Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[Sando]

how can scum even get power echo if Hana gives out the powers?

It was a power N3 and N4

[Toranaga]

@Sando:

Please stay out of this.

I'm not getting involved in "this", I'm saying that you need to tone down your responses to people who disagree with your plans. I was called paranoid, by you, earlier for suggesting that Titus was being fed precog info, and now you're presenting it as if it's the most obvious thing in the world. FA has called me crazy paranoid for discussing the idea that she let Cerb die without powers N1, and then it's now just accepted that Titus did that N2.

People have legit disagreements about mechanics here, it's pretty complex, you've been presenting the people who've disagreed with you as dumbies when (at least some of them) they're not.

oh math really called you paranoid for it? that's interesting because if someone was feeding titus precog info, there's an extremely good chance it was mathblade.

the 180 on the stance is really telling on math's alignment.

I don’t think,Titus was being fed anything. If she had negate herself or any of the 2 other scummy powers available that night, then it really doesn’t make a lot of sense for scum to kill Shiro. I suppose you could always argue that scum had good reason to think he wouldn’t use his bp but I think, scum didn’t want Ank to tell Shiro she never got a power and while this scenario can make sense with any 3 of the scummier powers available that night, it really doesn’t make a helluva lot of sense with precog.

if scum has someone infiltrated in towncore

you know, someone like mathblade

then killing shiro is essential because when mathblade becomes captain, they can e.g. pretend they picked the NK and give another scum powers. like he did with stungun.

just an example.

and is titus died by lynch with power negate then they will of course kill shiro cause shiro was unprotected.

[Nero Cain]

poe pool

Creature
Gamma Emerald
hebichan
Kokichi Oma
Theta Alpine
Nosferatu
the worst

town pool

Frozen Angel
Nancy Drew 39
Nero Cain
Sakura Hana
Sando
Toranaga

math and drixx pool

Drixx
MathBlade

Like, if these are our pools and we went for the long drawn out version of lynching from POE 1 by 1 then scum is just going to shoot from the town pool. I'm not seeing how a long drawn out conflict helps us. Isn't that how we lost Vietnam?

[Nero Cain]

even math is against it now.

isn't that a good point

FOR

it?

[Toranaga]

even math is against it now.

isn't that a good point

FOR

it?

it's blatantly awful idea dude

[Nancy Drew 39]

how can scum even get power echo if Hana gives out the powers?

Okay lol, you don’t quite understand how this works. Sakura can’t give out powers, all she can do is choose superheroes and then they, the superheroes pick the powers. However, we can plan in out in advance, who gets what powers when it comes to the bombing thing and they have to abide by it or get lynched basically.

I might not really be explaining this really well.

[Nero Cain]

poe pool

Creature
Gamma Emerald
hebichan
Kokichi Oma
Theta Alpine
Nosferatu
the worst

town pool

Frozen Angel
Nancy Drew 39
Nero Cain
Sakura Hana
Sando
Toranaga

math and drixx pool

Drixx
MathBlade

Like, if these are our pools and we went for the long drawn out version of lynching from POE 1 by 1 then scum is just going to shoot from the town pool. I'm not seeing how a long drawn out conflict helps us. Isn't that how we lost Vietnam?

thoughts Nancy?

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Sando:

Please stay out of this.

I'm not getting involved in "this", I'm saying that you need to tone down your responses to people who disagree with your plans. I was called paranoid, by you, earlier for suggesting that Titus was being fed precog info, and now you're presenting it as if it's the most obvious thing in the world. FA has called me crazy paranoid for discussing the idea that she let Cerb die without powers N1, and then it's now just accepted that Titus did that N2.

People have legit disagreements about mechanics here, it's pretty complex, you've been presenting the people who've disagreed with you as dumbies when (at least some of them) they're not.

oh math really called you paranoid for it? that's interesting because if someone was feeding titus precog info, there's an extremely good chance it was mathblade.

the 180 on the stance is really telling on math's alignment.

