Sims 3 Mafia - Endgame!

[Maruchan]

The above can all be read about in both Dead&Scum QTs if you wish. was interesting.

[chunkykev]

I've only skimmed through the roles, but I await Samantha finally telling me I was right to be wary of a trait claim

If we'd traitclaimed as early as she had wanted then the SK could have killed his targets much quicker (as he would have known who they were) and won the game.

[Maruchan]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Plum]

Maru and I chose exactly the same traits WTH?

[Tragedy]

...Easy town win?
..Derp.

[Chevre]

I'm sorry I really stunk up this game.

animorpherv1 you did an awesome job and it was really enjoyable, but I am forever going to question your xRECKONERx modkill (that didn't happen). I love xRECKONERx to pieces, but I don't think a mod should abide strictly by their rules.

[Uprising]

"The town, consisting of CSL, Chevre, mb53, Plum, DTMaster, tarsonisocelot, Thomith, Frost, iamausername, samantha97, Tragedy, xRECKONERx Applefarmer and chunkykev wins!"

Uhm, was I not town, or was I modkilled, or what... I'm a little confused here. Am I missing something?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fuck you SC. I could have won this game if you hadn't shot me.

Fucking SK shooting. I guess I was too town for my own good ;>.>

[Lady Lambdadelta]

(and while I say fuck you, I say it with love <3)

[Maruchan]

(she means it literally. )

[xRECKONERx]

#1) Extending an arbitrary win to Maruchan makes no sense. You posted the NIGHT ACTIONS in the QT, thereby outing a ton of town PRs, Maruchan saw it, fucked up by slipping in the thread, and somehow this earns him a win? No... in fact, Maruchan should've been force-replaced the instant he saw that list of actions. That was a terrible modding decision.

#2) Chevre is claiming I should've been modkilled for what was obviously RVS antics. I'm sorry, but no... that rule was put in place so that scum members who were going down couldn't claim their buddies out of rage, or fakeclaim buddies for WIFOM. It was not put in place to try and stop jovial, obvjoke behavior. Furthermore, the ONLY person who complained about it was FourseenCircumstances, the scumbag who I was tunneling so hard, if that tells you anything about the "severity" of the rule I broke.

#3) StrangerCoug wasn't a SK. His wincon (to kill all bookworms) existed in congruency with town's wincon. After all scum and the lyncher were dead, there was no need to continue the game. Had StrangerCoug come forward with his honest role, he could've either worked out an agreement with town to help him win, or town would've killed him on the spot. Continuing the game at that point meant this was no longer a mafia game, because there wasn't really any "scumhunting". SC was basically a mass lyncher with a kill.

I'm glad I performed well (and was right about bv310 because I was worried as shit after I died, I didn't think bv would be so obvious) but this game was pretty much a trainwreck, and ani, I love you buddy, but your actions post-game show that you really don't need to be modding anything for awhile.

[Chevre]

However, you still broke the stated rule. To be incredibly, bitteringly harsh, it's the town's own fault if its members are careless enough not to read the rules. Especially in a Theme Game.

[mb53]

Oh, its over.

[animorpherv1]

"The town, consisting of CSL, Chevre, mb53, Plum, DTMaster, tarsonisocelot, Thomith, Frost, iamausername, samantha97, Tragedy, xRECKONERx Applefarmer and chunkykev wins!"

Uhm, was I not town, or was I modkilled, or what... I'm a little confused here. Am I missing something?

I'm sorry, I forgot you. You win to <3.

[Tragedy]

"The town, consisting of CSL, Chevre, mb53, Plum, DTMaster, tarsonisocelot, Thomith, Frost, iamausername, samantha97, Tragedy, xRECKONERx Applefarmer and chunkykev wins!"

Uhm, was I not town, or was I modkilled, or what... I'm a little confused here. Am I missing something?

I'm sorry, I forgot you. You win to <3.

You're a monster. I think Uprising turned scum all of the sudden.
You bastard mod.

[xRECKONERx]

However, you still broke the stated rule. To be incredibly, bitteringly harsh, it's the town's own fault if its members are careless enough not to read the rules. Especially in a Theme Game.

well aren't you just a legalist
hey go do something with Survivor for fuck's sake
or declare it dead

[Faraday]

#2) Chevre is claiming I should've been modkilled for what was obviously RVS antics. I'm sorry, but no... that rule was put in place so that scum members who were going down couldn't claim their buddies out of rage, or fakeclaim buddies for WIFOM. It was not put in place to try and stop jovial, obvjoke behavior. Furthermore, the ONLY person who complained about it was FourseenCircumstances, the scumbag who I was tunneling so hard, if that tells you anything about the "severity" of the rule I broke.

yeah but your revieve literally confirmedconfirmed him as scum too it was kinda bad decisions all around >_>

[StrangerCoug]

I think animorpherv1 was right to give Maruchan a win since a mod error occured that helped his lynch. (SFRR comes to mind talking about this, but the person whose role I messed up won by normal means anyway.)

