Open 205 - Medical Mafia - Game Over Too Soon?


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Open 205 - Medical Mafia - Game Over Too Soon?

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:06 pm

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The Players


mykonian
SaintKerrigan
Looker
Mindgamer
Phaen (replacing kyle99)
XScorpion
Light
Bio Hazard (replacing danny135)
Disco Roboto

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Doctor mykonian -
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Doctor Looker -
Weak Doctor

Doctor Mindgamer -
Nurse

Doctor XScorpion -
CPR Doctor

Doctor Phaen (replacing kyle99) -
Paranoid Doctor

Doctor Bio Hazard (replacing Doctor danny135) -
Naïve Doctor


The Dead

Doctor DiscoRoboto -
Mafia Goon
- Lynched Day 1
SaintKerrigan -
Normal Doctor
- Killed Night 1
Light -
Mafia Goon
- Killed Night 1

Current Status: Game Over
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:11 pm

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The Rules


1. Rules may be added, removed, or changed at my discretion.

2. If you do not post after 72 hours you will be prodded. You then have 48 hours to pick up the prod. If you do not pick it up after that time I will begin looking for a replacement. Weekends and holidays count towards your inactivity clock.

3. Deadlines for Days will be 3 weeks. Replacements may extend this deadline, as well as extenuating circumstances.

4. Voting must be made in the format
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. The colon is optional, as is the space between the colon and the player's name. Capital letters are also optional. Unvoting is not necessary but appreciated. Votes using abbreviations for player names, misspellings of player names, and even misspellings of abbreviations of player names will all be accepted as long as they meet the above conditions. Abbreviations of misspellings of player names will be treated as mere abbreviations. In the event that a vote is ambiguous however, it will not be counted, not even retroactively. You can vote to not lynch anyone, and the rules for that are the same as regular voting. Trick votes aren't allowed.

5. No invisible or small text (defined as "text I have to copy and paste to read").

6. To lynch you need a simple majority of votes, or 50% rounded down +1. Example: half of 9 rounded down is 4, add 1 and you get 5.

7. Discussing this game anywhere outside of the game thread itself is forbidden, unless you are specifically told otherwise in your role PM. Discussing other ongoing games in this thread is also forbidden.

8. Nights will normally last 72 hours.

9. If you die you get one contentless "bah" post. Note that if you reach the required majority needed for a lynch then you are immediately dead (i.e., claiming that your death scene hadn't yet been posted so you were allowed to keep posting content won't work). During Twilight (after lynch majority is reached/after deadline hits, before round ending scene) anyone who is alive may post content (but the lynchee doesn't count as alive).

10. Lynch majority will not be reduced at deadline. If a lynch majority is not reached at deadline, No Lynch will occur.

11. Don't quote PMs you get from me. Paraphrasing is your friend.

12. If you are going to be gone for 72 or more hours, say so in the thread, or PM me. This will put your inactivity clock on hold. Do not count on me checking the V/LA thread.

13. Don't intentionally lie about out of game circumstances to gain an advantage in the game.

14. Flavor is flavor, no story clues or anything.

15. My color for this game will be
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16. In the event that you are modkilled you will automatically lose, regardless of who wins. In other words, you'll become a Neutral Survivor.

17. Do not lie to me about things related to the game.

18. Vote counts will be done at the top of every page starting on page 2, edited in if necessary.

19. If I make a mistake, tell me.

20. If you have a question about the rules, just ask.

21.
And of course all basic game mechanics of a standard Mafia game apply, such as roles being revealed on death etc...
Doctor Sanity is not revealed on death! Everything else is normal.

22. Be considerate towards your fellow player. Excessive personal attacks will result in a warning, then forced replacement/modkill.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:24 pm

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The Setup


2
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1
Normal Doctor

1
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, who dies if (s)he targets a Mafia Goon.
1
CPR Doctor
, who kills his/her target if they are not the target of a night kill.
1
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, who kills his/her target instead of protecting them.
1
Naïve Doctor
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Nurse
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Note: Doctors are not aware of their sanity.

Doctors may not self-target.

Day Start

The Role PMs

Doctor PM wrote:You are a Doctor of questionable sanity. Each night you can target someone, and with any luck they'll be protected. But probably not. You win when all the Mafia have been eliminated and at least 1 Pro-Town player is still alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm in thread.
Nurse PM wrote:You are a Nurse, an assistant Doctor. You have no powers yet, but in the event that a Doctor dies you will become a Normal Doctor. You win when all the Mafia have been eliminated and at least 1 Pro-Town player is still alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm in thread.
Mafia Goon PM wrote:You are a Mafia Goon, and are a member of the Mafia with X, another Mafia Goon. You can talk to X at Night and also attempt to kill someone each Night. You win when all Pro-Town players have been eliminated (or nothing can prevent this) and at least one Pro-Mafia player is still alive.

The Game Thread is here. Please confirm in thread.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:29 pm

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Frequently Asked Questions


Q: If the Weak Doctor targets a Mafioso, but is targeted by the Normal Doctor, does the Weak Doctor die?
A: No.

Q: If the Weak Doctor targets a Mafioso, but is targeted by the CPR Doctor, does the Weak Doctor die?
A: Yes.

Q: If more killing roles than protective roles target someone, does the target die?
A: No.

