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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:27 pm

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Twomz didn't really do anything special, as far as I can tell. Not to belittle his play - sometimes, as scum, the best thing you can do is absolutely nothing.

Town screwed itself, really.
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:29 pm

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I forgot to mention something: I had originally planned the scum fakeclaims as their real roles. I changed it because I felt they didn't fit the flavor of some of the town PM's.
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:31 pm

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Well I saw that coming. At least, I applaud JacobSavage for his protown vigkills and understanding that the best bet to winning that last night was to control your trigger impulse and not kill. CMAR, probably the single biggest mistake you made was not waiting for Twomz' reaction to your "investigation." That, in my opinion, was the opening that Twomz needed to swing the town opinion.
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:37 pm

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@ Jacob: Well,
if you had paid attention D1 you would have seen SensFan's awesome play that totally labelled my slot as pro-town
. Had I been a PR I would've been NK'd for sure, being a PR and confirmed town.
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:07 pm

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My plan with CMAR from the moment he claimed was to nail him as scum fake claiming. My 'case' against him was basically he's fake claiming cop and he's going to fake a guilty so that he can endgame win. Which wouldn't have held up if I killed JS (he could do it a day early if he was SK or w/e in my thought process).

If you're saying my winning was luck... look at the night kills. Those weren't random, each one was done with a plan on who to go after the next day :P it sucked having to avoid killing PRs but to be honest they were my best bet on who to lynch (and their lack of death incriminates them more).
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:17 pm

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Twomz did well in the end.
CMAR makes me want to replace out of the last game I'm in with him. :/

And yeah. I bet you didn't even get married, Twomz. ;) It was all a ruse, wasn't it? :lol: Just kidding.
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:22 pm

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His wife was his scumpartner all along. =P
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:45 pm

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Sorry to be raining on the hate parade, but I think it's in poor taste to air dirty laundry out in public like that, Andrius. Unless someone was personally a jerk that everyone hates, it's really best to leave it in the thread and not trumpet it to the rest of the world. You're entitled to avoid all games with him, but let the rest of MS think of him as a moron on their own if that's how you think people should feel.

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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:50 pm

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Twomz wrote:If you're saying my winning was luck... look at the night kills. Those weren't random, each one was done with a plan on who to go after the next day :P it sucked having to avoid killing PRs but to be honest they were my best bet on who to lynch (and their lack of death incriminates them more).
Was the nokill planned as well? If I recall correctly we assumed you had given up at that point.
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:24 pm

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I didn't want CMAR to flip town and any other scenario would end up with an autolose for the town so they were thrown out (if we lynched JS to make sure he wasn't scum, ect). My hope was that I could NK JS and that he would hit CMAR. But, it didn't take much to get andrius to vote CMAR and that was the reason I had left both of them alive up to that point.

CMAR: You should have investigated JS as soon as he claimed vig. If you had done so I would have had no choice but to push for your lynch and JS would have had a 50/50 shot (hitting me or andrius) the next night. Also, I wouldn't have been able to say 'all vanilla townies with one SK setup and mafia roleblocker to help scum stop extra kill if they need it' if you had done that.
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:31 pm

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Yeah a RB for a single PR?

COME ONZZZZZZZ

Oh and I disagree that CMAR not waiting for Twomz was a huge mistake. Twomz was STILL VLA when Andrius saw the guilty and went: "Oh yeah? Well still voting you CMAR."

And then CMAR saw Twomz's scummiest post of the game: "Let me guess tomorrow you're either going to come in with
a real guilty on me, or an innocent on Andrius and speculate GF
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GOD WHAT A SLIP. And CMAR even NOTICED IT, said "that was scummy as hell, but I STILL THINK ITS ANDRIUS HERP DERP"

but yeah, no scummy for Twomz.

Jacob did very well (forgot to compliment him) cept that SV vig was off-target. Ani shoulda died N1 over the vanilla especially with the chainsaw defense thing he was doin.
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:19 pm

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Oh wow, I actually skimmed over that. Yes, that was a ridiculous slip.
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:51 am

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Sorry, I forgot to put quotations around real guilty and innocent. The post was meant to be sarcastic and point out that I didn't believe CMAR was a cop :P. If I had been town and had the same feeling, I would have posted the same thing (which is probably why I tend to get lynched as town >.>).
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:55 am

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Twomz wrote:Sorry, I forgot to put quotations around real guilty and innocent. The post was meant to be sarcastic and point out that I didn't believe CMAR was a cop :P. If I had been town and had the same feeling, I would have posted the same thing (which is probably why I tend to get lynched as town >.>).
But it was the exact opposite of what he would've done if he were a scum cop :/.
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:17 am

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Still Twomz the fact that you said he would come in with a guilty on you or an innocent on Andrius is what REALLY would've happened (since you were scum and Andrius was town).

If you were town in that position not believing CMAR you would say "let me guess you're going to come in with a "real" guilty on Andrius tomorrow and try to get him lynched"

Basically I rephrased what Leafsnail said.

Dun worry Leaf, we'll get a win one of these days...
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:24 am

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reading the aftermath, Fate seems like a pro player
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:12 am

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The one thing that sucked was my activity Day 1. I had a lot going on personally and for anyone who plays with me on a normal basis, whether town or scum, I never use my real life stuff in the game other than letting everyone know that I haven't been around.

Fate's push really fucking sucked.


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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:43 pm

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FakeGod wrote:reading the aftermath, Fate seems like a pro player
Aftermath?

Weren't you one of my Fate Followers IN-game?

I hope you thought I was pro then >_>

Oh and Starbuck, your activity wasn't what I used so don't make it out like that.

You tried to discredit Fate, your demise was your own responsibility.
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:05 am

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meh, I couldn't tell in-game. You were too confusing.

But, it's always really fun to appoint someone as God and we just do what he says.
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:18 am

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Coincidentally, that person was the cop, so it wasn't a bad move.
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