scum struggled the most when town did unexpected things in the midgame. I think a rigid solve order does put all of the pieces on the table, which allows for the more chess-like analysis of how things develop, and that's valid.

I think the reason I lean towards wanting to inject some areas of unpredictability here is that we really only have very few points of information gain compared to a standard game.
The unpredictability happens mainly because players are open/talking and suddenly town players take the ball and individually run the other way unexpectedly. This is a function of the degree of transparency of the players, not of them hiding the ball.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:05 pm

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Like shit the last run of this game was lost because the players in the Wall were extremely opaque. STD barely played, went completely AWOL by the end, and I have a hard time reading RH9 who is earnest but perhaps overly straightforward. Dwlee99 had a strong interaction on Day 1 which set him up way but that was not why we lost.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:05 pm

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set them up well* fuck sorry
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:06 pm

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I'm sorry y'all I'm me at the end of the day, I can't say no to playing.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:07 pm

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everyone stop posting for an hour to force Prism into a nap. if we all work together we can do it! hold hands and sing along!
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:08 pm

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i just want to be useful and not make aimless mech commentary while letting my eyes glaze over

is that so much to ask thing

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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:09 pm

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In post 92, Faker wrote:I think Coral would make this kind of suggestion as scum and after reviewing their answer I do scumlean this. I don't think she expected anyone to actually follow this and is mostly in it for the towncred.
In post 43, Coral wrote:My belief from previous runs is that scum struggled the most when town did unexpected things in the midgame. I think a rigid solve order does put all of the pieces on the table, which allows for the more chess-like analysis of how things develop, and that's valid.

I think the reason I lean towards wanting to inject some areas of unpredictability here is that we really only have very few points of information gain compared to a standard game.
The unpredictability happens mainly because players are open/talking and suddenly town players take the ball and individually run the other way unexpectedly. This is a function of the degree of transparency of the players, not of them hiding the ball.
i guess i don't really understand how applicable coral's post is anyway

like i assume the gate is often resolved first because the confirmed gets to continue to post and then the keep because it is more straightforward

but also if you really think the mafias are going to be shaping their entire plan around us having a solve order doesn't that make them easier to find
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:09 pm

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In post 91, Chara wrote:well, i an easy retail job, i've been medicated for a year now, and i'm enjoying my life. :> how are you catboi?
Glad to hear it! I'm doing fine myself, enjoying time off around the holidays, been gaming a little bit, was taking an enjoyable break from mafia (I was feeling fatigued) before I got yanked into this game by someone.

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