I don’t think,Titus was being fed anything. If she had negate herself or any of the 2 other scummy powers available that night, then it really doesn’t make a lot of sense for scum to kill Shiro. I suppose you could always argue that scum had good reason to think he wouldn’t use his bp but I think, scum didn’t want Ank to tell Shiro she never got a power and while this scenario can make sense with any 3 of the scummier powers available that night, it really doesn’t make a helluva lot of sense with precog.

if scum has someone infiltrated in towncore

you know, someone like mathblade

then killing shiro is essential because when mathblade becomes captain, they can e.g. pretend they picked the NK and give another scum powers. like he did with stungun.

just an example.

and is titus died by lynch with power negate then they will of course kill shiro cause shiro was unprotected.

But Stun had him in his hardtown core, so what would be the motivation for Math to kill him? But if Titus died with negate, then what would scum have to fear from a Shiro Ank visit?

[Nancy Drew 39]

poe pool

Creature
Gamma Emerald
hebichan
Kokichi Oma
Theta Alpine
Nosferatu
the worst

town pool

Frozen Angel
Nancy Drew 39
Nero Cain
Sakura Hana
Sando
Toranaga

math and drixx pool

Drixx
MathBlade

Like, if these are our pools and we went for the long drawn out version of lynching from POE 1 by 1 then scum is just going to shoot from the town pool. I'm not seeing how a long drawn out conflict helps us. Isn't that how we lost Vietnam?

What category is the Math and Drixx pool?

[Nero Cain]

of course, if scum is just as simple as

Creature
Gamma Emerald
hebichan

then we are all arguing over nothing anyways.

[The Dream Weaver]

Ausuka replaces Frozen Angel.

[Nero Cain]

What category is the Math and Drixx pool?

its kinda like two people off in their own fantasy land. I think Drixx could totes be scum though.

[Ausuka]

hello!

i'm not really going to read 400 pages I think; is there anything specific I should be looking at?

[Nero Cain]

Vote: Gamma

read Drixx's, Gammas, Hebi and Creature ISO and tell me wich 3 are scum if any.

[Toranaga]

@Sando:

Please stay out of this.

I'm not getting involved in "this", I'm saying that you need to tone down your responses to people who disagree with your plans. I was called paranoid, by you, earlier for suggesting that Titus was being fed precog info, and now you're presenting it as if it's the most obvious thing in the world. FA has called me crazy paranoid for discussing the idea that she let Cerb die without powers N1, and then it's now just accepted that Titus did that N2.

People have legit disagreements about mechanics here, it's pretty complex, you've been presenting the people who've disagreed with you as dumbies when (at least some of them) they're not.

oh math really called you paranoid for it? that's interesting because if someone was feeding titus precog info, there's an extremely good chance it was mathblade.

the 180 on the stance is really telling on math's alignment.

I don’t think,Titus was being fed anything. If she had negate herself or any of the 2 other scummy powers available that night, then it really doesn’t make a lot of sense for scum to kill Shiro. I suppose you could always argue that scum had good reason to think he wouldn’t use his bp but I think, scum didn’t want Ank to tell Shiro she never got a power and while this scenario can make sense with any 3 of the scummier powers available that night, it really doesn’t make a helluva lot of sense with precog.

if scum has someone infiltrated in towncore

you know, someone like mathblade

then killing shiro is essential because when mathblade becomes captain, they can e.g. pretend they picked the NK and give another scum powers. like he did with stungun.

just an example.

and is titus died by lynch with power negate then they will of course kill shiro cause shiro was unprotected.

But Stun had him in his hardtown core, so what would be the motivation for Math to kill him? But if Titus died with negate, then what would scum have to fear from a Shiro Ank visit?

not an ank visit, but the power would be very inconvenient for later gamedays yes?

the stun kill points to no power negation

the ank kill and titus being leader point to power negation

that would mean titus had power negation

and some other scum had precog

math has precog

idk I just want math dead now

[Toranaga]

Vote: Gamma

read Drixx's, Gammas, Hebi and Creature ISO and tell me wich 3 are scum if any.

gamma is scum

[Nosferatu]

yikes what a read that was

[Nero Cain]

gamma is scum

then vote him, not voting Math save for maybe a compromise policy.

[Nancy Drew 39]

poe pool

Creature
Gamma Emerald
hebichan
Kokichi Oma

Theta Alpine

Nosferatu

the worst

town pool

Frozen Angel
Nancy Drew 39
Nero Cain
Sakura Hana
Sando
Toranaga

math and drixx pool

Drixx
MathBlade

Like, if these are our pools and we went for the long drawn out version of lynching from POE 1 by 1 then scum is just going to shoot from the town pool. I'm not seeing how a long drawn out conflict helps us. Isn't that how we lost Vietnam?

