Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[Glory and Mel]

Either way I'll happily give her the W because of that unless I can prove that everyone else is acting and the only one who isn't is her.

[Lunar Martian]

if she's a ninja my role shouldn't exist within the setup.

What is the point in Ninjas if not to fool trackers?

[Starcrossed]

ninja would be kinda useless if there is nothing for the ninja to fool lol

[Glory and Mel]

if she's a ninja my role shouldn't exist within the setup.

What is the point in Ninjas if not to fool trackers?

not the point I was making.
Generally the way mods like to design, they like to "counter" town and the way to counter a ninja is to not put action investigatives in the game.
Also generally you don't see people put in 1 random ninja just to counter the 1 random tracker in the game, there needs to be more action investigatives to justify it.

[Glory and Mel]

btw Lunar that advice is mostly for verus games you can't really apply it anywhere else. Verus game's are different due to a treestump deciding powers, the mod may go out of their way to try to counter those powers. It's a mentality that comes to these games that I feel like most people have.

[Lunar Martian]

Hmm OK, thanks!

[Glory and Mel]

like for example Pooky v FL scum had a supersaint and town had a lot of information and roles that just in general countered the scumteam.

Also like I don't think anyone would go into these games as the scum stump and be like "ya I want a ninja" and the setup contains just 1 random tracker

[Glory and Mel]

So ya I think FTC is fine I think?

[Xtoxm]

Am I not mechanically cleared?

you are but we are going to run out of non mech clears at some point if the game doesnt end, and with no flipped scum roles that mess with my results, sc clear is strong based on confirmed role, and ninja is unlikely given how restricted a tracker already is in this setup

[Glory and Mel]

FL what do you think I don't want to fuck something up because I suggested FTC lol

[Glory and Mel]

Ya I think killing xtoxm today then FTC is really solid and more solid then FTC today and kill xtoxm on D8.

[Glory and Mel]

also for NA I think I 100% need to be on Chara.
No one can tell Chara what their correct action should be because I need to use this opportunity to prove that I am in fact actually a tracker if I have no done so already.
I'm sure they can figure out what their correct action should be, they're a good player.

[Glory and Mel]

Chara should not say where they're going for the record.

[Xtoxm]

proving your role is quite meaningless, ftc until 5p gives you enough nights to scan everyone you havent (sc, lunar, chara) at which point you die if you have failed to guilty

[Xtoxm]

can hectic just no kill town into a forced elim to avoid stalemate end to dodge ftc

[Glory and Mel]

regardless I think its still correct for Chara to not claim their target.
We don't want me to accidentally track them and they end up visiting the person who just so happened to die, that's no good.
pedit: let me read Krazy's rules on how he handles stalemates like that

[Glory and Mel]

nothing on stalemates
tbh that should be in more moderator's rulesets I'm guilty of that as well.

[Flavor Leaf]

i miss ydrasse

[Glory and Mel]

so whats the plan?

[Flavor Leaf]

Spoiler:

this was funnier in my head

amazing. I held it out for you! we did it MT! we got you conf town

[Flavor Leaf]

yeah lets just wait for xtoxm, probably kill xtoxm today tbh

[Glory and Mel]

xtoxm confirmed lunar got their message

[Glory and Mel]

the question I'm asking is do we kill xtoxm today, and then FTC tomorrow, or FTC to D8, then kill xtoxm

[Glory and Mel]

also should I be playing around some mysterious double kill that could happen?
I'm trying to take into consideration that as well.

[Flavor Leaf]

Ydrasse, did you happen to receive anything last night?

this when it was posted is townie

also the way Ydrasse reacted to it indicates Town Chara, Ydrasse scum (the way Ydrasse acted like they received the poem when they DEFINITELY did not was amazing, by the way, so good)


We also made Ydrasse target Chara so they didnt choose to clear. Ydrasse almost faked a guilty on Chara that day, you can go back and look. I think Chara is town.

I also think it's probably just Lunar, but Xtoxm has a chance too.