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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:23 am

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Vote Muerrto
for being seventh on the list.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:32 am

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Vote: Oman
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:45 am

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vote: Charter
because I'm voting him in another game.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:47 am

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Vote: Oman


cause he nailed me as scum last time.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:55 am

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Muerrto wrote:
Vote: Oman


cause he nailed me as scum last time.
So you are scum this time and are afraid of him? :D
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:09 pm

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EBWOP:
I should also say that I am probably the newest player in the game. I have one game ongoing in Road to Rome, and my mafia experience before that amounts to a few games played in the third grade. I'm familiar with most of the terminology, and I won't use newbie status as a defense for poor play or ignorance, but I figured you should all know that I have little meta knowledge or trend experience on the site.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:19 pm

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sthar8 wrote:I won't use newbie status as a defense for poor play or ignorance
I already like you.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:26 pm

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ClockworkRuse wrote:
Muerrto wrote:
Vote: Oman


cause he nailed me as scum last time.
So you are scum this time and are afraid of him? :D
Lol no I'm mad he handed me my second ever loss as mafia period, this site, whatever site, real life...

And it was a legit false claim but the real doctor chose not to protect the cop!!! It was BS. I false claimed doc, Oman totally bought it, the real doc countered and said she protected ME!!! Oman's like, there's no way scum would flase claim and say they didn't protect the cop. I'm like, damn I thought there was no way the doc wouldn't protect the cop =p

So someone else's bad play killed me. And yes I'm still sore lol

I want a mulligan.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:26 pm

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looking at the player list, I don't think I've ever played with any of you.

vote: oman

Might I suggest we attempt to get out of the random vote stage quickly? We have deadlines that are substantially faster than normally paced games, thus I think we should try and get some substance instead of wasting 3-4 days (1/4 of our day) in RVS. That said, I do not support quicklynching. I will push the largest bandwagon or most likely to lynch bandwagon if we are close to deadline and not going anywhere. I think we need the info from lynches. What are your opinions?
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:27 pm

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EDBWOP:
vote: oman
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:29 pm

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Looks the only quirks in the rules here are basically activity requirements. Post every 48 hours, 48 hour nighttimes, and 14 day deadlines? I'd imagine if everybody is as active as the 48 hour posting requirements require, the deadline shouldn't be much of a problem at all.


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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:32 pm

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Unvote, Vote: aioqwe


You say you don't wanna random vote then you random vote? You say you don't want quicklynches but vote the person with the most votes so far?

At least we left the random stage.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:29 pm

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Indeed.
Vote Muerrto

Unvote

Vote aioqwe


Bad logic, attempt the quickly, full of fail.

Muerrto, you got unlucky there, but that doctor play was SOOOOO obviously town there was no way you were going to convince me after that :D
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:51 pm

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I know that's what I mean, who doesn't protect the cop?! What were the chances? lol oh well
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:03 pm

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Muerrto wrote:I know that's what I mean, who doesn't protect the cop?! What were the chances? lol oh well
You got your ass wifom'd to death, it sounds
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:05 pm

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strife220 wrote:
Muerrto wrote:I know that's what I mean, who doesn't protect the cop?! What were the chances? lol oh well
You got your ass wifom'd to death, it sounds
Not really, it was all about the logic of scum falseclaiming trying to convince ME.
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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:12 pm

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aioqwe wrote:Might I suggest we attempt to get out of the random vote stage quickly? We have deadlines that are substantially faster than normally paced games, thus I think we should try and get some substance instead of wasting 3-4 days (1/4 of our day) in RVS. That said, I do not support quicklynching. I will push the largest bandwagon or most likely to lynch bandwagon if we are close to deadline and not going anywhere. I think we need the info from lynches. What are your opinions?
I'll certainly aim to lynch every day, but I think I'd prefer to lynch as close to deadline as possible each day.

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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:55 pm

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I think we can all agree that No Lynch is a Very Bad Thing unless used to solve a particular situation. I doubt severely that such a situation will arise on D1.

Would it be advantageous to us as a town to create a plurality policy? That is, we agree that at some predetermined time before the deadline (-6 or -8 hours), if there is no consensus we will lynch the person with the greatest number of votes? I can't see any particular advantage in this for scum that matches the disadvantage town gets from no-lynch, and our Day 1 information is going to be limited anyway. I think that scum misdirecting a lynch near deadline or abusing the policy would be a pretty transparent tactic.

aioqwe: Why did you vote for Oman?
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:05 pm

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I'd certainly support this day 1, but beyond that I think we'd have to go on a day-by-day basis. I doubt it'll be needed after a full day and night worth of action.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:21 pm

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sthar8 wrote:Would it be advantageous to us as a town to create a plurality policy? That is, we agree that at some predetermined time before the deadline (-6 or -8 hours), if there is no consensus we will lynch the person with the greatest number of votes?
This is essentially a constant unspoken rule. There's no debate that a random lynch is, under normal circumstances, better than a no-lynch. When deadline gets exceptionally close, town will behave accordingly.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:22 pm

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Denied sthar8.

I disagree with any policy put in place like this. It makes it too easy for the scum to control us.

That said, its not like I'm being a Creamy Chicken here (GET IT, RAMEN JOKE!), I just don't want the mafia to have control.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:10 pm

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Oman: Are you opposed to setting policies in general or to this one specifically? I ask because I couldn't think of a way for scum to abuse this more than the current deadline rules. I agree that a genuine concensus lynch is better, and I think it's more likely given the activity so far. I just thought it might be nice to guarantee at least a little information gain should the worst occur.

Also, was that a name claim? :wink:

Liam: The idea was only intended for Day1 anyway.

My opinion on aioqwe so far is that he is most likely anxious about the deadline rules, but was worried that wanting to speed up conversation would be seen as scummy. This could go either way, and his response to my question may earn him an FOS or vote.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:19 pm

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Okay, so we're at the random vote part of the day?

Original Roll String: 1d12
1 12-Sided Dice: (9) = 9


Dice Vote GO!

Vote: Dice #
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:11 pm

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Unvote Vote melikefood


Dice tags are wrong and evil, and you should be killed.

Unless you people don't know: I have a real beef with dicetags, they're basically a way for the mafia to vote and not feel frightened. The stage isn't meant to be random, its meant to be arbitrary.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:52 pm

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I agree Dice tags = Bad.

Also A D-1 no lynch in my experience is extremely disadvantageous to the town, and should be avoided at all costs unless there is some sort of specific game altercations, which we don't have here.

A random lynch has a 1/12 chance of hitting scum, which is better than a 0/12.

Its all in the math.
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