Web of Trust 2 - Phase 1

[SharkFinn]

untrust Zyconium

mainly cause now that there is "activity" since my vote, I have seen no one really to trust. thus, i unvote.

[Tasky]

*Has has used one Untrust.

[Zyrconium]

Heh, totally missed that those were limited...

Trust LLD

, most townie + I'm bored.

[Kcdaspot]

LLD Has stated that she doesn't want in a web. are you hoping to change her mind?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Apparently three people want to change my mind.

[Kcdaspot]

you're SO popular. lol

[Mafuyu]

Maybe three people want to put all their eggs in one basket.

[Kcdaspot]

maybe one of them is scum?

[Mafuyu]

Perhaps, but LLD isn't showing any signs of continuing the web (quite the opposite), so it's really functionally a dead wall to invest trusts in to LLD. Really, an early triple-trust only locks down LLD's options for moving forward.

[Kcdaspot]

I know so why so much pressure on her? Somethings up. all i'm sayin

[mykonian]

mod

I'd like to replace out.

[Kcdaspot]

meh aww myk...

[Tasky]

mod

I'd like to replace out.

got it. will get a replacement asap.

[Tasky]

mod

I'd like to replace out.

got it. will get a replacement asap.

ConSpiracy replaces mykonian, effective immediately. Thank you ConSpiracy.

[ConSpiracy]

Tasky, you're welcome.

To boom up activity I will post some strategies and some questions to every one.
But first, I have to finish some other things.

[Kcdaspot]

sup Conspiacy? who do you want to see in a web?

[ConSpiracy]

Ok guys, I have time. Let´s start booming!

At first I want to declare a web rule:

1. We must not trust before we fully made our web.

If we just trust every body, there is a chance we can't make our favourite web. That can harm us very much.

A second rule must be stated as well:

2. We may never leave a couple out twice.

This is very important. I will explain this with a game filled with the players 1,2...8.
1. The players 1 till 5 make a web that collapses.
2. At least one of those players is a virus.
3. We know that of the other 3 players there can be just 1 virus among them.
4. This means that the virusteam can't consist of 6-7, 6-8 and 7-8.
If we leave out one of those couples again in a next web, we will get less information if the web collapses.
There is 1 time we can ignore that rule:
1. We are very sure player 1 is a virus.
2. We are very sure either player 6 or 7 is the other virus.
Then we can choose to out both.

Last but not least a third one:

3. The first three webs are used to gather as much info as possible. The last one is for real.

If we want to form a web with some struggles, it would be smarter to do what is best for the last web. We have less chance to out both viruses in the first three webs, but we do gain much information from it. Limiting that information because we think a web to be virusfree is better to keep in mind in the last web.

Then I will start with some questions:
1. Have you played the first time?
1a. If yes, what is your analysis about it?
1b. If not, how do you think this game will work out?
2. What kind of special abilities did you think to be in this game before it started?
3. What do you think to be a good scum strategy to look out for?
What is better:
4. To form the web out of one

semi-

conf player or let the group decide?
5. To let out someone who is considered to be town and want to be out or to put him/her in the web?
6. Burgers or Hotdogs?
7. A townie or a scum role?

My answers:
1. Nope
1b. I think we should rely on us talking about the game rather than trusting seperate persons.
2. I immediately thought of a limited cop role. A role that as an example can send in three people and the mod will say that one of them isn't a virus. A power checker would be a possible one as well, he/she can check if certain powers are in the game. A neighborizer role seems a good one, too. I think those powers need certain triggers to be able to use them.
3. Right now I would say that viruses try to blend in groups that are formed.

4. I'd rather have the group decide who are in the web. If the conf. townie has someone else as town who is scum, we can't win. When the group decides the odds are better.
5. If he/she want to be out, let that happen. There must be a good reason for it. However, if it is the last web that may not happen! That means our chances to win drop significantly.
6. Burgers. Much more tastier.
7. I think I would like a townie role better in this game. There are a lot of things to figure out in this game that sets up a challenge.

At last I want everyone to make two lists.
The first list contains the 3 players you want in the web.
The second list contains 2 players you want to stay out of the web.
Both have to be in order of importance.

