Mini 201 - Game Over!

[HezLucky]

This would be a lot easier if the mafia or serial killer could counterclaim to prove that Blackberry wasn't the one that killed LML... :p:p:d

j/k j/k

Phoebus, who'd ya kill?

[Blackberry]

I would advise against lynching me for my method of kill.

All I did was tell the mod I was strangling LML with a pillow.

....

If I were lying I would have atleast said I killed someone with a better death-scene so as to not make me look scummy.

[vikingfan]

Phoebus already said it was ENYH, which makes sense, at least to me.

Why did you specify a pillow? Or did halo require a method of death be sent as well as the choice?

[Blackberry]

He didn't require a method, I just added it in there for fun.

[vikingfan]

Man, this is hard-I wanna hear from the others on this one. I think it's pretty obvious to all that this is a critical lynch, so I want to get every opinion possible.

[HezLucky]

Actually I think your kill method makes you seem like the innocent one.

Stabbed sounds like a serial killer.
Beaten up sounds like mafia.
I don't think the mafia would strangle anyone with a pillow ...
though the serial killer could ...

then again we could have a deranged mod ...

BUT ...

Berry could be tellign the truth about killing LML but could be mafia using a twisted method ... and LML could be a bully vig like viking...

hmm...

aah...

confusing. help me out.

[vikingfan]

Hez, I don't think we can necessarily get anything off kill method (much as I wish we could). The reason why is that I think back to night 1- Tigris was pushed off a cliff, something that was not repeated in night 2. Not only that, but Nightfall was shot dead night 1-again something that was not repeated night 2.

This is one reason I'm slightly hesitant about Blackberry- it doesn't seem like halo puts a lot of emphasis on kill methods, though I could be wrong.

[vikingfan]

BTW, Hez, LML is a cop-mods usually never lie about players' roles. If they wish to conceal them, they announce how the roles will be revealed before the game starts (i.e. revealing PMs, but not roles).

[Yanqush]

HOWEVER, if Someone is our last evil, why would he choose not to kill on Day 1 as serial killer?

blocked night 1

[HezLucky]

Then why would he get a post restriction?

Does vikingfan's post restriction work no matter what?

[vikingfan]

Then why would he get a post restriction?

Does vikingfan's post restriction work no matter what?

As far as I know, yes (unless the mod has something he's not telling me). AFAIK, the post restriction and role blocking are part and parcel of the same package. That's why neither Someone or Yanqush can be our SK.

[Yanqush]

thats assuming we don't have a trgger happy vig

[Phoebus]

Vote: Blackberry

Why I did not vote for him earlier was because I wanted to listen everything he said before I voted.

I am a multiple vig. I did not mention a kill method. I was not required to. Personally, I was surprised it was beating someone to a pulp. I expected another shooting or something.

Whoever said beating seems like mafia, look alive. We have had one shooting each night. That's what the mafia are doing.

I have given my reasoning as to why I chose to kill - I've let two serial killers walk away with a win in two previous games where I was too scared to exercise my vig powers despite a hunch. This was not going to be the case this time. Unfortunately, this time, the guts were wrong. Go figure.

Blackberry hinting at someone other than him being the vig and then claiming vig himself is totally off. It seemed as if he was fishing for a role to counterclaim.
I've seen SKs having weird and differing kill flavour before. So yeah.
I've seen scum given a vig seeming kill as an alibi but not a vig who tells you how their victim dies. Evil people do that.

Die.

[vikingfan]

Actually no, Phoebus. We have not had one shooting each night- the kill methods have been different each time.

Nevertheless, I'm going to

unvote

and

vote Blackberry

. I just can't buy that Blackberry actually sent in a kill method-it doesn't seem to fit what I know of the general mafia game. Scum, whether SK or mafia, usually just send in a choice.

[Yanqush]

I have specified a kill method before, but requested by mod.

Just a check, Did blackberry really hint himself vig?

[vikingfan]

That's correct, I'm claiming Vig.

Right here, he declares that he's vig.

[halo freak]

Vote Count

Blackberry, 3 (Phoebus, VikingFan, Yanqush)
Phoebus, 1 (Blackberry)

4 Votes to lynch.

[Blackberry]

Mod, my vote is on Phoebus and Yanqush's vote is on me.

...


Blackberry, 3 (Phoebus, VikingFan, Yanqush)

Phoebus, 1 (Blackberry)

[halo freak]

opps sorry updating it now

[Blackberry]

however.....

This gives us two options, whoever viking blocked is doctor OR viking is lying.

Viking, if you blocked someone, I think it would be advisible not to admit who you blocked, they are the doctor.

This sounds..... wrong/weird to me.

You are assuming that:
a)vikingfan blocked someone that is still alive.
b)vikingfan blocked the doctor.
and in the second sentence assumes vikingfan tells the truth so in effect cancelled out the first sentence's 2nd option meaning
c)vikingfan is a good guy which we don't know for sure.

These are pretty big assumptions, don't you think?

Vote: Blackberry

a) Viking had already admitted that he didn't block someone that died.
b) He didn't block a killer, there were three killers. He didn't block himself, he blocked you. You are the doctor Yanqush. If we believe HezLucky, it concludes the three kills were made by ME, SOMEONE AND PHOEBUS. I have a fair idea of what Hezlucky's role is.
c) I'm not assuming viking is a good guy, I'm assuming he is telling the truth about his action. He can still be bad but thus be a roleblocker and therefore he blocked the doctor, AKA you.

[Blackberry]

That leaves me, HezLucky and Phoebus.

I know I'm not the SK or mafia. I'm also confident I know the identidy of the vig.

Therefore it is between HezLucky and Phoebus. Between the two I am more inclined to believe Phoebus is evil. I don't know why, but at the very beginning I thought he was SK, he gave me a weird vibe. I am extremely confident that he is SK, if not that, then mafia. I would appreciate it if someone seconded my motion for him to claim.

If you guys want, I will post a list of what I believe everyone is. This will clarify why I think Phoebus is anti-town.

~ Blackberry

To answer your question Yanqush, yes, I have hinted at being vig.

[vikingfan]

Where are you getting the idea that Yanqush is the doc? Obviously, he has to be either the doc or the extra role, but that's only 50% odds, not 100%. Hez has staked out the extra role, but that just means either he's trying to cover his doc role or else he's scum (both of which are possible). Not saying he's scum, but there's no guarantee that Yanqush is doc.

[Blackberry]

Viking - is roleblocker, he is not doc.

Yanqush was blocked last night and therefore he wasn't one of the three killers who made a kill.

I am not doctor.

HezLucky claims he isn't doctor. He also claims he didn't have a night action. If we believe HezLucky it concludes ME, SOMEONE and PHOEBUS made the three night kills.

Thus meaning YANQUSH is doctor. And as I said earlier in the game, I believe Yanqush is pro-town.

[vikingfan]

That's what it all hinges on- believing Hez. But Someone could just as easily be doc.

Not that it matters-I'm leaving Hez for tomorrow as we agreed upon earlier.

[Blackberry]

So that means either two things...

HezLucky is telling the truth and both he and Yanqush are cleared.

OR

Hezlucky is lying and he is mafia.

Someone

, if you happen to be doctor, then you can simply conclude HezLucky is lying because if you ARE Doctor then HezLucky made one of the three kills last night.

If you are NOT doctor then HezLucky must be telling the truth.