Mafia 48: Himalayan Mafia - Game over!

[HezLucky]

I have nothing better.

It's Day One, as I said.

You shouldn't be worrying about my vote. It isn't a threat at the moment.

[DrippingGoofball]

[quote="HezLucky"]
b) I don't want to lynch all the good players; if they are all pro-town we are cooked. Let the good players on the town's side catch the good scum.
[quote]

Very, very true. We should not shoot ourselves in our collective foot by lynching the best. You forgot to mention, in your analysis, that we should nonetheless keep the "best" under close scrutiny. Is that an oversight? Did you not think of that?

On another note, The Cesspit is outstandingly non-commital. That really jumps up at me.

[TheCesspit]

I'm non-commital as I have nothing to commit on. I could stand here pointing fingers and shouting 'scum, scum' but that doesn't seem very fruitful. As I understand it, there's no power roles, so even the slightly dodgy tactic of causing bandwagon's to get a role-claim or two going doesn't seem worth while.

I've noted tat I think there's at least one Mafia among the 6 voters and DrippingGoofball herself.

I've also queried that some people are 'voting but will remove if the bandwagon grows'. Which I just don't understand, and still don't. JamesSparrow was one of those stating that.

So, as they appear on both the list of people that are voting for DG, and making an odd/scummy statement:

FoS: JamesSparrow

Hows that, bit more commitment.

Also, for what it's worth, I don't agree that the bandwagon on you is either all Mafia or all non-Mafia. Why do you theorise such? How would you know?

Cheers!

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, for what it's worth, I don't agree that the bandwagon on you is either all Mafia or all non-Mafia. Why do you theorise such? How would you know?

Either they're ganging up and manufacturing this wagon, or they're sitting back and laughing.

They'd be giving themselves away manufacturing a wagon this early. Don't forget that at least one of them has been chosen, and is not clueless.

Methinks they're splitting their sides with laughter.

Mind you, I wouldn't totally discount some scum being on the wagon, because they can't be faulted later to do what so many Townies are doing. It's a safe thing for them to do. It's a way to look commital and Townish at once, yes, you're right, some may jump at the opportunity.

I stand corrected.

[neongrey]

I've noted tat I think there's at least one Mafia among the 6 voters and DrippingGoofball herself.

There usually are, but that's not going to have too much relevance yet, until we have fewer than six people like that to deal with.

I've also queried that some people are 'voting but will remove if the bandwagon grows'. Which I just don't understand, and still don't. JamesSparrow was one of those stating that.

Pressure-votes, but they're trying to avoid a speedlynch, I expect.

[LoudmouthLee]

In a game like this (no power roles), we need to have lots of chatter. It's time for me to start yelling at players who have added nothing to the game itself. Post upcoming.

[broomhead]

well out of pure curiosity, has anyone played or know of a game with no power roles like this one? i'd like to read it, or hear about experience.

[TheCesspit]

I've also queried that some people are 'voting but will remove if the bandwagon grows'. Which I just don't understand, and still don't. JamesSparrow was one of those stating that.

Pressure-votes, but they're trying to avoid a speedlynch, I expect.

Which I can understand in role-based game. But not here. I'm not sure what pressure you can apply usefully. It looks slightly scummy and not very helpful to me.

I am willing to be corrected.

[LoudmouthLee]

*under the radar*

This is MoS's only contribution.

No vote, no contribution.. just the words under the radar.

This is why I have begin shivering whenever I see his name on the player list. I don't think it's scummy. I think it's stupid. I just wanted a place to vent.

[creampuffeater]

Broom, this game will be very ballenced, and with no power roles, there are no automatic scum catches (as in cop or watcher ect....) This leads the game into we need to catch the scum in discussion and cannot rely on roles. I dont know any games where to point you (first game like this, but I think I understand what will happen (I think I used to many comas ))

[LoudmouthLee]

5 year invitational. Was a scary, scary game.

[Mr. Flay]

I'm here, but I am going to be away from the computer at least the rest of today, if not most of the weekend. Will post something substantive when I get back.

