Mini 1234: Masquerade Mafia [Game Over]

[Rainbowdash]

This has to be one of the most awesome games I have ever been a part of, and thats saying something.

Far better drawing than I can do though, mine more look like Ditzy Doo after a sugar high due to way too many

cupcakes

muffins

[Whiskers]

Oldish Pic.

I'll make something special, just for us.

[Whiskers]

Still, I wonder if we should have just lynched ThAdmiral and asked everypony to Vote: Friendship...

[Charlie]

I'll make something special, just for us.

Aw, you don't have to.

[Rainbowdash]

I'll make something special, just for us.

Im going to count that one as special to me since I drink Black Tea in the morning (please no shipping jokes), and im probably just looking to talk since ive been enjoying that hard apple cider with or without AJ so am all chatty. If it was you *brohoof* though, I thought I was the only pony who writes in all capitals.

[Whiskers]

Let's delve deeper into rainbow philosophy
Far beyond that of Cloudsdale's mythology
It's easy to misjudge that floating city
With it's alluring decor and social psychology.

But with all great things comes a great responsibility,
That of Cloudsdale's being weather stability.
How, you ask, are they up to the task?
The answer to which is in a simple facility.

[Rainbowdash]

Again you keep on making rhymes
Which ive tried to get a thousand times
But I cant ever get what you mean
something something rhymes with mean

who is your top pick for scum
incase im the only one here for the day to come
if im not here its still applejack
back in high school I

ran

flew track

~Drunken Pony Lauriet

[Charlie]

I know those verses Whiskers had been spewing this while... they're from a long-plot rap song/story that depicts a certain pink mare's slow decent into insanity. It's been floating on the ponyweb for a good while now, so why are you sharing this particular piece of... psychology?

[Whiskers]

In the Rainbow Factory,
Where your fears and horrors come true.

In the Rainbow Factory,
Where not a single soul gets through.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRx_iXgLAyw

[ThAdmiral]

If we (town) win this game I'll change my avatar to a pony for a month.

[ThAdmiral]

Note: I've never changed my avatar before so that would be a big deal to me. This game really has been enjoyable.

[Applejack]

Ah, I think I know now
How tonight's dominoes will fall
For the wine needs a good sow
Before Discord can have a ball

Though it pains me that a good pony
Has against me turned and exile cast,
Perhaps it is fate, that old crony,
That I should atone for a sin done past

But Applejack has never been one
To allow herself to be by Fate led
No matter which road Discord thinks he's won
Truth is as invincible as it is red

If we (town) win this game I'll change my avatar to a pony for a month.

If you're town, I'm changing my main's avatar to a facepalm for a month.

[Applejack]

ThAdmiral, ThAdmiral, do you think you can run
From the truth that has become so plain in the sun
The light of glory once cast by the fair Princess
Whose follies will be your curse and my bless

Using an avatar bet to make your case
While every pony is gathered in a round pace
Are you so desperate that you cannot argue now
For tomorrow's lynch of Applejack that you must vow

Waiting until an honest pony is dead
Is that really your only way to be ahead
Today, tomorrow, it should make no difference
For the honest truth is not aligned with silence

[Applejack]

Yeah, okay, that's getting annoying for me to type, so no more verses from me.

ThAdmiral, get in here and fight with me. I have no qualms about picking fights in front of a crowd, and neither should you. Hide not behind the power of a Night kill, for that is the coward's way; if you really have a case against me as you'd like the other townie to believe tomorrow, make it now. Start by saying how utter horseapples my case against you is, you know you didn't just slip that either you or Charlie blocked Beck last Night. Start by arguing why I as scum would benefit from bussing Charlie today rather than lynching you outright today for the win today.

It's been a while since I used my trump card. I want to use it. Give me a reason to use it, ThAdmiral. I itch for a good round of hoof wrestling.

[Charlie]

Go to bed, Applejack.

[Applejack]

But it's not bedtime yet.

[Charlie]

Touché.

[ThAdmiral]

ThAdmiral, get in here and fight with me.

k

Start by saying how utter horseapples my case against you is

Your case against me is utter horseapples.

you know you didn't just slip that either you or Charlie blocked Beck last Night.

