Mini 1000: The Brave and the Beautiful (Game Over)

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

The irony.

Every single character was a women, yet everyone who played the game was a male.

[ReaperCharlie]

Well, duh... of course!

... to be fair, though, Starbuck

was

on the waiting list.

[ReaperCharlie]

@Mod-
Very nice game, thanks for running/asking me to replace in.

Thanks. And you're welcome.

Thoughts on flavor:
-The flavor was really well written and made the game a lot more fun and interesting.

I hoped it would. I just didn't realize at first what a huge advantage it would give to town.

The game was originally not meant to be no-reveal, that was sort of changed on the fly.

-I realize now that I parsed the rapid fire ability wrong; I thought it simply meant I had a chance to hit-or-miss an additional target instead of a chance to miss [the original target] PLUS a chance to hit a different target.

The way I calculated your Rapid Fire ability was as follows:

-You had 2/3 chance of hitting your target, and 1/3 chance of missing. If hit, they would die like a normal vigkill.
--If you missed, you had 1/3 chance of hitting another target.
---If you missed that, then you missed altogether.
---But if you did hit that second target, that target was chosen randomly from the remaining living players, not counting yourself or your original target.

Thoughts on Balance:
-Overall the game felt pretty balanced, with slight advantage to town.

Any game where everyone is a PR is going to be slightly balanced to the town's favor, but scum really hit some bad breaks.

--Scum were pretty powerful, but so were town. Millar's D1 Zerg Rush was a gambit that could have gone really well for the scum team, but he used it on the wrong person.

For instance, this. If the wagon had been on anyone else besides Chun Li, Kerrigan's Zerg Rush would have killed her at L-1. Unfortunately, (L+1)-1 is the same as the normal lynch threshold, and Millar hit exactly the wrong person. If it had been anyone else, the game could have gone completely different.

-Millar's gambit could have been awesome, but his play after it failed just fell apart.

Yep. If he'd have kept a straight face about it all, they could have likely pushed another mislynch.

--The detailed game flavor was a huge boon for town. I guess it's a balance mechanism against the limited reveals and against the many chance to fail abilities; but ultimately it helped "confirm" each other and I think was a net benefit for town.

Ultimately, I agree. The flavor definitely gave quite a leg up to the town, which like I said earlier was why I decided late (just after Night 1 NAR) to make the flips delayed even longer than normal. So really, the Evil Ones were racing against time as much as they were against the town. In hindsight, I don't see myself doing it too much differently though, I think it added an interesting facet to the gameplay. I might try this gametype again in the future (but a little bit more on purpose next time).

--Game balance also kinda gave away Fur; if Iec hadn't hammered MoI, I was about to switch my position and hammer Fur myself based on setup/balance since scum would very much want/need a role cop in this setup. I just wasted time writing out my post and PMing it to the mod while I arranged my thoughts before actually going to post and just barely missed Iec's hammer.

Admittedly, that was one of the better breaks they got. I had a good laugh to myself when Iec ninja'd you and I locked the topic.

Thoughts to Town:
-Nicely played to town and especially Iec and Muffin/SSBF. Always awesome to see townies set aside their preconceptions when contrary information pops up; it doesn't happen anywhere near as often as it should.

I agree. The informational roles were played well. I laughed quite a bit when Muffin/SSBF's role tried TWICE to investigate Magna, but had their ability stolen on Night 2, and was blocked/framed by Morrigan on Night 3. Haha! That was another of scum's good breaks.

Thoughts to Scum:
-Most of the Fur hate is just hindsight complaints. Fur's "scummy" VI behavior was almost identical to Ythan's "scummy" VI behavior. The attacks of him being useless apply just as much to Robo's early play, if not more so. It's common to lots of players on this site.
--That's not to say he wasn't scummy at all, but he didn't do that terribly and people are giving him a way harder time than he deserves.

Furcolow's play could definitely use improvement, but there is nothing to show that he's not a good or useful player. He's extremely intimidating to me when I'm scum and he's town. Usually I hope I can get him mislynched as easy as possible. The sad part is that his main downfall is that his playstyle is condusive to early lynching. I'm not quite sure how he survived so long in this game, but I was proud of him for being the last scum alive, even after so many people were voting for him on day 1.

--However, the dropping to straight out insulting the players you disagree with is bad sportsmanship and really doesn't belong in any game (same for Ythan...). If nothing else, I'd strongly suggest not doing that anymore.
--Not sure how much of it was an act, but it would help to figure out your false claim and stick firmly with that even when you think you are going to be lynched. I've never seen changing your story when you get under pressure to be an effective defense.

You're right. That's a terrible defense, and will likely even persuade players who are fence-sitting to go ahead and lynch you, whereas they might not have otherwise. I think if Furcolow read these few posts, and brushes up on his play a bit, that he'll be much more effective in the future, whether as town OR scum.

-Kdub you played extremely similarly to the way you did in Avatar Mafia. That (+ process of elimination & game balance) gave you away. The active lurking thing seems to work pretty well for you when others don't have meta on it, but you may want to be a bit more active and/or bus harder next time.

I was utterly amazed at how strongly Kast had Kdub pegged, and how early. Before the end of Day 3 I received the following PM from Kast:

Kdub just has to be the role blocking sexy teenager. Everyone else has claimed something, and even if some of the claims aren't completely honest, I'd expect scum to still claim something somewhat related to their roles. Possible guesses Morrigan or Lilith. But dunno if this implicates Kdub as scum or not. If MoI is town and Fur is scum, then Kdub as a buddy is possible.

And then later, when I asked him if he meant to post that in the thread:

No, I like sharing my thoughts with whoever is modding. They usually get a good laugh. And when I guess right, it makes it awesome.

And further:

-It clicked that the Sexy Teenage Role-Blocker probably does RB+frame of target. Main candidate for that is Kdub.
--This means Netopalis really couldn't be scum.
---This also means MoI could be telling the truth (in which case, shame on you RB for screwing with the kill flavor).

And there is an explanation behind this. Cortana (an AI that only ever holographically manifests herself, never actually physically, cannot be shot to death. And so she was given the generic kill flavor of 'Destroyed'. Had it been anyone else, they would have been 'Shot' as well as Samus Aran was.

See also the Night 1 Flavor, which explains the situation in more detail.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

I have a suggestion on how to make the game more favorable toward scums in an all-PR game.

Give town a bad power role (Ex. Miller).

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

Also just remembered something. Day 4, MagnaofIllusion and Furcolow made an avatar bet that one of the two would have to change avatars for two months. In this case, it would be Furcolow since MagnaofIllusion flipped town.

[ReaperCharlie]

Oh you're right!! Furcolow owes Magna an avatar for 2 months. Magna, pick one for him!

[bv310]

I totally forgot about that. Pick a good one, Magna!

[Robocopter87]

Make it FRIKKIN HUMILIATING.

[MeMe]

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