Mafia 54: TGFKA Moses in Egypt - Game over!

[Kelly Chen]

Day Five

A woman's body, devastated by gunfire, is found dumped behind a random hut.

vikingfan -

Miriam

- Killed night 4

Avenge Moses' SISTER, Egypt!


With 9 alive it is 5 to lynch!

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Wait, this means we win, right?

[MrBuddyLee]

Ha, nice try, scum. Looks like they tried to frame me up by killing Miriam as she targeted me.

M-M, who do we kill?

[Yosarian2]

Ha, nice try, scum. Looks like they tried to frame me up by killing Miriam as she targeted me.

M-M, who do we kill?

You are the Miriam, a hider. Every night you may choose to hide with another person. You cannot be the target of a nightkill when you do this. However, if you hide with mafia or a werewolf, you die. Also, if the person you hide with is the target of a nightkill, they kill you too.

You win when all mafia and werewolves are dead, and at least one pro-town player is still alive.

I don't think that works, MBL. If the Miriam hid with you, and you were not scum, and you were not nightkilled, then the Miriam should have been nightkill proof. If he hid with a good guy who didn't die, he wouldn't have died. Either you're scum, or else he forgot to send his choice in, or changed his mind and hid with someone else/hid with no one after saying he was going to hide with you. Which would be an incredibly stupid thing for him to do, so soon after saying he was going to hide with you.

My best guess is that you're the scum, you saw that he was going to target you, and so you chose not to kill in the hopes that you wouldn't look as bad that way.

vote:MBL

Let's not finish him off until we hear from the cop, just in case something wierd happened, but I think we've just won.

[MrBuddyLee]

I'm guessing he pulled a fast one, because I'm not scum.

It doesn't really matter though, cause two lynches and we're good. Hopefully the cop caught the last scum and I can survive to endgame.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

I am very bamboozled by the fact that the scum didn't kill me, at least that makes the town's job a lot easier.

I got a guilty on rosso carne, and Yos just caught MBL, so I think our 2 scum left are Rosso and MBL. Let's lynch Rosso first since I'm sure about it.

Vote: Rosso Carne

[ShadowLurker]

Rosso + MBL obviously,

Vote: Rosso

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Vote: Rosso

[MrBuddyLee]

Nope, it's not me. I've been set up.

vote: Yosarian

for even thinking such a thing.

[Yosarian2]

Woo! We win.

unvote

,

vote:Rosso

[ShadowLurker]

Nope, it's not me. I've been set up.

vote: Yosarian

for even thinking such a thing.

Please explain any possibility of you being set-up.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Nope, it's not me. I've been set up.

vote: Yosarian

for even thinking such a thing.

I announced a long time ago that I had an innocent on Yos.

MBL = scum, case closed

[ShadowLurker]

Also MBL, do you agree Rosso is scum?

What do you think about the innocent investigation on Yosarin2?

If you agree Rosso is scum, then why don't you help town lynch him like most of the town is doing right now even though they think you're scum?

[MrBuddyLee]

I'm not saying anything til I get a lawyer.

[ShadowLurker]

I'm not saying anything til I get a lawyer.

Somehow, I felt the style of my questions in the real life world while talking to a counterpart of you would get that same response as well.

[Kelly Chen]

The Thirty-Ninth Vote Count

4 - Rosso Carne (Machiavellian-Mafia, Shadowlurker, Cogito Ergo Sum, Yosarian2)
1 - Yosarian2 (MrBuddyLee)

not voting: HezLucky, Primate, Rosso Carne, creampuffeater

With 9 alive it is 5 to lynch!

[MrBuddyLee]

Rosso's lynched, Hez is offed for his impudence, and town lynches MrBuddyLee. I believe the game is over, congrats town.

[ShadowLurker]

MBL: Vote Rosso please.

Mod:

Prod on Rosso, he needs to vote himself.

[creampuffeater]

VOTE ROSSO

LYNCH

[ShadowLurker]

TY CPE

[Kelly Chen]

LYNCH

You guys all go to Rosso's house, bust the door down, and bury him and his bed under heavy rocks. He perishes under the weight, never knowing what hit him.

Rosso Carne -

Mafia

- Lynched day 5

You notice a lot of futuristic stuff lying about. A TV, a space heater. A PISTOL.

"Shit," says the one known as "Mr. Buddy Lee." "Our mission is now an inevitable failure!"

He whips out a cell phone, presses a button, and with a buzzing noise disappears back into the future! His voice echoes backwards through time, heavily distorted: "I'll be back Egypt! The mafia will destroy you someday!"

