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[Tchill13]

Scum has dug their hole deep enough day 1. It doesn't matter they won't be able to avoid the repercussions day 2.

[Chickadee]

I really hope havo is scum because his play here is so terrible that if he’s town I have to blacklist him and I like havo

You always say this.

I don’t think I have played a game with you where you didn’t say “x is so bad I’ll have to blacklist them”

There ya go chickadee. Now how often is he wrong?

It's usually said about town.

[Chumba]

I really hope havo is scum because his play here is so terrible that if he’s town I have to blacklist him and I like havo

You always say this.

I don’t think I have played a game with you where you didn’t say “x is so bad I’ll have to blacklist them”

There ya go chickadee. Now how often is he wrong?

It's usually said about town.

just exactly how many games do you think we have played together?

cause from my memory we have played twice and one of those i didn't even push a lynch day 1.

[Havo]

@Havo then sell me on you being town, not on Chumba being scum.

Look at the attention I brought on myself by going after Ethos.

Look at me begging town to lynch either myself or Chumba ONLY today.

Those 2 things should convince most I’m not scum. Why on God’s earth would I bring that much attention to myself.

If I don’t get lynched I’m a damn good Vig candidate. If Ethos or ESP chumba were to flip town. There’s no way I survive.

Why would I do that as scum?

When I could easily play like Schadd or Nero?

[Chumba]

this talk about me being right or wrong in past games is pointless anyway, nobody has a track record of being perfect on day 1 so trying to discredit me this game because of pasts games is really shady.

[Tchill13]

Literally everything I do is scummy but don't vote me.

[Chumba]

nice misrep

[brassherald]

Hey, Chumba. Now I'm curious and think this might be a good exercise. Sell me on you being town.

[Chumba]

Hey, Chumba. Now I'm curious and think this might be a good exercise. Sell me on you being town.

no

[Not Known 15]

There is at least one scum in Havo/eth0s/chumba/chickadee. Likely two. Maybe even three.
Three of them have told us all things that do not add up(Havo, Eth0s and Chumba). Havo and eth0s were on a 1v1. Chickadee intervened. Chumba tried to.
Something is really wrong here. I have the feeling that one of Havo and eth0s is definitely scum, and that one of the later is also scum trying to defuse a 1v1 with scum. Of these two Chumba is the more interesting candidate, because their attempt was not as in the open as the one of chumba.
I think we even should consider a massclaim for those four right now, because it nails down scum in these four to an early claim, and that can be very dangerous for scum in some circumstances. It also forces scum to clear scummy (strong)power role claims there via nightkill to prevent them from getting night info that clears them and incriminates scum.

[Chumba]

I’m curious as to what you think I’ve said that hasn’t added up? Cause I call bullshit on that.

Thanks for reaffirming my scum read though trying to get more claims out there. I won’t be claiming.

[Chickadee]

We're not doing that. That's an incredibly bad idea.

[brassherald]

If one of you isn't going to respond to me, especially when it's the more town of the two, I'm not playing your stupid game of lynch one or the other. I'm now all for sorting you two out after we have a Night 1 kill.

VOTE: NK15

I'll switch back into this argument to avoid a no lynch day 1 and that's about it. But I definitely don't like what NK was doing, mass claim seems like scum hunting for PR very early.

[Not Known 15]

Havo.
Chumba.
Chickadee.
Eth0s.

Claim now.
The last one to claim from the most scummy players of you gets my Day 1 vote.
VOTE: Chumba
And as long as Chumba does not claim my vote stands there.

[Chumba]

That’s fine. Cause I’m not claiming unless I’m at l-1 and somebody gives intent.

Now answer my question

[Chumba]

Glad to see 2/3 of my scum list has been proven correct.

[profii]

Havo.
Chumba.
Chickadee.
Eth0s.

Claim now.
The last one to claim from the most scummy players of you gets my Day 1 vote.
VOTE: Chumba
And as long as Chumba does not claim my vote stands there.

wtf

VOTE: Not Known

why are we role fishing 4 people simultaneously.

[Not Known 15]

I’m curious as to what you think I’ve said that hasn’t added up?

You three have accused each other to make misleading statements, to mischaracterize actions... What you have said does not add up with what Havo said. Which strongly suggests that someone is scum there. Not all of you can be scum, so it is possible that you are belonging to the town in that bloc.

[Not Known 15]

Havo.
Chumba.
Chickadee.
Eth0s.