No I didn't block beck last night. Even if I somehow did block beck why would I then automatically know he didn't shoot. If anything I would have assumed he did shoot?

Start by arguing why I as scum would benefit from bussing Charlie today rather than lynching you outright today for the win today.

Because you knew rainbowdash wasn't budging and figured whiskers was coming around as well and tried to gain as much towncred as you could going in to tomorrow.

[Applejack]

you know you didn't just slip that either you or Charlie blocked Beck last Night.

No I didn't block beck last night. Even if I somehow did block beck why would I then automatically know he didn't shoot. If anything I would have assumed he did shoot?

Okay, then that was Charlie? Sweet! Seriously, though, your original post didn't say you knew he didn't shoot. Before you respond to my case with a half-assed response, I suggest going back to the thing where I QUOTED YOU for Whisker's benefit. It would make me a lot less angry to lose to you if you put some effort into this. Or you could continue being scummy and hand this game to town... that'd make me a happy pony.

Start by arguing why I as scum would benefit from bussing Charlie today rather than lynching you outright today for the win today.

Because you knew rainbowdash wasn't budging and figured whiskers was coming around as well and tried to gain as much towncred as you could going in to tomorrow.

Why would I need town cred when I could have won the fucking game today instead?

[Charlie]

I'm thinking of something witty to say...

[Applejack]

You're probably going to go back with, "Because you'd have a harder time convincing Whiskers to lynch me," let me remind you of two things:

1) Whiskers was already leaning towards lynching you. It would have taken me a lot less effort to get you lynched first; if I were scum, this would have won me the game on Day 4, so the notion of me "getting town cred" is silly.

2) My case on you was, and is, much stronger than it is on Charlie. All I had on Charlie was a couple of posts from him that looked strange compared to his other games, that he wasn't being as passionate in arguing with you as he should have been in a 1:1 LyLo, and that you two had to be cross-bussing. Eventually, I admitted I had nothing on Charlie. On you, though, I had evidence.

[Whiskers]

Why would I need town cred when I could have won the fucking game today instead?

Point taken.


Wondering if I'll be left alive.

Rainbowdash, what do you have to say to this?

Also, for the comic, ThAdmiral is getting his avatar drawn.

[Whiskers]

So! After an

almost

continuous 8 day (give or take a day) of the game pausing for Night phase, I admit that I've lost some of my bearings for this game. I'm sure at least one of you feel the same way:

Btw I forgot charlie was playing. My scum reads are guthrie/miss beauty and charlie, mainly by POE.
<snip>
...but then again I forgot about charlie. In fact...

unvote

vote: charlie

I might mention that I believe that the Process of Elimination (POE) method of scumhunting is a tried and proven method to work and I advocate it's use. Unfortunately that vote is misplaced.
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Let me refresh my mind by doing ISO-ing myself. I do post my notes in-thread for myself, you know!

Let's see ISO#16, my old list:
Hmm, let's add some colour & commentary to this list!

My Little Listy: Town to Mafia

1. GLaDOS (honory for D1)
2. ThAdmiral
3.

Albert B. Rampage

Yay, I'm correct

4.

tarsonisocelot

Doh

5.

subgenius

6. Rainbowdash
7. Guthrie
8.

theamatuer

9.

monk

10. Beck
11.

malpascp

(Policy lynch: Lynch all Lurkers)

Derp

12. Whiskers (Playstyle, anti-wincon, vote patterns. Caveat: GLaDOS Townread on Whiskers)

The following is a

stream of consciousness

that may or may not make sense because it's basically

trying to explain my gut reads

. Don't misrep!
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Ah, I remember GLaDOS was a Town read because of meta: same here, same then. However between Whiskers & Beck & some other people posting stuff & stuff & stuff in thread making the game move at breakneck speed, I feel that this read gradually diminishes into a null read because the level of goodposting gets diluted. Make sense? Yes. Yes it does.
*GLaDOS is likely Mafia until the level of goodposting increases to match.