My in-web list:
1. Mafuyu - She is sheeped by two people who follow her in trusting LLD. I also think LLD to be town and with 2 following her to get into that web as well gives her townpoints. She also gives me a town feeling.
2. Zyrconium - Same as Mafuyu, sheeped by two people. To bad he himself was a sheep, too. Zyrc tried to get up conversations, too, which scum wouldn't be likely to do.
3. Kaleidoscope - Someone lurking like he does is different I expect a virus to lurk. Virusses would vote for someone. That, and all others have done some scummy things.

LLD seems town to me due to wanting to sit out. Viruses wouldn't do that, because that greatens the chance that the web won't collapse. I think there is a good reason for her to stay out, though, so let's leave her out. Too bad Kcdaspot did the same after reading LLD wants. Seems like he wanted to get the same townpoints as LLD got.

My out-web list:
1. Sharkfinn - When Zyrc trusted myk (me) Shark immediately tried to get into that small group.
2. JDGA - Same as with Sharkfinn, he wanted to get into the Mafuyu LLD group immediately after Mafuyu trusted LLD.

MrTrow gets the same as Shark and JDGA, although he did it a tad later. I also don't think MrTrow and Shark to be in the same scumgroup because they both sheeped on the same person. The same can be said about Mafuyu, JDGA and Zyrc. I rather have just one of those out of the web.

This was about every thing. Jeez what a long post. Now I am hoping every body not to replace out because I actually want them to do something.

[Kcdaspot]

1. Have you played the first time? Yes
1a. If yes, what is your analysis about it? Confusing, But it takes simpler logic than mafia

2. What kind of special abilities did you think to be in this game before it started? dayvig (lol) prolly something for a investigation or something
3. What do you think to be a good scum strategy to look out for? staying out then A title wave of IWANTINIWANTIN!!!
What is better:
4. To form the web out of one semi-conf player or let the group decide? The latter
5. To let out someone who is considered to be town and want to be out or to put him/her in the web? The former
6. Burgers or Hotdogs? The former
7. A townie or a scum role? WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM! (j/k) townie.

[Kcdaspot]

"Too bad Kcdaspot did the same after reading LLD wants. Seems like he wanted to get the same townpoints as LLD got."

So would it help if i was trusting like crazy?

[ConSpiracy]

Nope, therefore you are on the neutral side and not on the scumside.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I'm not sure how to start this shit off

[MrTrow]

@zirc: could you tell us what 'third option' you were talking about (as you`re clearly not handling according to what i think you meant)
Also

Heh, totally missed that those were limited...

Trust LLD

, most townie + I'm bored.

Seems strange: 'ow i should be more carefull about trusing, TRUST ......'

[Kcdaspot]

Oh hey this still exists...

[SharkFinn]

1. Have you played the first time?

YES

1a. If yes, what is your analysis about it?

This game needs more activity, as you said, the first few webs are to see what's going on

2. What kind of special abilities did you think to be in this game before it started?

investigative, possibly following throught the web

3. What do you think to be a good scum strategy to look out for?

Going complacently with plans/stopping good ones

What is better:
4. To form the web out of one semi-conf player or let the group decide?

Group

5. To let out someone who is considered to be town and want to be out or to put him/her in the web?

Depends on which web we are on. Leave him out in the first few webs, keep him in in the last ones

6. Burgers or Hotdogs?

Both. Im hungry know, dammit >_<.

7. A townie or a scum role?

Townie with a known trust coefficient

For your argument on me conspriacy, I bring up your argument that the first few webs are to gather as much information as possible. So the strategy I was going for was to form a web to go off of. Apparently, we never got to go through with it and then this game died. Im fine being left out of the first web, BUT i have been open about my role. I am town and coefficients f=1, h=2

[Mafuyu]

1. Have you played the first time?

Nope

2. What kind of special abilities did you think to be in this game before it started?

Trust-breakers, Firewalls

3. What do you think to be a good scum strategy to look out for?

Stifling play until frustrated town creates a haphazard web

What is better:
4. To form the web out of one semi-conf player or let the group decide?

Player-based

5. To let out someone who is considered to be town and want to be out or to put him/her in the web?

Circumstantial based on preceding evidence

6. Burgers or Hotdogs?

Seriously? Shish-kabobs

7. A townie or a scum role?

Townie