[JamesSparrow]

Pressure-votes, but they're trying to avoid a speedlynch, I expect.

That is accurate, I wanted to show my stance, but make it clear that I wasn't going to be supporting a rash, speedy lynch. I saw that the bandwagon was already growing fast.

[Norinel]

Vote Count:

DrippingGoofball- 6 (Fritzler, Fuldu, Twomz, LoudMouthLee, JamesSparrow, creampuffeater)
HezLucky- 1 (DrippingGoofball)
LoudMouthLee- 1 (HezLucky)
RandomActs- 1 (Thoth)

Not voting (

3

12): broomhead, Dead Rikimaru, logicticus, Mastermind of Sin, Mini Neo, Mr. Flay, neongrey, RandomActs, TheCesspit, tidus_of_zanarkand, TSAGod, Yosarian2

11 to lynch.

[TheCesspit]

Pressure-votes, but they're trying to avoid a speedlynch, I expect.

That is accurate, I wanted to show my stance, but make it clear that I wasn't going to be supporting a rash, speedy lynch. I saw that the bandwagon was already growing fast.

I assume now it's stalled your happy to keep your stance that way?

Surely you can show your stance by posting, rather than voting?

[Fuldu]

well out of pure curiosity, has anyone played or know of a game with no power roles like this one? i'd like to read it, or hear about experience.

I was scum and won the second of the two minis this is based on, More Mountainous Mafia. On the other hand, between the two of us, LML and I ruined Day Two of the Five Year Invitational for town, with consequences through the rest of the game. The main difference between the two was that the Five Year, unlike this setup, wasn't an open setup. Things would have gone much differently in that game if we'd

known

that there were only townies.

Oh, and as long as you're fishing for experienced players,

FOS: broomhead

.

[JamesSparrow]

Surely you can show your stance by posting, rather than voting?

yes, but few could argue with the fact that votes speak louder, and more quickly than words.

[tidus_of_zanarkand]

Also TheCessPit seems very on the fence and making safe statements all the time. I will

unvote TheCessPit

because my original vote was very weak to begin with.

Ehh? You find Cesspit' to be "playing it safe" and then unvote him? Where's the logic in that? Also, what's magic about page 5 for lynching DG? We have until late April, if it comes to that...

I can unvote him because his actions are barely suspicious and only worthy of a

FoS: TheCessPit

for right now. I am suspicious of him and will be watching him but even if the majority minus one person thought it was a good idea and voted him right now I don't think he's done enough to be lynched. I hope that clears up my stance.

I also agree with LoudMouthLee in that Mastermind of Sin needs to have more quality or quantity in his posts. I find it comical that his only post of "under the radar" screams volumes to me and puts him on top of my radar

FoS: Mastermind of Sin

. We already have a little discussion going and I would hate to see things die out from lack of participation.

[HezLucky]

Note to self: Look at post 100 later when one of the two bolded people and/or tidus is lynched.

[LoudmouthLee]

Also TheCessPit seems very on the fence and making safe statements all the time. I will

unvote TheCessPit

because my original vote was very weak to begin with.

Ehh? You find Cesspit' to be "playing it safe" and then unvote him? Where's the logic in that? Also, what's magic about page 5 for lynching DG? We have until late April, if it comes to that...

I can unvote him because his actions are barely suspicious and only worthy of a

FoS: TheCessPit

for right now. I am suspicious of him and will be watching him but even if the majority minus one person thought it was a good idea and voted him right now I don't think he's done enough to be lynched. I hope that clears up my stance.

I also agree with LoudMouthLee in that Mastermind of Sin needs to have more quality or quantity in his posts. I find it comical that his only post of "under the radar" screams volumes to me and puts him on top of my radar

FoS: Mastermind of Sin

. We already have a little discussion going and I would hate to see things die out from lack of participation.

And now who's non-committal?

If I didn't like my DG vote so much, you'd be next.

[DrippingGoofball]

My head is big (I suffer from cyanomegaencephalon) but my brain is tiny.

