Mini 1739: Netherspite's SORM II [To Be Re-Rolled]

[ika]

I think TItus played well, she has a point that the wagon was driven by scum, but really it was Neutral Scum so its a bit different.

she didnt. she should knot that if there is a jester possiblity you run it though cus most times scum will also be on the wagon. i can esily link the old game where jester screwed over scum as well its not good at all

im just going to repaet it:

when you beocme a counterwagon to scum you should relaize that you are doing something wrong

[ika]

i also followed that game titus and im with them i ran scnarios in my head that disproves mass claim being optimal and its very easy to do so

[Titus]

I think TItus played well, she has a point that the wagon was driven by scum, but really it was Neutral Scum so its a bit different.

she didnt. she should knot that if there is a jester possiblity you run it though cus most times scum will also be on the wagon. i can esily link the old game where jester screwed over scum as well its not good at all

im just going to repaet it:

when you beocme a counterwagon to scum you should relaize that you are doing something wrong

The only thing I did wrong was disagree with people.

[ika]

its not disgareeing titus, its being wrong. you were wrong about it. thats the fact. shos was scum you were counterwagon.

theres nothign being disgareed about that thats the facts that are shown. its evidence on how bad it is you were being.

i mean i could link monkeys game where evidence kept chanign but you never looked back, its only furhter proof. people dont disgaree with you titus, your just worong about it. when you start seeing that then manybe you can improve on it.

[ika]

like when you have sevral people stating "this is not right" and they show you why its not right, it no longer disagreeing, its a matter of proven facts that what you are staign is not right

[Titus]

like when you have sevral people stating "this is not right" and they show you why its not right, it no longer disagreeing, its a matter of proven facts that what you are staign is not right

Several people can want to mislynch town and can be wrong. That's proven by a wagon on me in the first place. Because several scumfucks say shos isn't a jester doesn't make it proven.

[ika]

like when you have sevral people stating "this is not right" and they show you why its not right, it no longer disagreeing, its a matter of proven facts that what you are staign is not right

Several people can want to mislynch town and can be wrong. That's proven by a wagon on me in the first place. Because several scumfucks say shos isn't a jester doesn't make it proven.

Thats not what im talking about titus. im talking much more general based on what you think is right plays and whatnots

[Titus]

When town follows my optimal play, we win 90% percent. I cannot remember the last time town followed my optimal play for night actions and we lost.

[ika]

When town follows my optimal play, we win 90% percent. I cannot remember the last time town followed my optimal play for night actions and we lost.

But its not and its been proven not to be optimal by several people.

[ika]

I mean i can go back to monkeys game and how you wanted to lynch PV cus you didnt belive it even when thor showed evidence that he was town

[ika]

Also rob and other easily disproved you in C9++ alos on how your idea fails

[TellTaleHeart]

Unbelievable

[Titus]

I mean i can go back to monkeys game and how you wanted to lynch PV cus you didnt belive it even when thor showed evidence that he was town

I was wrong there but PV was right from his perspective.

[Titus]

Also rob and other easily disproved you in C9++ alos on how your idea fails

No. They proved town is overly attached to PRs.

[ika]

Also rob and other easily disproved you in C9++ alos on how your idea fails

No. They proved town is overly attached to PRs.

Titus you never even refuted his idea and i can do the same. its a roadmap for PR killing

even if all PR gots confirmed what happens when they all die? it doesnt work

[ika]

and rob proved that already and you dont have evidece to disprove it yet

[Titus]

Also rob and other easily disproved you in C9++ alos on how your idea fails

No. They proved town is overly attached to PRs.

Titus you never even refuted his idea and i can do the same. its a roadmap for PR killing

even if all PR gots confirmed what happens when they all die? it doesnt work

Scums are dead.

[Titus]

It's literally why mass claim is better in this setup too or in playing with elements. All the AME.

[ika]

It's literally why mass claim is better in this setup too or in playing with elements. All the AME.

ELEMNTS =/= C9++

those are two diffrent games titus

[ika]

no game are the same in the end

games like this are imbalalnced form get go, ballanced games (c9++) cant be broken by such

[Firebringer]

Its a little imbalanced but its manageable, if the scum team knows what they are doing they can beat it.
Especially if they control the day chat and the night actions of town.

[ika]

Its a little imbalanced but its manageable, if the scum team knows what they are doing they can beat it.
Especially if they control the day chat and the night actions of town.

like i said, the game is imballanced, its able to be broken the games tius brings up are not. i think element slightly is only is but not as mcuh as this. where C9++ is jsut fine and massclal breaks it into scum

[Titus]

Late massclaim is writing the scum a check. Hence why it should be done day 1 or when the setup is impossible to hide in.

[ika]

Late massclaim is writing the scum a check. Hence why it should be done day 1 or when the setup is impossible to hide in.

so you jsut makea roadmap for scum to kill? thats what you are saying now

[Titus]

If it guarantees a town win, yup.

Did the same thing in Playing with Elements as the Town Tracker.