Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

[Ythan]

Are you concerned that someone else will hammer if you place your vote? I suppose he might.

[Ythan]

It was Startransmission, if you're wondering.

[Ythan]

Who wants to be the last vote we need if you count Riddick?

[Ythan]

Unnecessary. We've got enough on him without bussing.

[Ythan]

You can make mandates like that when you contribute to the thread, and even then nobody will listen if they're so ridiculous.

[Ythan]

It was Startransmission, if you're wondering.

[Ythan]

Go go go!

[Ythan]

To everyone not voting Rike: If we no lynch then every one of you will die before anyone on the wagon.

[Ythan]

To everyone not voting Rike: If we no lynch then every one of you will die before anyone on the wagon.

This alone put me off reading back for a Rike case. Just sayin'.

I will take a look later tonight, if I think it's hammer-worthy, then I'll do so.

How wonderful for you that you have an excuse to postpone contribution.

[Ythan]

Only one thing has changed and I can't use it.

[Ythan]

The segments and structure of his paraphrase do not match up satisfactorily with mine.

[Ythan]

Then who are we killing.

[Ythan]

All acceptable.

unvote

[Ythan]

scribe is the worst of those 3 IMO.

Don't make buddying scummy players your primary contribution.

[Ythan]

Pman will be on my list tomorrow because all he does is lurk, ride coattails, and nothing good ever.

[Ythan]

I would lynch the fuck out of Fly btw. And it's vig/sk/mafia.

[Ythan]

Selective or tunnel?

[Ythan]

Face meet palm.

[Ythan]

Vigbait.

[Ythan]

Half of this game is scum and it's getting hard to tell which are actually mafia.

[Ythan]

VI is village idiot. Should be self-explanatory from there. Also act like you're getting something done when you actually get something done.

[Ythan]

You didn't provide anything at all. You said "When I'm mod I do this," and I thought "Yawn next." What parts of that post do you consider meaningful?

[Ythan]

If anyone has a daykill please use it on pman right now.

[Ythan]

Different in what respect? That's not good stuff and is meaningless to me. And if you don't understand it's because you haven't read the whole thread perhaps. Next time read the game, new VI.

[Ythan]

Because you didn't do the same thing at all. You posted some fluffy vague nonsense.

[Ythan]

But a lot of players are bad.

1 low
2 fly
3 jb
4 nacho
5 pman
6 ds

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (5) = 5

[Ythan]

Alright, the first part isn't vague or fluffy at all. So, is it correct or incorrect? The second part should be pretty damn obvious if we've receieved the same role PM. What's the key word in the second sentence?

As for the rest, I guess you just aren't very good at riddles.

BTW: Can we kiss and makeup and just kill dragonfly? He's a wagon I can get behind...

First of all if you're asking for a word from a sentence in the role PM don't do that. Second your attempt to pass yourself off as clear is incorrect. Third it's vague to the point that it loses meaningfulness and becomes fluff. Fourth

vote Dragonfly13

[Ythan]

scum would not be as scummy as me.

Posts like this make my head hurt. Like Lowell's vote on Riken...

it makes sense if you are frustrated, bored town.

Or lynched.

[Ythan]

I would really prefer dead, by any means.

[Ythan]

Smilies are scummy.

[Ythan]

Two smilies. Obvscum.

[Ythan]

GOOD LORD.

[Ythan]

Anyway

it's time to consolidate on Fly.

[Ythan]

Keep in mind that really poor bussing won't help anyone.

[Ythan]

Everyone who appears to be online has voted Fly.

[Ythan]

Good luck finding one of those.

[Ythan]

Don't feel bad about lynching players that need to be lynched. You can't know their alignment and if it's a good lynch based on what you do know then you did the right thing.

[Ythan]

Mod can we have two vigs plz.

[Ythan]

You are Ythan, a$$hole enabler for a$$hole Nechomamma8

[Ythan]

Are you sure we can't kill Lowell he is the worst ever.

[Ythan]

Will anyone lynch Lowell with me?

