Are there often enough people to play either of those? I need to try sometime when I have the time (and experience, courage, etc heh).
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:13 pm
by Neruz
Dunno about scumchat, but in #mafia there's usually enough people to play most of the time, although there are periods of downtime typically while it's night\early morning in the US of A.
As a heads up though; mafia with XylBot is a bit different from on the forums, the biggest differences being often unreliable roles (and crazy setups) and no RVS, as most XylBot games start in mylo or lylo.
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:17 pm
by Ellyssa
Hehe, sounds insane and fun.
Thanks for the reply, I will check it out someday too.
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:31 pm
by RayFrost
Neruz wrote:Dunno about scumchat, but
in #mafia there's usually enough people to play most of the time, although there are periods of downtime typically while it's night\early morning in the US of A.
As a heads up though;
mafia with XylBot is a bit different from on the forums, the biggest differences being often unreliable roles (and crazy setups)
and no RVS, as
most XylBot games start in mylo or lylo.
Bolded: True. Also note that there are setups which are not really quite mafia (such as momir duel, the shoot out versions that I don't remember the name of, and raf) but are still reasonably enjoyable.
Underlined: Untrue. Large number games tend to not be in lylo.
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:06 pm
by Neruz
It's fairly uncommon to see games with more than 7 people, you don't get games with a free lynch (barring a scum death n0) until you have at least 8 and typically you're not 'safe' until 10 because XylBot loves it's third parties.
So my statement stands,
most
(not all) XylBot games are at mylo or lylo on the first day.
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:18 am
by Haylen
Protip: Don't use mibbit for irc.
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:51 am
by DeathRowKitty
Protip: Don't ribbit on irc.
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:56 am
by Xalxe
Haylen wrote:Protip: Don't use mibbit for irc.
PROTIP: Don't bash those who do.
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:10 am
by lane0168
but whats lylo or mylo?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:19 am
by Haylen
Me! wrote:
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:11 pm
by lane0168
why would 6 town 2 mafia be? mislynch, 5-2, after next night, 4-2. you still have 4 people that can vote for mafia. why would this be automatic mafia win? oh wait... lynch mafia, 4-1. after night 3-1, then lynch mafia. i dont see how its automatic mafia win if you mislynch at 6 town and 2 mafia...
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:12 pm
by lane0168
but i do understand, thank you for clarifications i guess i was confused cause neruz talked about xylbot starting in lylo or mylo, i'm assuming thats for extremely small games? or just weird setups? with like 6 town and 5 mafia
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:43 pm
by Neruz
Haylen made an error, 6:3 is mylo, 4:2 is mylo, she got the two mixed up
Alternately, 6 players, 2 of which are scum, is mylo.
All 'standard' Xylbot setups are night first (except in 3p) and it scales the number of scum to the number of players, you have 1 scum with up to 5 players, 2 scum with up to 11 and 3 scum appear at 12.
However
Xylbot loves it's third parties and will often throw in survivors, at 7p and up a mafia group and an SK is not uncommon, and once you get past 10p you'll often see multiple mafia groups, or three SK's or so on. Typically the only player numbers that don't have first day at lylo or mylo are 9p and anything above 12p. As most games are typically around 5 - 7 most games don't have free lynches unless something prevents the scum kill.
Of course, Xylbot has a lot of crazy roles and inane setups, so that does not always hold true.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:29 am
by Parama
A Xylbot setup that totally happens from time to time:
1 Townie
1 Survivor
1 Mafia Goon
d(''d)
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:16 am
by RayFrost
The trick there is to claim goon and have the survivor be the hammer.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:32 am
by Xalxe
RayFrost wrote:The trick there is to claim goon and have the survivor be the hammer.
The trick there is to be the survivor and quickclaim + hammer FTW.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:09 am
by Neruz
Parama wrote:A Xylbot setup that totally happens from time to time:
1 Townie
1 Survivor
1 Mafia Goon
d(''d)
This is why you don't play 3p,
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:05 am
by Parama
I don't. Unless absolutely nobody is there, which only seems to happen when I'm online <_<
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:43 pm
by DeathRowKitty
RayFrost wrote:The trick there is to claim goon and have the survivor be the hammer.
Most survivors will just hammer you if you do this.
As for mylo vs. lylo, to give a "simpler" definition, if there are n scum left, lylo happens with 2n+1 players left and mylo with 2n+2.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:44 pm
by Xalxe
ENOUGH IRC CHAT TAKE IT ELSEWHERE
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:37 am
by Vayre
Joined a while ago (nearly a year) but never really got anywhere due to busyness.
Returning to the forums now with more free time, so hi everybody =D
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:29 pm
by Ellyssa
Belated welcome! Your avatar is cute. What's the story behind your username? I know a friend who uses that name too but no idea where he got it from.
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:44 pm
by Haylen
Hello!
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:47 pm
by TheButtonmen
Vayre wrote:Joined a while ago (nearly a year) but never really got anywhere due to busyness.
Returning to the forums now with more free time, so hi everybody =D
So this is who you are!
If you haven't already you should join a newbie or two to get rid of the rust and get back into the hang of things before you wander off again.
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:43 pm
by MrZepher
I think I'm overdue for a post here.
You can call me Zeph or Z if you want to shorten my name...
FUN FACT:
I'm V/LA on weekends until the WGI season is over because I do indoor percussion with Dark Sky Percussion.
You should look into WGI and DCI. It's really cool music-related stuff.