What category is the Math and Drixx pool?

P.edit. I agree with your reads for the most part. I’m still confused on what the bottom one signifies.

I would suggest that the worst, theta and one of Kokichi/Nos be given bombs and use it on the remaining 3? or maybe just tw and theta?

[Toranaga]

gamma is scum

then vote him, not voting Math save for maybe a compromise policy.

I'm tunneling math until math dies

give me sui bomb and ill blow him up

give me a vote and I'll vote him

give me a vig and I'll vig him

anyway IDK what possessed me to wake up but I'm back to bed

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ausuka replaces Frozen Angel.

Whoa, that was fast.

[Nancy Drew 39]

What category is the Math and Drixx pool?

its kinda like two people off in their own fantasy land. I think Drixx could totes be scum though.

[Nero Cain]

I'm tunneling math until math dies

but even if Math is scum and just not the bad town he normally is there's still 2 others. Also, Drixx is way scummier than Math although that's not saying much.

[Nero Cain]

All joking aside, I think this is more how I feel.

poe pool

Creature
Gamma Emerald
hebichan
Kokichi Oma
Theta Alpine
Nosferatu
the worst
Drixx

town pool

Frozen Angel
Nancy Drew 39
Nero Cain
Sakura Hana
Sando
Toranaga
MathBlade

Even if we went just old fashioned and lynched a player each day scum are going to shoot exclusively from the town pool and I just feel like for this to work we'd need a significantly smaller POE pool and them blowing themselves up accomplishes that and gives the scum less ML bait.

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Sando:

Please stay out of this.

I'm not getting involved in "this", I'm saying that you need to tone down your responses to people who disagree with your plans. I was called paranoid, by you, earlier for suggesting that Titus was being fed precog info, and now you're presenting it as if it's the most obvious thing in the world. FA has called me crazy paranoid for discussing the idea that she let Cerb die without powers N1, and then it's now just accepted that Titus did that N2.

People have legit disagreements about mechanics here, it's pretty complex, you've been presenting the people who've disagreed with you as dumbies when (at least some of them) they're not.

oh math really called you paranoid for it? that's interesting because if someone was feeding titus precog info, there's an extremely good chance it was mathblade.

the 180 on the stance is really telling on math's alignment.

I don’t think,Titus was being fed anything. If she had negate herself or any of the 2 other scummy powers available that night, then it really doesn’t make a lot of sense for scum to kill Shiro. I suppose you could always argue that scum had good reason to think he wouldn’t use his bp but I think, scum didn’t want Ank to tell Shiro she never got a power and while this scenario can make sense with any 3 of the scummier powers available that night, it really doesn’t make a helluva lot of sense with precog.

if scum has someone infiltrated in towncore

you know, someone like mathblade

then killing shiro is essential because when mathblade becomes captain, they can e.g. pretend they picked the NK and give another scum powers. like he did with stungun.

just an example.

and is titus died by lynch with power negate then they will of course kill shiro cause shiro was unprotected.

But Stun had him in his hardtown core, so what would be the motivation for Math to kill him? But if Titus died with negate, then what would scum have to fear from a Shiro Ank visit?

not an ank visit, but the power would be very inconvenient for later gamedays yes?

the stun kill points to no power negation

the ank kill and titus being leader point to power negation

that would mean titus had power negation

and some other scum had precog

math has precog

idk I just want math dead now

1) Agree scum would want to get rid of medium.

2) Also agree, that Stun kill points to scum probably not having it.

3) Don’t necessarily agree on that. I think Ank mentioned something about choosing medium, so if Titus never gave her a power, then scum wouldn’t have needed negate to kill her.

4) I think the hidden scum has a scummy power, maybe Duplication? since I really don’t see any evidence for PN. The hidden scum could have PN and never used it, Wezther, less likely and Duplication, quite likely. Why couldn’t scum be holding onto a power that gives them an extra vote in LYLO?

My problem with this, is if the hidden scum has precog, why would they fear Ank visit?