[Ythan]

You know what, no. Lowell will die tonight. Vig for the love of god kill Lowell.

[Ythan]

Pman you're worse than Lowell.

[Ythan]

You are both terrible players who contribute nothing to the thread and you'll both be dead within the next night/day cycle.

[Ythan]

Lowell is beyond any hope of redemption. Pman if you can some how become at the very least neutral on the pro-/anti-town scale then I'm sure someone else will be a better lynch or kill.

[Ythan]

now now, it's not my fault the day has lasted over a week too long. Once I actually need to reevaluate suspects, I will be more townish,

Irrelevant. It's your fault you're a terrible town player.

[Ythan]

No I think you just said some stupid scummy shit and you're trying to incriminate someone else for pointing it out.

[Ythan]

post restrict pman5595

[Ythan]

It worked!

[Ythan]

Looks like seven.

[Ythan]

Deadline?

[Ythan]

Nevermind.

[Ythan]

Hammer Fly or work another angle. Deadline.

[Ythan]

More like WRP_Beaten.

[Ythan]

Provided there are no grand revelations before tomorrow I expect that D4 will be much quicker.

[Ythan]

Vig should the whole thing.

[Ythan]

Pman might be trying to get viged.

[Ythan]

That's a normal thing to do with a bad anti-town player. What you're doing is either scummy or not playing to your wincon.

[Ythan]

Pman should be lynched if he's trying to get viged. I say he's not clever enough for that to be WIFOM.

[Ythan]

Mods don't typically honor players' blacklists do they.

[Ythan]

Maybe he has a post restriction where he's not allowed to say anything intelligent, or that makes him just babble like a parrot.

[Ythan]

Notice how I'm nice to players who act like they what site they're on.

[Ythan]

Open already?

[Ythan]

Thanks for joining, Di.

vote Lowell

[Ythan]

Ythan, spammin' already.

Not spam, though your response might be if it weren't accompanied by the following question. However

Una pregunta to all you peeps: What was the wagon dynamic OUTSIDE of the lynchin this game (i.e. which wagons built up and didn't result in a LYNCH).
Thanks!
(Yes, I'm too lazy to ISO neto and find out for myself etc. etc.)

This is not a good start. I could understand not isoing me or not reading the whole thread even,

maybe

, at this point, but this is not a good start.

[Ythan]

You know a great way to get it?

[Ythan]

Shaping up to be the second anti-town player in a two-player slot.

[Ythan]

Everyone please vote either Lowell or Diacria. I don't care which.

[Ythan]

I'd rather be on a wagon with Unsight than pman. He's also an acceptable lynch maybe but for now

unvote vote Diacria

[Ythan]

You need to die because at least the other scummy players are familiar with the thread.

[Ythan]

Did you rearrange the words in my post? Also thanks for letting me know 109 was over. Win for me.

[Ythan]

The reason I'm voting you now instead of Lowell is that you won't read anything for yourself. Want my vote off you, figure Lowell out yourself.

[Ythan]

Mod, could we at least get some MO flavor on the kills?

[Ythan]

Diacria, you're lazy.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

[Ythan]

I still think the shooting v poisoning flavor is relevant, so it'd help.

[Ythan]

I think we've had overlapping kills.

[Ythan]

Now that's an odd night.

[Ythan]

Your new avatar is growing on me. Also I find it suspicious that you're adamantly anti-flavor-talk. Are you a poisoner SK?

[Ythan]

I think there's a fairly good possibility we have a PSK and that Neto is just holding back the flavor because of some unintended consequences from the night before.

[Ythan]

Something occurred to me. Wiki version of poisoner seems to indicate that he can poison in addition to the mafia's normal kill. So it could just be that.

[Ythan]

Ythan: Flavor analysis is stupid and never works. Neto's last post already practically confirms that.

Reasoning is tech.

[Ythan]

1, I'm analysing NK MOs, which is a valid part of knowing what's going on when there are multiple kills a night. 2, stuff about the mod, while true, assume I'm lazy too and don't fill your posts with fluff just to bridge the cause-effect gap. 3, try to make a point based on something in this game.

