Mini Normal 2160 | FIA Group B | Endgame

[Saudade]

We need more activity from the i/a players such as zombie and sirius

[innocentvillager]

sorry I don’t think I’ve ever felt so bad and useless in a plist :/ I think you guys are too good for me or I’m just terrible

maybe I should stick to newbie games

[Nepenthes]

I am frustrated if youre town bc it looks like youve decided im scum but are both uninterested in pushing it or even talking about it so from my pov youre never going to fix the read

Ask me why this is you scum claiming after the game

Ask me why you never got me elimmed

[the worst]

I am frustrated if youre town bc it looks like youve decided im scum but are both uninterested in pushing it or even talking about it so from my pov youre never going to fix the read

predictably I don't think this frustration is any more likely to come from you as either town or scum and I could literally see you making those comments as either alignment

I don't think I'm in a headspace to revisit you and come out with an accurate read so I'm gonna stick to following my gut for now

if you're town just assume I'm a neutral third party whose win condition is to make everyone scream at me by endgame and find the scums and I'll sort it out later (if u like actually think I'm scum for reals please find my buddies but I think there's a 50/50 chance town!you throws that read down out of confusion/frustration given the earliness)

[Nepenthes]

sorry I don’t think I’ve ever felt so bad and useless in a plist :/ I think you guys are too good for me or I’m just terrible

maybe I should stick to newbie games

Youre not useless
Calling a player you dont know how to read a clown or unreadable is a failing on them imo

[Nepenthes]

I don't think I'm in a headspace to revisit you and come out with an accurate read so I'm gonna stick to following my gut for now

k

[the worst]

duck, I’m sorry if you think I’m asking you leading questions that feel unfair to you or that I’m not attempting to genuinely engage you, I just want to reiterate that I’m trying to understand your thought processes even if my questions have a purpose that might not be immediately clear, and the level of questioning I’m doing is probably at least partly motivated by feeling like I didn’t do my due diligence in miccro

it's ok, no apology needed. I don't think you engage me with intentionally leading questions; just please accept that I'm going to call out things that appear to be presumptuous fmpov.

I don’t think what I’m looking for depends on confidence in reads

I'm trying to avoid defaulting to "I felt like it" but I don't think I have a lot of exciting mindset insights to impart on you as of yet? if I attributed motivations I'd be exaggerating them or making them up atp

[Saudade]

sorry I don’t think I’ve ever felt so bad and useless in a plist :/ I think you guys are too good for me or I’m just terrible

maybe I should stick to newbie games

Do your best and make an effort to catch scum. 90% of the players here cant play mafia and just come to socialise under a guise of a game

[Saudade]

So just put your favourite song go over the game and find one good candidate that you'd like to get lynched

[Nepenthes]

I like to think of mafia as elaborate roleplay at all times

[lilith2013]

duck, I’m sorry if you think I’m asking you leading questions that feel unfair to you or that I’m not attempting to genuinely engage you, I just want to reiterate that I’m trying to understand your thought processes even if my questions have a purpose that might not be immediately clear, and the level of questioning I’m doing is probably at least partly motivated by feeling like I didn’t do my due diligence in miccro

it's ok, no apology needed. I don't think you engage me with intentionally leading questions; just please accept that I'm going to call out things that appear to be presumptuous fmpov.

Could you explain what about those questions made them feel presumptuous? I’ll see if I can word them differently to be more neutral/make them not feel as much

I don’t think what I’m looking for depends on confidence in reads

I'm trying to avoid defaulting to "I felt like it" but I don't think I have a lot of exciting mindset insights to impart on you as of yet? if I attributed motivations I'd be exaggerating them or making them up atp

“I felt like it” is an acceptable answer sometimes

[NorwegianboyEE]

90% of the players here cant play mafia and just come to socialise under a guise of a game

Are you calling me out?

[Saudade]

Norwee what do you think about the worst

[lilith2013]

I, too, feel personally attacked (/s)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee what do you think about the worst

Town i guess. Feeling lukewarm about their recent posting tho.

[NorwegianboyEE]

sorry I don’t think I’ve ever felt so bad and useless in a plist :/ I think you guys are too good for me or I’m just terrible

maybe I should stick to newbie games

Youre not useless
Calling a player you dont know how to read a clown or unreadable is a failing on them imo

Why do you have to make posts that make me:

Spoiler:

[lilith2013]

@iv

also IV can you please answer why you’re voting billy pilgrim right now?

