Open 510: DUCK DUCK GOOSE- SCUM WIN!!

[Ms Marangal]

Vote Count 4.02

Voting:

Siverure DtTrikyp (2)

: Mutleyddmc, Generic

(L-2)

Not voting

: Treble, Sound of Silence, TaskMaster, Siverure DtTrikyp

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch[/area][/align] [/size]

Deadline is 8/16/2013 10:00 PM GMT (That's (expired on 2013-08-16 12:00:00))

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Siv, you claimed to have used it TWICE. How comes its scummy when mutley does it but not you? and even then you fence sit on the comment... sigh.

Why do I have to write you off as town just because you are playing terribly again? You are so conscious of self image and you try to make a big point of blatant scumminess. That's trying to cover your arse on the scum slips you didn't mean.

Um. First time reactions are what they are. And then rethinking it because it's stupid does happen.

If I was scum I'm wifoming so hard to get my way out the lynch. If i'm town it's still basically that lol.

I'm conscious of my self-image because I think I get lynched a lot and I've no idea why.

I'm saying you've got confirmation bias, and the way you're going around the fact I'm calling you out on it really shows it.

[Mutleyddmc]

its pretty much guranteed that 1 of generic or siv are scum.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Why?

[Mutleyddmc]

cos surely the hammer would have happened by now

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

I'm not really scumreading generic and there's basically no way you can tell if this is town v town tbh.

Pedit: Ah. Um.

VOTE: mutleyddmc

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Erm, UNVOTE: mutley

thinking a bit more thats just a silly comment not a scummy one.

[Generic]

You are basing the point on no hammer vote mutley?

By that same logic you are also implicated then.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

I'd like to point out that not even everyone has posted since the second vote.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Pedit: Generic, he can't implicate himself.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Generic, give a full reads list.

[Mutleyddmc]

All but 1 has posted. Who is a 3 headed hydra surely one would be on to quick hammer.

Yes in your two eyes it's me or the other.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Actually, I just realized.

If everyone still alive hasn't used their shot, we can just lynch then everyone uses their pgo and there won't be a townkill tonight.

[Mutleyddmc]

I've used mine

[Mutleyddmc]

I've used mine

[Generic]

Ok,

Siv - scum, for the reasons stated.

sound of silence - the lurking and filler posts alone give him a scum lean, but he is so uninvolved I cant remember a single read they gave on anyone or a vote they laid.

treble - leaning scum because of previous links to hana and the playing on differences of opinion on eventual mislynches within the hydra. There is also similar to my point against siv a clear buddying to notmara as well as intent to sheep him the day before his death, so both coordinatedly had identified him as the strongest town player.

mutley - leaning town, despite bizarre comments with limited explanation until pushed. I have played in a game with town mutley and his posts do seem to come across as genuine. I have concluded he simply isn't a person who knows how to present a full case or he simply doesn't see any value in it... either way he hasn't posted anything scummy, shown any signs of buddying and has always been clear when he thinks someone is scummy.

taskmaster - leaning town. I have already stated that my early butting of head with him opened my eyes to the point that their thought process is more similar to mine as well as their approach to things than I had first realised. And you can say its a stupid reason to consider someone town over but I can obviously see a town mindset from them as a result.

Basically as I see it now siv you are one of the scum, and then if its one more its between sound of silence or treble.

[Generic]

Your turn mutley and siv, and when the hydras join us they can also present a set of reads too...

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Ohey. I actually need to make reads now. And they're probably gonna be really empty. Whatever. Yeah. I really don't feel like looking at all the pages before this so not giving reads.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Anyway, mutley, can you unvote me? I know generic not doing it is really unlikely but this looks really really like genuine confbias so idk.

[Generic]

confbias? please explain the term as its new to me.

And why ask someone to give their reads if you have no intention of doing the same? That simply reads like someone not wishing to implicate a teammate.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

By confbias i mean confirmation bias. Basically, you think i'm scum so you ignore any evidence to the contrary and just read every post as scummy.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

And I asked for you reads to help in reading you, lol. The way you sortof immediately jumped on mutley as well as me was kinda confusing so I wanted to know where you stand on everyone.

[Mutleyddmc]

My reads are really poor cos I feel all of you could easily be scum. Sivs gambit keeps making me flip flop cos sometimes I think wow scummy others I think yer he is town trying to catch out scum.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

What gambit?

[Generic]

OK, I see what you mean, and unfortunately I think that's mafia in a nutshell. Many players who stick with it are pig headed, because they have found their reads to be right more often they are wrong. But I do know what you mean about how the mindset dictates the read on a post.

I asked for both of you to give reads as you two are the only ones posting. I want everyone to give their reads since we have only 5 other people to analyse each.