Claim now.
The last one to claim from the most scummy players of you gets my Day 1 vote.
VOTE: Chumba
And as long as Chumba does not claim my vote stands there.

wtf

VOTE: Not Known

why are we role fishing 4 people simultaneously.

There is at least one scum in Havo/eth0s/chumba/chickadee. Likely two. Maybe even three.
Three of them have told us all things that do not add up(Havo, Eth0s and Chumba). Havo and eth0s were on a 1v1. Chickadee intervened. Chumba tried to.
Something is really wrong here. I have the feeling that one of Havo and eth0s is definitely scum, and that one of the later is also scum trying to defuse a 1v1 with scum. Of these two Chumba is the more interesting candidate, because their attempt was not as in the open as the one of chumba.
I think we even should consider a massclaim for those four right now, because it nails down scum in these four to an early claim, and that can be very dangerous for scum in some circumstances. It also forces scum to clear scummy (strong)power role claims there via nightkill to prevent them from getting night info that clears them and incriminates scum.

[profii]

Havo.
Chumba.
Chickadee.
Eth0s.

Claim now.
The last one to claim from the most scummy players of you gets my Day 1 vote.
VOTE: Chumba
And as long as Chumba does not claim my vote stands there.

wtf

VOTE: Not Known

why are we role fishing 4 people simultaneously.

There is at least one scum in Havo/eth0s/chumba/chickadee. Likely two. Maybe even three.
Three of them have told us all things that do not add up(Havo, Eth0s and Chumba). Havo and eth0s were on a 1v1. Chickadee intervened. Chumba tried to.
Something is really wrong here. I have the feeling that one of Havo and eth0s is definitely scum, and that one of the later is also scum trying to defuse a 1v1 with scum. Of these two Chumba is the more interesting candidate, because their attempt was not as in the open as the one of chumba.
I think we even should consider a massclaim for those four right now, because it nails down scum in these four to an early claim, and that can be very dangerous for scum in some circumstances. It also forces scum to clear scummy (strong)power role claims there via nightkill to prevent them from getting night info that clears them and incriminates scum.

fair does, I missed that, apologies UNVOTE: not known 15[/vote]

that's quite a cheeky tactic and makes sense, I don't usually see the positive outcome of a mass claim but I like that.

out of interest, given the involvement of tchill in the dramasphere/lynchpool whatever you want to call it, is there a particular reason you haven't included him?

[Chumba]

I’m curious as to what you think I’ve said that hasn’t added up?

You three have accused each other to make misleading statements, to mischaracterize actions... What you have said does not add up with what Havo said. Which strongly suggests that someone is scum there. Not all of you can be scum, so it is possible that you are belonging to the town in that bloc.

I’ve already PROVEN my accusations against havo. If you honestly think I haven’t the burden of proof lies on you to show where I haven’t. I honestly don’t think you can though because I have proven havo manipulated the ethos post and I have proven havo lied about me being a better player. He even later admits that I do tunnel as town which is basically proving me right.

After you do that.

Please explain how having almost half the player list claiming their roles day 1 is beneficial to town. We already have 2 VT claims and you want 4 more claims.

[profii]

argh I'm so bad at bb code these days - all the forums I post on have GUI reply boxes these days

UNVOTE: Not Known 15

[Chumba]

that's quite a cheeky tactic and makes sense,

No his tactic doesn’t make sense and there is no town motivation for it.

[profii]

I’m curious as to what you think I’ve said that hasn’t added up?

You three have accused each other to make misleading statements, to mischaracterize actions... What you have said does not add up with what Havo said. Which strongly suggests that someone is scum there. Not all of you can be scum, so it is possible that you are belonging to the town in that bloc.

I’ve already PROVEN my accusations against havo. If you honestly think I haven’t the burden of proof lies on you to show where I haven’t. I honestly don’t think you can though because I have proven havo manipulated the ethos post and I have proven havo lied about me being a better player. He even later admits that I do tunnel as town which is basically proving me right.

After you do that.

Please explain how having almost half the player list claiming their roles day 1 is beneficial to town. We already have 2 VT claims and you want 4 more claims.

The more you use the phrase like PROVEN the more I think a policy lynch would be valid here. You PROVED my theory that Taco was false and he rolled town. eth0s even came in at the end and said they killed him for a probable mislynch which is exactly what you PROVED false.

I like your style of play and I've seen it get results, but you've made your point now.

[Chumba]

As long as people are going to say I haven’t proven it, I’m going to correct them since I have.

That game was different then here.

Here there are actual posts that support my accusation.