[Ythan]

I'll just say yes, and save doing something you tell me to for when you RTFT. Now respond to the rest, maybe.

[Ythan]

I don't think he would have added the rule if he didn't mean it. Maybe no poisoner then, but still an SK for sure.

[Ythan]

EBWOP, in fact if there's no possibly-mafia-poisoner then it's almost certainly an SK.

[Ythan]

Another EBWOP forget I ever said it might be a mafia poisoner. That doesn't make any sense with N2.

Also I just noticed the title still says N3.

[Ythan]

When have you ever been anything about anything? We're doing alright without you contributing to the thread so far, I think we can carry on.

[Ythan]

It doesn't matter if he's right. All he is doing is complaining, and I suppose his suggestion is that we let someone else pick? Someone other than the majority?

[Ythan]

It'll just be more WIFOM when he flips scum.

[Ythan]

RTFT plz.

[Ythan]

Is anyone noticing a bit of selectivity?

[Ythan]

The JB kill makes me think SK more than VIG, for whatever reason, but it's possible there's both and they both attacked him.

For whatever reason? I'd like to hear what that reason is.

I was asked via PM if any anti-town factions have been supplied with a vanilla townsperson PM. All anti-town factions have been provided with this PM.

From the beginning?

[Ythan]

Not trying to second-guess you, just want to make sure I've got you straight.

[Ythan]

If you're not going to provide any reasoning then don't even bother posting.

[Ythan]

blah blah fluff fluff

[Ythan]

You're cont contributing anything to the thread at all. You're just trying to appear active by throwing out reads with zero content.

[Ythan]

Nacho is town for Raywiki's obv town play. Especially the last few in his ISO. And my gut feels happy about Nacho this time around.

Okay, hammer please.

[Ythan]

Contribute something to the thread, or at the very least quit bitching and posting nothing but fluff, or die.

[Ythan]

I only ask this for clarification of a statement you just asked. If it's not an acceptable question please just disregard. When you say we can assume that the scum had the PM at that time do you mean safely assume or just that it is possible to assume, regardless of the truth?

[Ythan]

Thanks.

[Ythan]

Context?

[Ythan]

That's not a contribution to the thread, you know.

[Ythan]

Saying I told you so instead of being a part of the solution is, in my experience, a solid form of active lurking.

[Ythan]

Now in the form of content.

[Ythan]

Ythan, if you believe that, then grow a pair and vote for it.

Vote: Rikenslope

I agree with Lowell.

I forgot that in Mafia all reads must be discounted in favor of the most recent post. My mistake.

[Ythan]

Lowell Rike Diacria. Second tier, Nacho and Pman.

[Ythan]

I like a Diacria lynch.

[Ythan]

He still hasn't done anything expect throw out names. Lynch plz.

[Ythan]

Hi Diacria.

Edited at the request of all parties. -Netopalis

[Ythan]

If you're going to delete that post you can go ahead and redact his name out of mine.

[Ythan]

I almost want to lynch Ythan because of how annoying that damn avatar is.

I'm waiting for Diacria to get into the good stuff (namely, cases).

Ythan needs to vote Rikenslope.

He still hasn't done anything expect throw out names. Lynch plz.

Isn't that what you've been doing...?

Don't tell me you haven't read the thread either.

[Ythan]

Well there's the difference, isn't it? We did plenty of talking yesterday and determined that there was a good pool of lynches, some of whom are still alive. We just need to pick another one.

[Ythan]

I don't remember anything on page 114, don't worry.

[Ythan]

I still find your predecessor scummy enough and am not happy with your lack of shared content behind your reads.

[Ythan]

If it's not clear, nothing relevant to the game happened up at the top of the page.

[Ythan]

Pman is town because he's scummy? Or do you not consider those scum tells?

[Ythan]

Those are two top tier scummies for me.

[Ythan]

Fuck I wanted to run a Supreme Court-themed game.