Q: If a killing role, the CPR Doctor, and the Normal Doctor target someone, does the person die?
A: No.

Q: Does the Nurse assume the deceased Doctor's sanity?
A: No, the Nurse always becomes a Sane Doctor.

Q: If the Nurse becomes a Doctor and subsequently dies, is the role reveal "Doctor" or "Nurse"?
A: Nurse.

Answers are from farside22 herself.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:42 pm

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Opening

One of the many doctors looked around at the facility he was in. There was machinery everywhere, concoctions being brewed up. All part of an attempt to surpass a rival company.

Suddenly a man burst into the room. Saying something about how only 9 of you can stay. He lists the names, and thankfully one of them is yours.

The rest are carried out to be dumped elsewhere, their frothy contents all for naught.

Wait... what?

You heard me. And of course this all makes sense to you, you don't know why you're wondering. See as how you're all cans of soda made to compete with Dr. Pepper. But it seems some cans of Dr. Pepper have infiltrated your factory, and are contaminating all the soda! Worse yet, they're popping caps (see what I did there?) in your asses. Do cans have asses? An interesting philosophical question...
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:57 pm

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All roles have been randomized and sent out. Once everyone has confirmed Day 1 will begin. Mafia may talk until the start of Day 1.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:02 pm

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/conform
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:06 pm

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/confirm
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:58 pm

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are the rules for quack the same as for CPR when there is a protection?
can those doctors kill?
will the nurse become a normal doctor?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:08 pm

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mykonian wrote:are the rules for quack the same as for CPR when there is a protection?
can those doctors kill?
will the nurse become a normal doctor?
EBWOP can those doctors kill mafia?
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:28 pm

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/confirm
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:04 am

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/confirm
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:10 am

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/confirm
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:37 am

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and will the roles become known after a kill/lynch?

First idea I have is to have the night actions in a "circle", everybody using their action, thereby having 2 random kills, (quack and CPR) and a lynch, giving randomly the chance we win the game night 2:

2/9 * 1/7+2/9 * 6/7 * 1/7 + 7/9 * 2/7 * 1/7 is about: 70/450 = 1/6.5

There is also a small chance we lose, which is much smaller (estimated just below 2%), further the game has to be won with scumhunting and using the strong firepower the town has, together with a nurse claim (don't really know when that has to be).
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:52 am

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Confirmed.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:26 am

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/CONFORM!
Yes, I'm being a rebel by conforming. Take that!
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:10 pm

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XScorpion wrote:/CONFORM!
Yes, I'm being a rebel by conforming. Take that!
Conform or be cast out.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:07 pm

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mykonian wrote:are the rules for quack the same as for CPR when there is a protection?
can those doctors kill?
will the nurse become a normal doctor?
1. Will ask farside22.
2. Well yes, that's part of their role.
3. Yes, that's in the rules.
mykonian wrote:EBWOP can those doctors kill mafia?
Yes.
mykonian wrote:and will the roles become known after a kill/lynch?
The only role reveals will be "Mafia Goon" "Doctor" and "Nurse".
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:11 pm

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I'll start Day 1 tomorrow even if Looker isn't here.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:51 pm

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mykonian wrote:are the rules for quack the same as for CPR when there is a protection?
Could you be a bit more specific? If it helps, just try and think of the Quack as a vigilante.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:38 pm

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No need to start without me; the Doctor has arrived.

/confirm

@Mykonian: Good to see you in this game; here's to a town/doc victory.

@Kyle: Nice to see you again; here's to your inevitable success.


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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:43 pm

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Especially you, XScorpion
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:08 pm

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Agreed to some of mykonian's strat

However, i think we need to predict who the mafia are going to kill. Un-necessary losses will somewhat hurt our cause. We could essentially have 3 doctors die on us in one night, and that will greatly destroy our chances at winning.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:02 am

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probably, it will not. And since we have no way of telling who is going to be protected... We better lynch right today :)

And thank you mod.

I propose that I am going to make the order of the circle before the lynch, if we go with this plan
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:27 am

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Good luck / Have fun everyone.

Very interesting setup.

Well, it seems like our night strategy will be more important than our day discussion. :P

And that's why I'm calling Mykonian scum right now. His 'Great Plan' of doing the Night Actions in a circle pattern leads to an easy Mafia win.

We have nine players, player A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I. Let's say A and B are scum. Let's say the random circle will be E -> C -> A -> H -> I -> B -> F-> G -> D -> E.

The mafia know who the mafia and town are, so the doctors who will be 'protected' by the mafia won't be protected at all, so one of them will be killed by the mafia. The mafia now have a sure kill instead of a maybe kill. Additionally, the CPR Doctor and Quack Doctor will certainly kill because there are no other doctors protecting their victims. So, the next day we have three dead doctors. What a great strategy.

It's not flawless though. The CPR Doctor and the Quack Doctor can target the mafia so there's a chance both mafia will be killed by them. How to prevent this? By making sure that one of the mafia 'protects' the other mafia, so at least one of them will live. This requires that the circle is not random though, and this is where Mykonian's last post comes in, he requests in bold that he himself should make the circle. Mykonian wants to claim the circle so he can manipulate it.

Vote: Mykonian


For his mafia plan. Oh, and he's also trying to stop any discussion by suggesting that 'we better lynch right today'. Can he get any more scummy?
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