Y

/N
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I've mentioned that Rainbowdash was difficult to read... yes, it's all true.. so I opted a very different and (arguably) unusual method: I did a search post by user and actually read her stuff (it's still meta). The end result I see is a more passive pony playstyle which is very odd. I can't discuss ongoing games but I did quiz her in ISO#17 about a completed one. Didn't really get anything from that.
*Rainbowdash is likely Mafia because she failed to out-talk the talk in this fast game i.e. one would expect more stuff from her when she just falls short.

Y

/N
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ThAdmiral.... I remember him as the "catch-up" guy. I liked those catch-up posts, because Activity is Magic. Unfortunately the reality of the situation puts him at a null read. He ends up using the POE method to scumhunt (albeit wrongly; in terms of the result)
*ThAdmiral is a null read who ends up placing a vote on me which holds no water... Mafia? Y/

N

(Doesn't feel like it & I can't conclude anything based on what he has posted. Maybe I need to reread? Y/

N

)
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Whiskers! This individual I do have a serious bone to pick with because he basically

lied to himself

. Did you or did you not once said something along the lines of "I do not use <

insert bad word here

> readily" or something similar along those lines? Did you or did you not repeat it at least twice in the last few pages? Yes, yes you did. This isn't good because if you're lying to yourself then there is no telling what you're doing to anypony else. Ergo, you

canno

t be trusted. Granted, Beck also was in the frenzy of words but there is something about this exchange that is weird. Let me try to rationalize...

Whiskers said he isn't normally behaving like

this

(read: use of foul language)
Only way he would be is when he gets emotional, right.
Well then where is the breaking point in the thread? I don't see anything that warrants its use...
So...
LIES.
But wait! Have I seen such a deception before?
Hmm...
Yes. I remember mentioning that playstyle shift thing and even voted him for that. I hold it to be true, even though what ThAdmiral said as a counterpoint remains to be true.

So, does this explain things swimmingly? No? Then forget it, my gut says Whiskers isn't Town
*Whiskers is scum because of behavior I find erratic. But the VCA I did says the opposite. This means there is a conflict between my logic side of my brain and the gut side of.... waitaminute. This is ridiculous. Anyway. When this problem occurs, I'd normally go with gut read. Whiskers is Mafia.

Y

/N
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Um, okay, who else? Beck? Well, a claimed vig...could be SK... I'm getting confused over his chatter with tarsonohgoshwhatisgoingonnevermind.
Mist Beauty? No posts? I'll just junk my computer. *junks*
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There we go, I'm going off now. Ta-ta. If you have any problems with this post, please refer to my post #1069 to make yourself feel better. Otherwise, I'll come back in the evening. Or not. Or maybe. It is now 2.50am.

[Rainbowdash]

Why would I need town cred when I could have won the fucking game today instead?

Point taken.


Wondering if I'll be left alive.

Rainbowdash, what do you have to say to this?

Yeah I think AJ and Thad both have something working for them at this point for WIFOM.

AJ as already pointing it out, why didn't she vote Thad? I probably would have fought her on that hard all day, but im not sure it would have been an impossible thing to pull off since it wouldnt have needed to be me she convinced. It likely would have come down to my arguing skills against hers.

For Thad though, the one that hangs me up is why would he have voted Charlie? Its not like he needed to get all uppity about that hammer yesterday, it would have been easy for him to just tack on "Rainbow THEN Charlie" given that he was already riding what Mist did. It seems like a wierd spot to start the bus in when you already have justification for voting town.

I don't like feeling this confused this late in a game, especially when its almost coming down along the lines of "who played suboptimally"

[Applejack]

If ThAdmiral was lynched today, there was a chance of myself getting lynched tomorrow because of the connections Whiskers saw him drawing with me. Therefore, I lynched Charlie first. If we look at this from the Applejack-scum point-of-view, I wouldn't have cared about arguing with you; I would have had Whiskers on board if I wanted to lynch ThAdmiral.

The scum team played optimally, really. You're confused because they chose to cross-bus; that means it's working. There's also that logic I've laid out about why they decided to not risk swinging the Day 4 lynch to you.