[Ythan]

I said I think we have a nightly mafia kill, vig kill, and sk kill.

[Ythan]

Was anyone inspired by any of the last three flips to look up anything new?

[Ythan]

Thirded.

[Ythan]

I remember the answer from last time, and any sense then would have jumped out at me.

[Ythan]

I've been in one other and I died pretty early on.

[Ythan]

Meaning you don't let what happens during the day affect your read. Which is worse than tunneling. I could live with a pman lynch.

[Ythan]

LAL?

[Ythan]

And who's at the end of your tunnel today?

[Ythan]

Did you even bother to read his reasoning against you? I guess you did since you reference it in sentence one, but you seem to have forgotten it by the next one.

[Ythan]

Says Nacho the lurker.

[Ythan]

You are indeed less scummy.

[Ythan]

Prod avoidance should be a new policy lynch target.

[Ythan]

That's because we don't need to sort anything else out. Just pick a lynch again.

[Ythan]

Both are fine by me. Also it was Startransmission.

[Ythan]

He'll still be scummy tomorrow. Both need to die, just pick.

[Ythan]

He never trusts scumreads. Um, does that explanation itself not just scream suspicion right in everyone's ears?

[Ythan]

By PoE do you mean process of elimination, meaning that you look for town until a certain number of people are left, the number that you guess is how many scum there are? Or that you just go along with any wagon not on someone you've determined is town?

[Ythan]

You know that thing some people nominated you for? That playstyle does not fit the nominations you've received.

[Ythan]

Did you forget that I was the one who saw your account slip earlier?

[Ythan]

Trying to brush off your scummy behavior and taking every opportunity to try to shift attention rather than accounting for your actions fully is going to get you a short rope and a long drop.

[Ythan]

I don't buy it.

[Ythan]

There are plenty of reasons to make an alt. Like not wanting anyone to notice how inconsistent your meta is.

[Ythan]

You've been saying you made the alt because you want to do something and don't want your meta involved.

[Ythan]

He says that focusing on him is a distraction and he wants to go back to focusing on someone else which is somehow more constructive.

[Ythan]

No, I'm putting some pressure on you and you're the one giving out contradictory information regarding your alt.

[Ythan]

Pman please get modkilled. Flipping is the only thing you will ever contribute to this game.

[Ythan]

And the best thing you can do with that is follow someone else's wagon.

[Ythan]

That's a good point. There are role-based explanations other than being scum buddies, though, and Riddick doesn't otherwise seem scummy to me. Especially compared to other players.

[Ythan]

Who is everyone cool with killing?

[Ythan]

I like Rike and Low for the noose, Nacho is definitely below them.

[Ythan]

Pman you don't get to be a part of our deliberations. Go size your neck for a noose please.

[Ythan]

Riddick is saying that if he was scum he wouldn't be acting so scummy. Dia says "Yeah me too."

[Ythan]

LA3rd Persons.

[Ythan]

On the bright side we're narrowing down suspects day and night and are 2/3 on NKs against scum, regardless of who made them.

[Ythan]

While I could put Rike at -1, I don't like the lineup of his wagon.

[Ythan]

But you're bad, Nacho is questionable, and Lowell is terrible.

[Ythan]

Rikenslope is

maybe

as bad as Lowell and about even with Diacria, who has an equally large wagon full of people much less questionable than those with you.

[Ythan]

Please die in a far kthx.

[Ythan]

In a far I said. I don't care if that doesn't make sense.

[Ythan]

I think I need to look more carefully because I just ctrl+f'd your iso for Diacria and the only instance I found was your last post.

[Ythan]

He's right though.

[Ythan]

Lowell put content in your posts.

[Ythan]

Do I need to roll again for today's lynch?

[Ythan]

Do you need me to list my reasons?

[Ythan]

I'm in grieving. Thanks jerk.

[Ythan]

The other wagon has Lowell, Nachomama8, and pman5595 on board. I don't want to be a part of that.