I don't get HezLucky's logic. Can someone explain it to me as if I were a tiny infant drooling on his bib?

[Fuldu]

Hez is saying that tidus's post seems suspicious, but that it doesn't really mean anything until we know the alignment of one of those three people. I'd argue that on Day One of a game without power roles, that's a reason to try to start a bandwagon on one of those three people, probably the center, tidus. But I think it looks more like just a mediocre and somewhat newbish post rather than actual ties between the three of them, so I'm disinclined to help him out in that direction.

[LoudmouthLee]

Hez is saying that tidus's post seems suspicious, but that it doesn't really mean anything until we know the alignment of one of those three people. I'd argue that on Day One of a game without power roles, that's a reason to try to start a bandwagon on one of those three people, probably the center, tidus. But I think it looks more like just a mediocre and somewhat newbish post rather than actual ties between the three of them, so I'm disinclined to help him out in that direction.

So then, The DG wagon has pretty much stopped. This feel awfully similar to the 5 year game. I feel, since we have the time, we start a new bandwagon. My pick, although Tidus looks suspicious, is MoS. He sits here, cries about how great he is, and lurks. I dislike his play style immensely. However, when he's forced to post, he can give the town some well needed info. Let's give him a reason to come out and play. We can see if there's a connection between Tidus, MoS and Cesspit.

Unvote, but IGMEOY: DG and Vote: MoS

I urge everyone to do the same.

PS: I believe we have AT LEAST 1 scum in the group of Tidus, Cesspit, DG and MoS. If you don't agree, make me think otherwise. I still think DG made a booboo when she "semi-cleared" Fritzler, as stated in my pbpa, but since we stalled, I can wait.

[TheCesspit]

Hez is saying that tidus's post seems suspicious, but that it doesn't really mean anything until we know the alignment of one of those three people. I'd argue that on Day One of a game without power roles, that's a reason to try to start a bandwagon on one of those three people, probably the center, tidus. But I think it looks more like just a mediocre and somewhat newbish post rather than actual ties between the three of them, so I'm disinclined to help him out in that direction.

So then, The DG wagon has pretty much stopped. This feel awfully similar to the 5 year game. I feel, since we have the time, we start a new bandwagon. My pick, although Tidus looks suspicious, is MoS. He sits here, cries about how great he is, and lurks. I dislike his play style immensely. However, when he's forced to post, he can give the town some well needed info. Let's give him a reason to come out and play. We can see if there's a connection between Tidus, MoS and Cesspit.

Unvote, but IGMEOY: DG and Vote: MoS

I urge everyone to do the same.

PS: I believe we have AT LEAST 1 scum in the group of Tidus, Cesspit, DG and MoS. If you don't agree, make me think otherwise. I still think DG made a booboo when she "semi-cleared" Fritzler, as stated in my pbpa, but since we stalled, I can wait.

Okay, I've done something stupid to make people think I'm scum.

I am happy with JamesSparrow's explanation. I guess it's my shallow naviety there.

UnFoS: JamesSparrow

So following this idea of pressure voting, and because I need to give some sort of show of Pro-town behaviour:

Vote: MastermindOfSin

Silence isn't golden, as LML rightly says.

I've no idea why Tidus thinks I'm suspicious, aprt from being non-comittal, purely based on my previous experience of committing in later days has lost town games, and I'd hate it to be all my fault -again-.

[JamesSparrow]

I feel, since we have the time, we start a new bandwagon. My pick, although Tidus looks suspicious, is MoS. He sits here, cries about how great he is, and lurks. I dislike his play style immensely. However, when he's forced to post, he can give the town some well needed info. Let's give him a reason to come out and play. We can see if there's a connection between Tidus, MoS and Cesspit.

Unvote, but IGMEOY: DG and Vote: MoS

I urge everyone to do the same.

i agree with you, i think that by starting a bandwagon on MoS, we can hopefully get some more info out on the table. especially, information on anything that might be between those three. to continue with the pressure voting, i'll

unvote DG

vote Mastermind Of Sin