TV Mafia Game Over - Scum Win

[Leonshade]

Vote: David Xanatos

French people are harmless: check about every war they ever "fought" in.

Vote: Rodion

for not knowing his history.

No mass name-claiming, that would be absolutely pointless.

[ThAdmiral]

vote: andrew

is

always

scum in the games I'm (and always wins...). Must kill with fire now!

[easjo682]

/confirm

I'm against a character claim for now, I can't see it helping town so there's no point.

[Pine]

/confirm, sorry for the delay. I'll catch up over lunch

[MagnaofIllusion]

I can't think of anything

VOTE: Vezok

My understanding is that you have just joined MS from another site after the ‘challenge’ thread in MD. Is this understanding correct?

If so do you have previous interactions or knowledge of Vezok elsewhere?

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VOTE: Easjo i replaced him in another game

Good-posting. Easjo will lurk pointlessly in this game until flaking.

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Unvote: Chevre
Vote: ThreeIsFrench

First rule of society. Never trust the Frenchies.

So, please elaborate on why you preferred this vote to Vezok after being specifically invited.

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Why are people pushing the vezok lynch?

Why didn’t you place some sort of RVS stage vote?

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On vezok: I agree that a mass nameclaim is neutral at best for town and it consequently should not be done. I don't think his request warrants a speedlynch, though (I don't know whether people are serious about it or it is just part of the jokevote stage),

but a pressure for him to fullclaim seems good.

In regards to the bolded … um whut????

UNVOTE: Vezok
VOTE: Rodion

Why, if you think pressuing him to fullclaim (which is a scumtastic idea in RVS) is a good plan did you vote DX?

[jasonT1981]

Pvt Slate has decided to stay in the game. no replacement needed.

[Vifam]

How does that make name claiming non-optimal play? If it's not the standard Good vs Bad Guy scenario, what is the problem?

Trying to guess out the PR's in the town. For instance, House M.D. (if used) would more likely than not be a doctor or some saving role. To fit the character.

No real way to outguess the mod when it comes to PR powers. House M.D could also be a shrink or something, right? I always thought there was some kind of psychology in that show.



Although, that contradicts what I said in my earlier posts, but if it isn't Good guy vs Bad Guy, it's anyone guess.


Anyway, I agree with MoI, we are 4 pages in and you're ready for a fullclaim? No way man.



VOTE: Rodian

[Vifam]

How does that make name claiming non-optimal play? If it's not the standard Good vs Bad Guy scenario, what is the problem?

Trying to guess out the PR's in the town. For instance, House M.D. (if used) would more likely than not be a doctor or some saving role. To fit the character.

That is complete bulshit.

Last game every single role was randomized. Spider man was a neighbourizer.

I suggest a mass name claim because it starts discussion because I like to be in character.

It has started discussion, probably not the discussion you are going for, but discussion none the less, so your objective has already been reached, right?

[marco1610]

Why are people pushing the vezok lynch?

Why didn’t you place some sort of RVS stage vote?

Because we have lots of time left. My question was rhetorical, by the way.

[jasonT1981]

Day 1 Vote count 1

Rodion 3 - Leonshade, MOI,Vifam
Vezo 3 - CHKBallin, ZeL1nk, KillerJester
Andrew 2 - Silver, THAdmiral
ThAdmiral 1 - Chevre
3isFrench, 1 - DXantos
EasJo 1 - 3isFrench
David Xantos 1 - Rodion
Silver 1 - Andrew

With 27 alive it takes 14 to lynch with a deadline of 12thAugust 12pm EST

[Zinger2099]

Earl Hickey present.

[Vifam]

Why are people pushing the vezok lynch?

Why didn’t you place some sort of RVS stage vote?

Because we have lots of time left. My question was rhetorical, by the way.

I don't understand...you didn't want to RVS in a 27 man game because you were afraid we are gonna lynch?


lol?

[marco1610]

Why are people pushing the vezok lynch?

Why didn’t you place some sort of RVS stage vote?

Because we have lots of time left. My question was rhetorical, by the way.

I don't understand...you didn't want to RVS in a 27 man game because you were afraid we are gonna lynch?


lol?

I do not understand the confusion. I didn't feel like RNGing a vote because I'm quite lazy and I didn't feel like voting for the first person I see because I know none of you. What's the harm in waiting? I'm not afraid of lynching people, I just didn't bother with voting yet.

[Vifam]

Why are people pushing the vezok lynch?

Why didn’t you place some sort of RVS stage vote?

Because we have lots of time left. My question was rhetorical, by the way.

I don't understand...you didn't want to RVS in a 27 man game because you were afraid we are gonna lynch?


lol?

I do not understand the confusion. I didn't feel like RNGing a vote because I'm quite lazy and I didn't feel like voting for the first person I see because I know none of you. What's the harm in waiting? I'm not afraid of lynching people, I just didn't bother with voting yet.

Seems like you're falling back on your newbiness to me, but eh, W/E, you're a null tell right now.

[marco1610]

Why didn’t you place some sort of RVS stage vote?

Because we have lots of time left. My question was rhetorical, by the way.

I don't understand...you didn't want to RVS in a 27 man game because you were afraid we are gonna lynch?


lol?

I do not understand the confusion. I didn't feel like RNGing a vote because I'm quite lazy and I didn't feel like voting for the first person I see because I know none of you. What's the harm in waiting? I'm not afraid of lynching people, I just didn't bother with voting yet.

Seems like you're falling back on your newbiness to me, but eh, W/E, you're a null tell right now.