MrBuddyLee -

Mafia

- Returned to the future day 5

With a little help from Moses, Aaron, Miriam, Pharaoh, and also a cop sent from the future, Ancient Egypt managed to survive a simultaneous assault by werewolves and mafia from the future. Therefore:

TOWN WINS!

Moves coming up.

[Kelly Chen]

Day 1

Twomz lynched (Townie)

Night 1

Machiavellian-Mafia investigates Vaughn (Mafia)
HezLucky investigates Yosarian2 (Not Werewolf)
vikingfan does not hide
Mafia kill Mastermind of Sin (Werewolf)
Werewolves kill Glork (Townie)

Day 2

Thok strikes down three word name (Werewolf)
Vaughn lynched (Mafia)

Night 2

Machiavellian-Mafia investigates Yosarian2 (Not Mafia)
HezLucky investigates vikingfan (Not Werewolf)
vikingfan does not hide
Mafia kill Thoth (Werewolf)
Werewolves kill BabyJesus (Townie)

Day 3

Thok strikes down klebian (Werewolf)
ChannelDelibird lynched (Townie)

Night 3

Machiavellian-Mafia investigates Cogito Ergo Sum (Not Mafia)
HezLucky investigates armlx (Not Werewolf)
vikingfan does not hide
Mafia kill Thok (Moses)

Day 4

Mariyta lynched (Mafia)
creampuffeater grants the double lynch
kirbyphreak lynched (Townie)

Night 4

Machiavellian-Mafia investigates Rosso Carne (Mafia)
HezLucky investigates no one
vikingfan hides with MrBuddyLee (Mafia) and dies
Mafia kill vikingfan (Miriam)

Day 5

Rosso Carne lynched (Mafia)
MrBuddyLee concedes for Mafia


I will come up with commentary later, as I think of it.

Thanks for playing everybody! I think it was reasonably well played by all sides, although the wolves didn't have much of a chance as it happened...

[Thok]

Smites MBL from beyond the grave.

I'd like to hear the Mafia's/Werewolves reasonings for the various kills. I was surprised I wasn't killed night 2 and also that I was killed Night 3.

@Yos-apologies. I thought your attack on armlx suggested that you were the cop. Once it seemed like you weren't the cop, I thought you were scum trying to get the Moses to waste a kill on a townie.

I'll have more Moses commentary in a bit.

[Kelly Chen]

Alright, some comments.

I was disappointed that the mafia didn't realize MM was the cop after the Vaughn lynch. With all three mafia voting for Vaughn I expected that they realized there was role info behind it.

The elimination of the wolves without a single one of them being lynched... was disappointing.

The CPE confusion was partly/largely my fault. I for some reason interpreted CPE to be saying (when he claimed) that the town should lynch him, but he would use the double lynch so that the town could lynch someone else after him. Although it wasn't very clear, I did not intend that the Pharaoh should be able to use his ability even when dead. I tried to "correct" this "misunderstanding" and evidently created confusion.

I was a bit disappointed that vikingfan didn't hide more aggressively. But the role did prove useful at the end.

I would say MVP was Machiavellian-Mafia. Basically all of his investigations proved useful.

Thok is another MVP possibility, but I do think Thok received some guidance from what the town was likely going to do anyway.

In terms of design: I greatly underestimated the power of a dayvig, even with the limitation I gave it. Moses was FAR more powerful than Pharaoh. I also should have made scum less vulnerable to each other, either through some unnk or protection mechanism, or by simply having more scum.

I'm puzzled about the participation level in this game... Day 4 was pretty awful. I don't know what lessons I can take from it. At least the replacement situation did not become dire.

Scum have yet to win a Kelly game...

[ShadowLurker]

Questions:

Did MoS do the "I bet the wagon has at least 3 scum" purposely? As that was what made me upgrade my suspicions of TWN and Klebian from notes to deserving of a vote.

What was the rationale behind the mafia kills?

Even now reading the Yosarin2 and CES argument, I still have a hard time believing that they initiated it themselves and were both town. Any rationale on that?

The participation in this game was puzzling indeed. While it didn't seem people were lurking and constantly posting, I kept feeling like nothing was getting accomplished even with obvious targets.

A dayvig can basically be used to grant the town a double lynch.

Kelly: Would you reuse the idea of viking's role in future games?

I think the werewolves wouldn't been pretty much lynched anyway (thok's daykills at least) regardless of whether Thok killed them or not as they were pretty obvious werewolves.

I am still shocked CPE was not mafia.