Hm. So prior to the destruction of the site I posted a response to Muffin's request to walk through my thought process throughout the game. Seems like it was lost so I'll re-go through everything again as best as my memory can serve.
First off though:
emp wrote:Chauch: Summarize the recent game for me. Also, why shouldn't I vote you?
Because we are in lylo and I am town. If you vote me then scum win. What are your reasons for wanting to vote me?
As per your first question, it goes along with Muffin's so. Here we go.
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So initially I thought Painted was scum. Which I did indicate early on. His fluffy posts and pure focus on numbers seemed like he was dodging the spotlight with theory talk. Which I believe I did mention before too. But then there was one post he made that struck me. It's the one where he mentioned that not the whole town hast to be convinced of the plan, only the two PR roles. I had been looking for scum, but I realized by that post that I might have stumbled across the PR instead. I still felt like his posts were suspect so I kept looking at him, as well as any others who I thought would be suspect.
What really got me thinking was when DP posted their thoughts about the PR outting themselves. That coupled with Emp and SA's odd read on painted, I began to think that perhaps I wasn't the only one thinking it. DP, especially, reiterated the fact that the PR had already given themselves away with tells. I at the time, read that as DP having the same feelings about Painted as me. But, that being said, I am also not so confident in my read as some of the other folk. I didn't want to ignore the possibility of Painted being a scum faking all these tells.
So, I went after the next person I thought was most suspicious, Josh. Honestly, I can't really say much other then this was an epic fail on my part. I felt like Josh was holding back, a lot. And because of it I thought he was scum. I totally hadn't considered the possiblity that he was a PR. =/ And when he claimed I was seriously disheartened. But because of this it also made me reconsider Painted. I had already outted one PR and I didn't want to risk losing the second too, all on day one. Which is why i voted for DP instead.
DP was, in my book, a for sure town. The way he played, his aggressive style, etc. It fits a townie moreso then a PR role, mainly because he was very 'in your face' about everything. Essentially, I didn't want to risk potentially outting both prs on d1 so I went with a DP lynch instead (given that was our only other option at that point).
Moving on, what really confirmed the Painted PR was the night actions. Josh was not protected. The only person who indicated very clearly that josh would not be protected was Painted. And given painted's reaction on being almost lynched D1 + the night actions I was almost positive he was the PR. To add on he softclaimed a jail on SA as well. Which led into my suspicion of Muffin. But I wanted a massclaim first. I thought if Painted claimed JK, then Muffin would surely be the one to claim scum. Because Painted, the entire game, was Muffin's number one pick. The only reason I could think of why was if Muffin saw Painted's 'tells' and either 1. Muffin was the JK and saw Painted fakeclaiming or 2. Muffin was scum and saw Painted PR and wanted to day lynch him. (An afterthought, I should have considered teh posssiblity that Muffin was town and genuinely thought Painted was scum. But at the time it really hadn't occured to me because I felt Painted was very overt about being a pr. In hindsight, it was a poor assumption on my part.)
But that is why I kept pushing the massclaim. I thought either way we would have gotten a confirmed scum and it would have been worth the trade. With one confirmed scum, even if we lost the PR, it would make finding the last scum a lot easier (given you now have scum relationships to analyze). Which is also in part why I was so sure Muffin was scum. I genuinely believe Muffin is a good ms player. That being said, it may have been unreasonable for me to think that just because of that, he would catch onto Painted being a PR. I just felt like if he had seriously been watching Painted posts for so long he would have noticed the same things I did. This was also because I felt DP caught it, and emp and sa did as well. But then D2 I realized I was wrong about SA and emp 'getting' it. And perhaps it was naive of me to assume that others would have caught the same thing.
And then...Painted claimed VT. Which, ultimately, was the second and final blow to my confidence. I thought was completely plausible and made me feel hopeful that town could still win despite accidentally outing the first pr. And..I turned out to be..wrong? =/ Yea. So, at that point, I just didn't know what to think anymore. All my reads were pretty much shot and everything I had with the game so far was gone. =/ So, not much to say there other then the fact that Painted made me angrier then anything after he flipped and it turned out I wasn't wrong.
Which finally brings us to here and now. I don't know who the heck is scum and who isn't anymore.
But with the recent (as in before the crash) back and forths between muffin and I, I realized I may have been barking up the wrong tree with Muffin, as I was basing a lot of my case along the assumption that it was plainly obvious Painted was a PR. Was I the only one who saw this?
And next, I remember before the crash I actually started making a case against Mist. Mist has been very on the dl all game and refuses to give reasonings for votes even when questioned. I recall asking her d2 directly about one of her votes and getting a 'nope' response of sorts. The only subsequent posts she has made is her case against DP which let me to think that perhaps she is posting that was in particular so that when she does post anything of subsequent content, it would seem so much better relative to her other posts, hence we would write her off our lists. I'm not sure if I'm just overthinking again.
But, I am going to go through everything again and re-look at AP and Emp too. Because I'm essentially having to start from scratch again.
SO.
Yea.
I think that was as much as I can remember about what I had posted previously. But feel free to ask me more about anything that happened previously in case I forgot to talk about it.
