Open 904: DE Runs a Marathon Setup in the Open Queue [Completed]

[hellbooks]

Theres this scumhunting tactic that seems to be in vogue in my experience which is when someone says "this seems like something someone who already knows X is Town would say" I think fire said it in coal or maybe it was someone else such as tris. since then I think I have been like making vague connections between posts and that idea without any sort of real confidence or knowledge of how accurate it is

such as when Dannflor was like "if hellbooks is town then someone such as roden or jackson virgo is more likely to be scum pushing a silly easy fakeread on her"

i was like "well this conclusion could much more easily come to someone who knows i am town rather than someone who sees me as this perennially suspicious character than indeed most people eventually come around to suspecting at some point in their lives"

but i found what dannflor said to be a true thing as well. Like I didnt disagree with it. and you can in fact see that reflected in my voting record. But I thought that not just because of the overarching strategic ideas behind scum wanting to push limbait clowns but because I guess I found their reads on me to be rather incurious (but maybe that's also influencing dannflor and he just took it as a given as to why he's singling out those two people) and also because there is a clear difference between me and a town aligned dannflor in how confident they are in whether or not I'm town

[hellbooks]

i think i might have been literally the very last person to get a page top in this game and i pressed the right arrow button a ton of times to see about that. excepting alianna who got an awesome page bottom singularly

[Dannflor]

it's more of a hypothesis than a conclusion

[hellbooks]

of course you are instantly correct

[hellbooks]

in fact i only pulled out all that garbage nonsense to elicit yet another perfect response from you

[Dannflor]

it is something that i am on high alert for especially after Dragon's frenemies game that just ended

ranger was someone i thought was town but was very likely to be pushed by scum

and then scum!STD spent all game hard pushing ranger

i think you and jupiter fit a similar profile of having lots of personality based things that are easy to scum read and, like, look *good* to scum read, so if you're town I'd expect you to attract scum

i am currently town reading you both but im not as confident as i was with ranger in that game though. but i like it as a working hypothesis

[Dannflor]

I think I could be wrong on Jupiter, and in that world Dannflor is scum

what made you think you could be wrong on jupiter?

[usesPython]

Just realized the deadline is in two days and there's like 6 competing vanity wagons

UNVOTE:

selling our vote who wants it

[usesPython]

alternatively help us wagon Roden who wants in

[JupiterXV]

would prefer to vote between dann and JV but if anyone has a convincing scumcase on someone else i'll be willing to vote there

[Dannflor]

He says it's because I'm not solving or making teams but I've already posted partner thoughts based on if Jupiter flips scum and I'm solving in my usual way

to be honest black, if you're town, your play feels like a facsimile of your usual town play

the partner post about me and fire feels like it lacks the usual fire (heh) that you usually have

like later you follow it up with a reads list that has me and fire both at the top of a null section, so it doesn't really feel like that association really informed your reads at all, it just kinda feels like a post you were compelled to make because town!Black would

so, yes, i recognize you've made the mechanical posts and movements that satisfy the "solving the game" requirement, but it just feels kinda lifeless to me

[Dannflor]

the push on me feels like the first thing with some real life behind it actually

[fireisredsir]

UNVOTE: idt i scumread python anymore

[fireisredsir]

idr when i stopped scumreading hellbooks but i do even less now

[usesPython]

would prefer to vote between dann and JV but if anyone has a convincing scumcase on someone else i'll be willing to vote there

Notice how you only have two people you want to vote in a 3 scum game while Roden has been lurking the entire game

[Dannflor]

i don't know why you stopped scum reading JV, fire

[Dannflor]

i think jupiter continues to be town for how wack the black/dann read is

[fireisredsir]

i don't know why you stopped scum reading JV, fire

i liked his interaction with me a little bit but i still scumread him

[fireisredsir]

i could do JV

[fireisredsir]

did you wanna talk about why you scumread me or no dann

[Dannflor]

uh idk

I’m actually having second thoughts after the marathon funnily enough

[fireisredsir]

im curious what your original thoughts were though

[JupiterXV]

would prefer to vote between dann and JV but if anyone has a convincing scumcase on someone else i'll be willing to vote there

Notice how you only have two people you want to vote in a 3 scum game while Roden has been lurking the entire game

ok

[JupiterXV]

i think jupiter continues to be town for how wack the black/dann read is

???

[JupiterXV]

ftr dann if you are scum here and you successfully managae to gaslight me into thinking you're town ill take you to the parking lot and throw hands, bbut perhaps this is not threatening because you are a grown man and i am but a child