Open 279 - Rusty Guillotine Mafia - Game Over!

[crypto]

Ew, what a hideous misspelling of VPB's name.

Antitown faking a post restriction?

What do you make of this?

. . . Baltar's attempt seems in deed a bit strange.

Define "strange." Town or scum or what?

[VP Baltar]

@VP Balter and @Concission, how does disagreement over Mafia theory justify a vote?

Wasn't a vote over theory. Concission seems to think that me only asking you a question is scummy because I'm 'faking' scumhunting, or whatever. It's a pretty bunk reason that he seems serious about...therefore I questioned the sincerity of what he was saying with my vote.

[VP Baltar]

she, her...sorry concission

[Shadow Dancer]

I hope that was rather a joke on both our parts, because I do not really expect Anti to postz in that style when the game becomes more serious.

Strange like likely not the best way to start a discussion since it wholy depends on one player (i.e. you) to answer a question that is not player specific. I was wondering why he would specifically ask you.

[Shadow Dancer]

Hmm... Now that some one metioned it I just realized it seems to be missing in the rules - whoever is on the guillotine loses his/her vote?

@Baltar: So now after Crypto has answered: What did his answer tell you about his allignment?

[crypto]

Strange like likely not the best way to start a discussion since it wholy depends on one player (i.e. you) to answer a question that is not player specific. I was wondering why he would specifically ask you.

Again. Town? Scum? Or what?

[VP Baltar]

It tells me he is mildly thinking about the setup, which is what I wanted to know. Hence why I asked. What does that tell you about my alignment? Also, why do you keep ignoring my question? Why were you asking me about the line-up, which I presume to mean players in this game, when I was asking about the setup?

[crypto]

16. Is it bigger than a breadbasket?

[Shadow Dancer]

@Baltar: I am not ignoring your question, I just did not understand it first. By "lineup" I meant "setup" ;\ My bad.
Of course Crypto is thinking about the setup - you asked him to do so. But how do you consider asking him about the setup scum-hunting?

@Crypto: Seriously: No idea. I am trying to find out what he was up to.
I don't understand your last post...

[VP Baltar]

See, I really don't like explaining my motives to people because they completely destroy any sort of use from that scum hunting tool, but regardless I will now so we can move on because this discussion is useless.

My thought process in grand detail was

1) Crypto is a good player who is around
2) I would like to find out crypto's alignment early so I know if I can trust him or not. Town alliance ftw.
3) Town players are more likely to be thinking about how this setup can best be approached in the early stages of the game.
4) Scum are less likely to be concerned with the setup at this point, as they will be scum scumming and trying to get NKs day one so they can get to their precious night QT.
5) Ask crypto about setup to see if he is actually thinking about it or not.

That's ruined now, so the least you can do is vote Concission as recompense.

[hitogoroshi]

Hmm... Now that some one metioned it I just realized it seems to be missing in the rules - whoever is on the guillotine loses his/her vote?

No, they do not. I don't know where crypto drew that, but you definitely do vote as normal the day you're on guillotine. Note that this "bumps LYLO up a day", in effect. If there are 9 living players total and three of them are scum with a non-scum on guillotine, and they place a townie on guillotine that day, I would then call the game for the scum.

[AlmasterGM]

@VBP: Is what Concession did scummy?

[Shadow Dancer]

5) Kinda defies the purpose, don't you think. If you asked him and only him specifically he'd of course think about the setup...
So I don't really agree with the validity of that as a scum-hunting tactic, but I agree that this discussion looks like going nowhere.
But talking about the setup - as understand it something similar has already been done. Was any one in that game and can tell a bit how that on played out, especially the lynch mechanic?

@Hito: Thanks for clearing that up.

@Alma: The right question is: Do you consider it scummy?

[AlmasterGM]

I disagree. I already know what I think, I want to know what VPB thinks.

[crypto]

Hmm... Now that some one metioned it I just realized it seems to be missing in the rules - whoever is on the guillotine loses his/her vote?

No, they do not. I don't know where crypto drew that, but you definitely do vote as normal the day you're on guillotine. Note that this "bumps LYLO up a day", in effect. If there are 9 living players total and three of them are scum with a non-scum on guillotine, and they place a townie on guillotine that day, I would then call the game for the scum.

Er, I meant prohibition to post other than a vote. My bad.

I don't understand your last post...

Sorry, I thought we were playing Twenty Questions.

[Fate]

Players on the guillotine can't talk, only vote?

Lame.

[Fate]

Unvote:
Vote: Antitown

Scum:
Antitown
Percy
RedCoyote

[AlmasterGM]

I'm pretty sure you can still post while on the guillotine.

[crypto]

4) Scum are less likely to be concerned with the setup at this point, as they will be scum scumming and trying to get NKs day one so they can get to their precious night QT.

I think you may be seriously underestimating the competence of the Mafia and the amount of time and effort it really takes to diagnose a small and relatively simple open setup.

[Fate]

I'm pretty sure you can still post while on the guillotine.

The prohibition of players on the guillotine to vote. I'm wondering if the mod would allow basic forms of communication via customization of the vote text; e.g., an underlined vote represents a town read, a capitalized vote represents a scum read, an italicized vote urges a return of attention to the voted player's last post.

?

[crypto]

God fucking damn it. I was under the impression from the wiki that the player on the guillotine could vote but not post but looking back at Hitorogoshi's activity rule it looks like he can post, too.

@Mod, the on-guillotine player can both post and vote, confirm or deny.

Sorry about this. I feel so illiterate.

[crypto]

In fact, just . . . don't even answer that question. Jesus Christ.

[Fate]

It really defeats the purpose of both the Redeemed townie AND scum's ability to fuck with town, aka the mechanic AS A WHOLE if they can only vote.

[Shadow Dancer]

...OK... O_o

[Fate]

I hate it when Shadow Dancer is town.

Mislynch fodder ahoy.