[Saudade]

Whats feeling lukewarm mean? Sorry first time i see this term

[innocentvillager]

i mean i think im just one of the people who likes to play but isn't very good at it

shitposting is fun and all especially at the beginning but once you guys started blasting off into all these crazy nuanced thought psychology battles with each other i got pretty lost and only had weak gut opinions, none of which really leaned scum

like lilith and worsty on recent posting would just be obvious townreads for me normally? but like I'm not even really sure here because idk if this just good scum masquerading

i know this sounds dumb and maybe melodramatic because that's literally what this game is about but idk if i describe it better

really don't have any scumreads rn only some townreads but im not even sure about those

but yeah ill just give it my best shot i guess. will try to pore over this on monday or tues when i have a bigger block of time

pedit: lilith I answered this twice already, i literally just voted him for fun and I didn't townread him. i don't know how i feel about him now, ill have to take a deeper look

[innocentvillager]

idk im sorry this turned into a rant in the middle of game i don't want to distract from the content, this is probably MD material.

[Saudade]

What do you think about Nep iv?

[lilith2013]

Sorry I forget who’s answered my outstanding questions and sometimes quote myself multiple times after it’s been answered

[the worst]

sorry I don’t think I’ve ever felt so bad and useless in a plist :/ I think you guys are too good for me or I’m just terrible

maybe I should stick to newbie games

Do your best and make an effort to catch scum. 90% of the players here cant play mafia and just come to socialise under a guise of a game

i feel so attacked. i even socialise with you!!!

you're not wrong though

[the worst]

duck, I’m sorry if you think I’m asking you leading questions that feel unfair to you or that I’m not attempting to genuinely engage you, I just want to reiterate that I’m trying to understand your thought processes even if my questions have a purpose that might not be immediately clear, and the level of questioning I’m doing is probably at least partly motivated by feeling like I didn’t do my due diligence in miccro

it's ok, no apology needed. I don't think you engage me with intentionally leading questions; just please accept that I'm going to call out things that appear to be presumptuous fmpov.

Could you explain what about those questions made them feel presumptuous? I’ll see if I can word them differently to be more neutral/make them not feel as much

I don’t think what I’m looking for depends on confidence in reads

I'm trying to avoid defaulting to "I felt like it" but I don't think I have a lot of exciting mindset insights to impart on you as of yet? if I attributed motivations I'd be exaggerating them or making them up atp

“I felt like it” is an acceptable answer sometimes

i think i already explained why they felt presumptuous; i don't feel like i'm satisfied i have a read on sausage but i'd generated enough noise about a fairly pointless subject and i was adequately happy to be voting elsewhere.

oh shit
in that case: i felt like it applies heavily

[innocentvillager]

Nep, what’s your thoughts on InnocentVillager?

I like the guy seems fun
Imo the movement around iv is more ai so far than ivs actual posts

The way I play, every person is a scum suspect until they clear as town. However, I feel as if there is some good bets for scum in Nep, BillyPilgrim and Norway so far, and one super secret read which I need more time to be sure of.

I am much more confident in my town block than anything else, tough.

VOTE: Four

Actually no that was all bull i dont like four but hes probtown

VOTE: innocentvillager
569 is preemptively self conscious and hes being appeasing to four

I think the reasons here seem a little surface/forced but maybe that's just because I disagree? But I also like the whole progression and the timestamps surrounding them, it really does seem like he's taking time to reread and reevaluate real time, they're about 10 minutes apart

in general I feel like his posts have been more geared towards seeming like he's sorting people than actually attempting to sort people. The questions he asked me were very.... like I'm not actually sure how my answers were going to help him sort me, it looked like he asked me questions just to look like he was doing things. He also questioned both sides of the wagon (ie both lavar and me) in the same kind of way. And when I asked how my response helped him sort me, he basically just said my response was good. I think also the early townread on me feels kind of buddying-adjacent, and so does the townread on Norweeeeeej

This applies to iv too imo like even on this page
Somebody hated the poker post from billy but i kindve liked it it is a fucking weird post but in an i want to be heard kinda way

26 pages in time to get settled in already daddy

I hate you more now

Lilith would you vote iv

I like this reason for voting me more and I like that he pointed it out and tried to push here

i didn't really find anything else that immediately sticks out, I think null leaning town for me