#3) StrangerCoug wasn't a SK. His wincon (to kill all bookworms) existed in congruency with town's wincon. After all scum and the lyncher were dead, there was no need to continue the game. Had StrangerCoug come forward with his honest role, he could've either worked out an agreement with town to help him win, or town would've killed him on the spot. Continuing the game at that point meant this was no longer a mafia game, because there wasn't really any "scumhunting". SC was basically a mass lyncher with a kill.

I wish that had occurred to me, and then I would have been in less trouble than I was during the end of Day 3 and all of Day 4.

You played well, town. I thought about nominating you regarding how quickly you got the Mafia. (With my help, but still, lynching Mafia every single day they're alive without fail deserves something.)

[Tragedy]

You played well, town. I thought about nominating you regarding how quickly you got the Mafia. (With my help, but still, lynching Mafia every single day they're alive without fail deserves something.)

In a case, I think it wouldn't be right to actually nominate Reck for this, to be honest.
Especially when he sort of broke the rule that was added last minute, then he was supposed to be mod killed, but then yeah.

[xRECKONERx]

I think animorpherv1 was right to give Maruchan a win since a mod error occured that helped his lynch. (SFRR comes to mind talking about this, but the person whose role I messed up won by normal means anyway.)

It may have "helped" but seriously, look at the game again. Maruchan was going down HARD, even before the watcher slip. The same way bv310 was going down hard before anything else. The mod shouldn't extend wins to scum who were pegged from the getgo just because he accidentally gave them a huge leg up.

You played well, town. I thought about nominating you regarding how quickly you got the Mafia. (With my help, but still, lynching Mafia every single day they're alive without fail deserves something.)

In a case, I think it wouldn't be right to actually nominate Reck for this, to be honest.
Especially when he sort of broke the rule that was added last minute, then he was supposed to be mod killed, but then yeah.

Are you going to continue that thought, or...?

So because I got modkilled on a technicality, but then unmodkilled, I don't deserve the recognition for this?
The fact the day didn't end on my modkill actually "confirmed" me as scum, not town, since town modkill supposedly ends the day.
And what about my modkill had anything to do with my reads or play this game?

[xRECKONERx]

yeah but your revieve literally confirmedconfirmed him as scum too it was kinda bad decisions all around >_>

not really
My revive meant ani was a derpmod, it meant nothing about FC's alignment, but he just fucking

imploded

after that and became CONFIRMEDscum instead of obvscum

[Maruchan]

^^^^^^^

[DTMaster]

1. I'm not happy that Maru had knowledge of all the PRS. He did what he did as mafia and used it to kill Frost so a force replace was needed there. Maru did what a normal person would do to win the game in that situation. I disagree with the extended win since the night actions were planned around the released information when Maru was alive. Also it colored my arguments since I based my Tarson case on the fact Maru had role information. If I lynched Tarson successfully on that it would have colored the game from the mod slip. That's bad. The slip affected both sides.

2. The modkill could have been handled better if you took the time to confirm the details. Don't act on suspicion alone next time.

3. Despite this I'm not happy with the win since mafia could have just obliterated the town PRs if they checked the QT. The massive implosions on Fourseen made me go meh. Maru handled it better since I was more convinced about the Reck sympathy at that time.

4. I disliked my own performance and basically deferred to Reck. :V My scumdar is on the fritz this game.

5. I was really aggravated by Sam's stubbornness. It's something I would avoid since it was clear to me at the end that it was tunnel vision. But if your position is challenged but you can confrm yourself then just confirm yourself. One night phase to gain a confirmed town is much better then a mislynch. Sigh.... You make your own self fulfilled prophecy when you refuse to cooperate with the town when you yell things like lynching you would be dumb and wasting night actions is dumb. Throwing yourself off the clIff reads like Fourseen.

6. More activity from other players D:. Including myself lol.

7. Overall competent scum should had have this in the bag. We shouldn't have won with a PR lockdown when the PRs were outed behind the scenes.

[DTMaster]

Reck also didn't break a rule. He wasn't serious claiming. Chevre if you were concerned about the rules Thomith should have been modkilled with Reck for claiming to be his buddy. But in context both players were responding in a joke when I fakedaykilled. Neither players weren't serious claiming this, so it wasn't breaking any rules. Hence why it got reversed. That and if Ani followed proper procedure he would have accidentally confirmed Reck's alignment. But he was lucky enough that he didn't end the day. I pointed that out via PMs and Facebook.

[DTMaster]

FYI if Maru was being honorable he would have replaced himself. In Nintendo Mafia one VT outed himself to me in PMs. I brought it to the mod and I force rePlaced myself when a VT outer himself to me when he broke the game rules. :p.