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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:00 pm

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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:12 pm

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I won both of those in 2008.
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:18 pm

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In post 1401, Magua wrote:I won both of those in 2008.


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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:16 pm

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If AV doesn't win Smooth Operator I will be shocked and upset.
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:42 am

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I would be neither, considering everyone nominated seems to have done a good job of running their games. (I thought ooba did a great job with test of faith in particular)
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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:09 pm

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Nominate warriormode for Most Cunning Manipulation for SMBMII: Defense of Yoshi's Island


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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:40 pm

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no.

him living over 4-5 days was a huge oversight that town made.
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:42 pm

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Have we had a most cunning manipulation or best scum team nomination in the past 4 months where it wasn't immediately followed by someone bitching about how it wasn't the scum's good play, it was town's bad play?

It makes me want to knee jerk second the nomination despite not having any idea about it.
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:43 pm

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In post 1407, zoraster wrote:Have we had a most cunning manipulation or best scum team nomination in the past 4 months where it wasn't immediately followed by someone bitching about how it wasn't the scum's good play, it was town's bad play?

It makes me want to knee jerk second the nomination despite not having any idea about it.

Hey! That sounds like that topic we recently discussed on the radio show!
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:45 pm

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In post 1406, Matias wrote:no.

him living over 4-5 days was a huge oversight that town made.



You know what? Screw it. Usurper win? Sticking it to "town made a mistake" bitchers? Yes please.

2nd the warriormode nomination
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:35 pm

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you'd be a little pissed when someone who was "obvtown" lived through 5 days without getting nightkilled

especially after you turned a lynch around to lynch someone else who was "obvtown" and turned out to be a mafia jack of all trades.

i.e: I know what I'm talking about
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:40 pm

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Your argument for why he doesn't deserve is that he looked too town?
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:44 pm

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he was "confirmed/obv town" and lived 5 days while less townish people got killed over the last few days and NO ONE even bothered to look until the final day. even then, kdaspot pissed it away within an hour.
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:51 pm

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basically: in a nutshell, not a single townie did efficient night kill analysis. I'd say that IS bad town play, but if you want to chalk this up to a "trend", be my guest, but I think he won't win the manipulation scummy. nothing against him, but he's GOOD, not amazing.
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:55 pm

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In post 1411, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Your argument for why he doesn't deserve is that he looked too town?
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:07 pm

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Third warriormode


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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:27 pm

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In post 1414, Magua wrote:
In post 1411, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Your argument for why he doesn't deserve is that he looked too town?


yes, lets just blatantly ignore that I just said town did no nightkill analysis.
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:27 pm

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of course, you guys were part of the game and everything so feel free to tell me that I'm wrong.
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:21 am

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Let the judges fight it out.
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:54 am

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In post 1408, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1407, zoraster wrote:Have we had a most cunning manipulation or best scum team nomination in the past 4 months where it wasn't immediately followed by someone bitching about how it wasn't the scum's good play, it was town's bad play?

It makes me want to knee jerk second the nomination despite not having any idea about it.

Hey! That sounds like that topic we recently discussed on the radio show!


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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:38 am

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4th'd for warriormode
. Was following that game since day 2 or 3, mostly because I was interested in seeing how the setup worked, but warrior pulled out a 1 vs 8 to win the game. Definitely worth a nomination.
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:45 am

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@ scummies, you can remove my self nom :D
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:08 am

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In post 1417, Matias wrote:of course, you guys were part of the game and everything so feel free to tell me that I'm wrong.

you think being part of the game gives you a better position to judge his play than a neutral observer who's read the thread?
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:08 am

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In post 1422, Faraday wrote:
In post 1417, Matias wrote:of course, you guys were part of the game and everything so feel free to tell me that I'm wrong.

you think being part of the game gives you a better position to judge his play than a neutral observer who's read the thread?


It certainly doesn't give me LESS of a position to judge his play, which is how I feel people are treating my opinion on the case
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:13 am

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so, whatever. my point is, just because it's an "lolusurper win" doesn't mean he played amazingly.

town made a huge oversight. warriormode looked obvious or confirmed town, yes. HOWEVER, he lived until 3 man lylo and they STILL didn't see anything -wrong- with that.

you can chalk that up to amazing scum play if you want or realize that town fucked things up majorly. as I said in the thread, had I not actually convinced them that diddin was scum before I was nightkilled, warriormode probably wouldn't have even GOTTEN the usurper win since I doubt they would have factored in diddin's "obvtownness" in with the nightkill choices. warriormode sailed by and not a single townie questioned why he was living day by day when people like WLC, hiplop, manho and chkflip were dying. that's 4 nightkills after warriormode SHOULD have died (i.e: his faceoff with vifam).

Oh and the ONLY reason that he looked obvtown is because he played off of vifam's claim again him. it -fell into- his lap. I'm not sure if that was intentional or not. if it was not intentional, then vifam is a derp and warrior did nothing. if it was intentional, you guys should be praising vifam, which you are failing to do.
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