In post 761, PeregrineV wrote:Just so I fully understand, not only do I go from the 2nd strongest town read, but now I'm scum, and you are asking your 3-4 scum reads to vote for me?
Pretty much yes.
In post 761, PeregrineV wrote:So, if you can, walk me through those pulse-pounding five days from Post 601 to Post 757. Include not only my scummy activity, but the town activity that your 4 scumreads provided.
Your activity over those five days can be summarized with one word. None. This despite the fact that you have been around and posting in other games. That is the exact same reason I read you as scum in Wizards at the Sorcerers' Den, and tried to kill you twice, succeeding the second time. You were scum of course, and I was a serial killer, going for a joint win with town.
The reason I initially read you as town was because I liked your early posts,
#284 and
#295 in particular. I have played with you before with you as town and as scum, and the research I did on your play during last game indicated you typically lurk as scum. This belief of mine was only reinforced when I made the correct call based on it. Therefore I read you as town while you were active and seemed to be scumhunting, and the read was made stronger since I agreed with the focus on your random vote being strange. But the way you vanished off the face of the Earth changed all that.
As for what my suspects have done to appear more town, the answer is nothing much. The reasons I considered them suspicious are still there. I believe that kanye has been supremely unhelpful and apathetic, even to his own lynch, and the same applies to Empking. But, that does not mean I would be right about them, I could be wrong about one, or both. In fact, the way they both voted you without so much as blinking makes me think I was probably wrong, provided I'm right about you being scum. It had occurred to me that Empking could be scum with you, and the way he linked me to you could be distancing with the built in security that once I flip, he would not have reason to push you further. That was a theory mind you, the way he voted you makes me think it unlikely.
In post 772, PeregrineV wrote: In post 765, Furcolow wrote:vote: peregrinev
feysal, i haven't ever really thought you were scum, i was voting you and calling you scum because you are an asshole to me
I would like you to point out where I was being an asshole to you, since you're now voting me.
That comment was not directed at you, I'm sure it was for me.
In post 767, Wraith wrote:Oh wow, so a bunch of people are going to jump onto a completely random lurkerwagon started by FEYSAL who was joined by SPYREX and KANYE?
Fail.
Lurkerwagon, fair enough. Random, no. I believe that PeregrineV lurking is indicative of him being scum, and I can point to a past game where this belief resulted in me correctly vigging him. I'm also not concerned about who is with me on the wagon. It will be more information somewhere down the line.
In post 770, Empking wrote:You quoted my reads to show Fey is inconsistent? Bad distancing.
The inconsistency is real though. Being consistent is fine, but one should not be afraid to leave consistency by the wayside when observing something new.
My reason is that I recognize I could be wrong about kanye, and I'm likely to be, if my suspicion of PeregrineV is correct.
In post 775, Will-o-wisp wrote:The speed with which a wagon on Peregrine formed and Kanye's dissolved makes me think a couple of possibilities. I haven't really been able to discuss with my partner as she has been MIA with schoolwork (come back Mist
), but I am not liking this Peregrine wagon at all.
1) Scum are white knighting Kanye and thus want to lynch a for a flip with less information acquisition
2) Scum are looking for a place to park their votes so that they do not appear scummy voting for Kanye or Feysal at the moment and thus Peregrine is a better option
3) Scum are pushing a lynch on Peregrine because Kanye is a potentially powerful scum role
1) I hardly think that this wagon would result in less information than if it had not happened at all. The fact that it became a speedwagon, and the players who joined it, can both prove significant later. What I find very interesting right now is that Andrius was trying to start a wagon on yourself, and despite his talk of a voting bloc, it fizzled. I'm suspected by rather more people than Andrius is, and yet I'm having much more success. That surprises me, and I'm curious about which invisible string I pulled to make it happen. That, I'm sure, will be of interest later.
2) Dekes already asked why, and you answered, but...
In post 778, Will-o-wisp wrote:Speed wagoning Pere would seem less scummy because a lot of people are already doing it,
so choosing which person who speed wagoned looks most scummy based on the fact of the speed wagon would be a hard feat to accomplish
. It would be a safe vote because he is inactive and it seems to be the "viable alternative" to the other two wagons.
Could you rephrase the underlined part? No matter how many times I read it, I can't understand what you're trying to say.
3) If they wanted to save kanye, why a third wagon? If it was kanye, all the scum would have to do is pile on me like Andrius has been asking people to.