[Ythan]

There are two guys at L-2. One of them is going to be lynched today, and the other one will be lynched tomorrow if he even survives that long. No new analysis is going on.

Original Roll String: 1d2

1 2-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

1 Rikenslope
2 Diacria

[Ythan]

Sorry, dice say Dia.

[Ythan]

Diacria is not scum. He is town, slightly misguided, but still clearly town.

Why do you bother posting.

[Ythan]

I will set this onto Unsight's shoulders...

Explain.

[Ythan]

I am past the point of paying attention.

[Ythan]

Ok pman.

[Ythan]

Startransmission.

[Ythan]

Night folks.

[Ythan]

I feel that Neto is attempting to curtail flavor discussion.

[Ythan]

Something about a cattle prod and the Kool-Aid Man.

[Ythan]

If pman says so then I guess we should stop lynching vanillas.

[Ythan]

Assuming that there is an SK, how likely is it that the mafia faction still has two members?

[Ythan]

Aight dudes, it's been fun. Go team.

Aight dudes, it's been fun. Go team.

Playing town.

[Ythan]

Crypto and Dr. Cyanide.

[Ythan]

I have never really understood what is to be gained from massclaims in normal closed games.

[Ythan]

I have an idea. Will the odd one please identify him- or herself? If I know you're odd and you know your role, we should be able to confirm each other.

[Ythan]

MoleStargazer
Kison
Nachomama8
Rikenslope
Riddick
Unsight
Konowa

Everyone who has not posted since my last post. Hoping to whittle this down quickly.

[Ythan]

MoleStargazer

Kison
Nachomama8
Rikenslope
Riddick
Unsight
Konowa

[Ythan]

MoleStargazer

Kison
Nachomama8
Rikenslope

Riddick

Unsight
Konowa

[Ythan]

Derp.

[Ythan]

That's a no on your part?

[Ythan]

MoleStargazer

Kison
Nachomama8
Rikenslope

Riddick

Unsight

Konowa

[Ythan]

MoleStargazer

Kison
Nachomama8

Rikenslope

Riddick

Unsight

Konowa

I'll also check for reactions to the other times I've mentioned this.

[Ythan]

Nacho or Konowa then.

[Ythan]

You lot work that out. I'm doing my half, I can't decide whether the rest of you should too.

[Ythan]

Konowa plz post.

[Ythan]

He hasn't posted since about nine days ago.

[Ythan]

Seems like it's been longer than that. Lurkers will do that.

[Ythan]

I have no problem waiting. If he posts he'll answer, if not his replacement will. And we've got plenty of time iirc let me go check actually.

[Ythan]

Since Konowa might not be posting, and you've already outed yourself as being something other than your everyday VT, do you care to explain what this 'odd' thing is all about, Ythan?

I specifically said that he needs to confirm his half. To insure that he's not scum fakeclaiming. So what are you trying to do here.

If it comes down to it, I wouldn't against a mass claim, but I'd rather it didn't come to that.

Why?

The case on Rik, so strong yesterday, also appears to have stopped. In an attempt to get it moving again (and also to help my lazy ass out), could someone link me to / summarise the case on Rik so I can decide if it's worth my vote?

Do the work for you?

The segments and structure of his paraphrase do not match up satisfactorily with mine.

this? you're not a vanilla so why would they?

This is why I said the segments and structure. They're not the same PM but if they had been structured similarly it would have been a good indicator that he was telling the truth.

[Ythan]

I can't go into detail regarding why I need to see his claim. That would ruin making him confirm the role. But I can explain my reservations once we clear it up.

[Ythan]

I don't understand the question. Are you asking why Konowa would lie? If so, then again I'll have to ask for your patience until he is able to respond.

[Ythan]

At this point, I don't think so.

[Ythan]

Yay.

[Ythan]

I'd really like to see someone who will read the game, especially coming into such an important spot, but it is a lot to read and I can't even be iso'd anymore.

[Ythan]

I have an idea. Will the odd one please identify him- or herself? If I know you're odd and you know your role, we should be able to confirm each other.