Web of Trust - Game Over

[Kcdaspot]

nvm GG

[mykonian]

I would like to know if we were right about one.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Kit trusted? So it's over? Damn.

Well, I feel more confident about Kit in our Circle this time.

However, Kc's reaction was less than town.

[Kitoari]

Does that mean you were BSing?

LLD WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME.

[Tasky]

GAME OVER - VIRUS WIN

Congratulations to mykonian and Wingless.

I will post my comments on the game today or tomorrow.
Maybe I am going to mod another one, similar but a bit more balanced. Maybe there will be some special roles too.

More soon.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Grats guys xD

[mykonian]

oh, I'd love to see your notes.

What I want to know most: Zodiark, I'm pretty sure you didn't catch the most obvious scumtell I made: what made you think I was scum?

[mykonian]

I'm not scum. But successful gambit is successful. I just wish it wasn't YOU who showed up first. Would have been more useful to see KageLord react.

But, you're confirmed town now anyway xD

Yeah. That gambit was a little too obvious

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Well, it wasn't intended for you.

It was intended for Kit. :S

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And/Or Kagelord

[KageLord]

Damn... replace myk with JDGA or Zodiark in the web I suggested and it was a win.

Ah well, good game. I would hope the next one has some way to help town. >.>

[Kcdaspot]

it was myk??? WHAT???

[mykonian]

thank you kc you made my day.

[Kcdaspot]

evil bastard >:( but gg

[Zodiark13]

I can't believe it was myk. I was sure about Wingless, but myk was a surprise.

@myk... I forget why, but I did have a reason before.

[RedCoyote]

My two biggest non-virii. D:

[Tasky]

sorry to have let you waiting.
here my basic thoughts:

first, I expected much more scumhunting or at least townhunting from towns side in the first two phases. you basically started trusting randomly and ended the day quite randomly. I was a little disappointed by towns play, but I can understand that the game got a little uninteresting later on. maybe scumhunting early (with proxy-votes or similar) could have helped that.
second I'd like to talk a little about balance:
I calculated, that the probability for a successful WoT in the first four phases, assuming random webs is 36,45%
I thought that town could make up for that difference by scumhunting, aided by the logical helps from the exclusions/inclusions in the WoT's. I was wrong. first, I didn't consider that scum has a great power of "pushing" themselves into a WoT. As we saw in the beginning, mykonian and Wingless trusted early and basically stopped discussion easily. While it has to be said that they played well, it has to be considered.
Therefore I think a 45% town win with random play should be better, since there is comparatively more discussive power in scum's hands.
Also, the whole WoT - QT mechanic didn't come into game at all, I think the mechanic is to empty for now.

I am now working on a second version of a similar game, but I will try to:
1. make the game more balanced
2. use the WoT - WT mechanics more and encourage QT-talk
3. add some few sensible power roles. (of course here, since there are no deaths, I will have to be a little careful not to overpower the town.)

I don't know yet how many players the setup will be for, but I suspect it will be around 8 again and definitely not more than 10 (since people don't die, the game would drag with too much people.)
I will of course accept pre-ins.

I hope you enjoyed it despite the flaws the game contained and I hope to see you in Web of Trust 2

[mykonian]

Seriously, I loved the QT's. They formed my only scumtell. The way I used the QT's to buddy up to RC was obvious.