I'm new to mafiascum, not mafia itself. How am I falling back on my newbieness? I merely said I know none of you guys and hence didn't bother with placing an RVS vote when there's no hurry.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Stop quote pyramiding please. There's no reason to have a five deep quote for a response that is basically two lines long.

And more Rod vote would also be great!

[Vifam]

Not knowing people isn't really an excuse not to participate in a RVS.

[marco1610]

Not knowing people isn't really an excuse not to participate in a RVS.

I didn't give an excuse. I gave reasons.

VOTE: Vifam

Is that better?

[Vifam]

No, trust me, those were excuses. It's the RVS stage, and not knowing people is *Not* a legitimate reason, at all. It's important to apply pressure to the players around you, you're "reason" is anti town.

[Vifam]

And yeah, that's a little better, although misplaced, I'd rather you vote Rod.

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Pine

[Rodion]

On vezok: I agree that a mass nameclaim is neutral at best for town and it consequently should not be done. I don't think his request warrants a speedlynch, though (I don't know whether people are serious about it or it is just part of the jokevote stage),

but a pressure for him to fullclaim seems good.

In regards to the bolded … um whut????

UNVOTE: Vezok
VOTE: Rodion

Why, if you think pressuing him to fullclaim (which is a scumtastic idea in RVS) is a good plan did you vote DX?

DX vote was a textbook jokevote.

Talking about vezok is my opinion on why he shouldn't be speedlynched for merely suggesting a mass nameclaim. Moreover, the suggestion that he fullclaims is a way to deter that idea. Even if you think he is scummy, why go for a speedlynch before hearing him claim (I see no pro-town reasoning behind this idea)? I said this because of this post:

VOTE: vezok

Name one thing anti-town about a quick lynch on vezok before he's able to post.

This is my first non-marathon game on this site and I don't know any of you. I was not sure whether you were seriously planning to speedlynch vezok or not.

Wait, vezok suggested it? I didn't even realise that. It also has nothing to do with why a vezok wagon is a good thing.

There is one pro-town reason I can think of that a vezok wagon doesn't need to happen, though... andrew is in this game. And an andrew wagon is just as good.

I'm conflicted now.

Now it seems that it WAS a joke. That means people are not seriously considering to kill him so quickly. Consequently, the fullclaim idea as a necessary step before the lynch, while still a valid point, can go to the backburner as we continue looking for more leads.

Magna/Vifam - careful there, as leading mislynches against new players that theoretically shouldn't know how to defend themselves properly is considered a scum tell where I come from.

Unvote.

[marco1610]

No, trust me, those were excuses. It's the RVS stage, and not knowing people is *Not* a legitimate reason, at all. It's important to apply pressure to the players around you, you're "reason" is anti town.

You are trying to misdirect anyone reading our back and forth. Implying that I refused to vote. Almost seems like you're trying to implicate me without actual evidence.

And yeah, that's a little better, although misplaced, I'd rather you vote Rod.

I think I'll keep my vote on you for now. Considering the trick you're trying to pull.

[Pappums Leather Jacket]

VOTE: vezok

RVS Wagon go.

Also you have dared to challenge the ultimate coolness of my character. You must die.

(My bold)- Why do you feel the need to label your vote as being on an RVS wagon? I think it is quite clear, considering this was the second vote of the game, that we were still in RVS. There is no reason why a townie would have to make it so clear that their vote is a RVS vote. This looks to me like you are trying to distance yourself from the wagon if it were to result in a lynch on vezok.

On vezok: I agree that a mass nameclaim is neutral at best for town and it consequently should not be done. I don't think his request warrants a speedlynch, though (I don't know whether people are serious about it or it is just part of the jokevote stage),

but a pressure for him to fullclaim seems good.

In regards to the bolded … um whut????

UNVOTE: Vezok
VOTE: Rodion

Why, if you think pressuing him to fullclaim (which is a scumtastic idea in RVS) is a good plan did you vote DX?

You may want to look at Rodion's join date, he is clearly new to MS.net and is obviously new to the way we do things here. I expect better than this from townMoI. It appears to me that you are grasping at straws in an attempt to get a real wagon going since a vezok policy lynch is not going to happen (which I think is what you were hoping for).

Vote: MoI

How does that make name claiming non-optimal play? If it's not the standard Good vs Bad Guy scenario, what is the problem?

Trying to guess out the PR's in the town. For instance, House M.D. (if used) would more likely than not be a doctor or some saving role. To fit the character.

That is complete bulshit.

Last game every single role was randomized.

Spider man was a neighbourizer.

I suggest a mass name claim because it starts discussion because I like to be in character.

(My bold)- Friendly

neighborhood

Spiderman. I dont think that all roles were entirely random, and I think that a mass nameclaim is a bad idea for reasons that have already been given. That said, everyone lets stop with the discussion of one. Town gains nothing from it, and scum could pick something up from it.

Earl Hickey present.

U_U

[Vifam]

No, trust me, those were excuses. It's the RVS stage, and not knowing people is *Not* a legitimate reason, at all. It's important to apply pressure to the players around you, you're "reason" is anti town.

You are trying to misdirect anyone reading our back and forth. Implying that I refused to vote. Almost seems like you're trying to implicate me without actual evidence.

And yeah, that's a little better, although misplaced, I'd rather you vote Rod.

I think I'll keep my vote on you for now. Considering the trick you're trying to pull.

I'm not trying to "implicate" anything, your reason for not participating in the RVS is NOT valid, that's all I'm trying to say. Understand now? You are overreacting, there would be no backlash from you voting in the RVS stage, I'm just telling you there was no reason to really hold back.

@Rod


You know, we are four pages in now, and I doubt that you think we'd come to a lynch before the day had officially started. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I've made the same mistake.

UNVOTE: