Mini 201 - Game Over!

[Someone]

*sighs*

I'm the third part of the neighbourhood watch.

I was going to try to get hezlucky to claim first to confirm my role even further, but I was getting the feeling that he knew what my role was.

Hezlucky, how is that

proving

I'm the SK without claiming? All you're doing is proving that It's possible that I'm going the killing... You're not disproving that

you are doing the killing

.

I don't like how you are claiming you are above suspicion Hezlucky, IMO, you are the most suspicious one today.

*goes off to do reasearch*

PS-

I was suprised to find the thread so far down the page, can we pick things up a bit please.

Perhaps it's because we only have three players left?

[Phoebus]

I did not read all of Lucky's post.
I caught on this: claim if I request it Lucky? I demand it.
I am not scum.

Someone = third NW member = fishy.

My access is limited by circumstances. I will read through everything again. I need more material before I make a decision. Please don't get impatient halo, this can't be messed up.

Get posting Lucky!

[HezLucky]

With Yanqush dead, I am your back-up doctor. (which essentially makes me your new doc)

I could not claim earlier (ie. when viking asked) because it would make my role utterly USELESS.

I could not claim before Someone because if he claimed back-up doc then you would be stuck.

As it stands right now, if you want to try some funky scenario that involves the use of my doc powers, go ahead ... but as I said previously, I can't think of any scenario that works unless you trust me ... and if you trust me, you're better off lynching Someone anyway.

Read my entire post Phoebus and tell me exactly who made the kill on Tigris Night one. It might help with this "material" you're requesting.

I'm off to the wiki to check what neighborhood watch is again.

[HezLucky]

The fifth word in Paragraph 5 should read Phoebus, not Someone.

[halo freak]

Someone: having three players left is no excuse. When made that post no one had posted for 16hrs. That means no matter what time zone you live in you would have been awake for at least 6hrs plenty of time to write a post i think.

[Someone]

There's not much more I can say. I trust that phoebus is good enough to read through the game and come to the right decision on his own.

[HezLucky]

I can.

2 things for Phoebus to keep in mind:
- Neighborhood Watch is, by definition, 2 people.
- If you made the kill on Tigris night one, then there is absolutely no question that Someone is the serial killer.
- If you didn't, you'll have to take my word that he's unblockable.

[Someone]

-Mafia doesn't have definitions. If halo wanted to make a three-person neibourhood watch, what reason does he have not to?

-I'm not sure why you keep pressing this issue. Phoebus obviously abstained from killing N1. He especially wouldn't want to get tigris, in tigris's first game back...

-Take your word that I'm unblockable? My word is much better . He'z the serial killer and unblockable.

[HezLucky]

Why do I have to be unblockable?

I was never blocked anyway...

[Someone]

Ok...whatever, you're still the SK.

[HezLucky]

Thank you for clarifying my (your) role.

I don't see how any progress can be made to this game until Phoebus starts askin us some questions though.

[Someone]

Don't worry, he'll come around eventually. Until then, we can just have useless chatter so the mod doesn't suspect anything.

[Phoebus]

Phoebus is around.
He's on limited access. You don't want my excuse.

I will re read. Might take a bit. Not giving any excuse here.

- If you made the kill on Tigris night one, then there is absolutely no question that Someone is the serial killer.

Do you think a vigilante in his right mind would kill night one? I'm not IS. He wasn't playing, I don't have a grudge against him or anyone playing here.
So we've covered all conditions that would entail a vig killing night one.

If you didn't, you'll have to take my word that he's unblockable.

How do you figure that?
He wasn't blocked but still got a posting restriction?
viking's side effect of a post restriction was evident when the mod put one belatedly on viking's night two target. (CoolBot? Speedy? Not looking back right now.)
Does that tally? No.

Is the mod giving the SK unfair advantage by just "telling him" about night happenings and supposed effects? I hope not.

- Neighborhood Watch is, by definition, 2 people.

That is a point.

Mafia doesn't have definitions. If halo wanted to make a three-person neibourhood watch, what reason does he have not to?

That is also a point. Mafia role blockers aren't quite the norm. I haven't used one for a year or so and I usually think I make do with available roles and powers well cuz I can't make new roles up.

I was never blocked anyway...

Which might be particularly evident given the night kills and their consistency.

You hanging on to your claim does not help you either.
Claim doctor? OK. Claim back up doctor? Unlikely...

Oh and Someone...targets? Results?

If the mod can be considerate enough to wait on me...despite my time zone, there are other things at work, so yeah.

The rest of you can answer those questions.

[HezLucky]

So you are denying killing Tigris night one?

In that case, viking's roleblocking has some effect I am unaware of ... such as that of an unblockable SK (Someone).

Let me find your questions:

I did not ask you whether you killed Tigris because you-might-be-a-night-one-killing-vig but rather because you have hinted many times that you were the one to kill Tigris. Did you read my previous post? If you did kill Tigris, then you can stop the analysis now and vote Someone. If you didn't, then you definitely have some sleuthing to do.

Not blocked but got a posting restriction? Yeah, that makes sense... seeing as Yanqush got a posting restriction but we don't have any idea who his target was. For all we know, maybe he wasn't blocked and just got the posting restriction instead. That might make some sense... On the other hand, maybe Someone was given the posting restriction as a game-balancing act from the mod in order to make sure that viking didn't find out that he was the SK.

I can't claim doctor ... Yanqush is the doctor. I'm his backup aka. the new, current doctor.

[Someone]

I don't think the mod will have a problem with waiting for you to have more time...

We all know that you have limited access problems, and are not a dirty old lurker (like me ).

Now, I could dig up all the results etc. , but it's really moot now since we've narrowed it down to two possibilities, and we know all the other roles in the game.

[HezLucky]

Yeah, making them up and checking the entire game to make sure there are no inconsistencies is too much work for our serial killer here.

[Phoebus]

I'd prefer results Someone, you dirty old whatsit.

Lucky, WHERE did I hint at killing Tigris?

[HezLucky]

See Exhibit E and to a lesser extent Exhibit F in my Post 323.

[Phoebus]

You're a nutter.

[HezLucky]

What... does that mean?

[Someone]

post 342 sounded like the script from one of those CSI shows that are always playing on late-night TV.

Night 1 Nobody was at LML's house
Night 2 Phoebus was protected, but we couldn't see who did it. (Assuming yanqush)
Night 3 Blackberry was killed but escaped unseen. (Assuming Phoebus)

Again, it doesn't really tell you much. The fact that we "missed" N2 and N3 was relevant at the time, but now that we've

solved

the game it's much less important.

[HezLucky]

I'm finding a flaw:

The chance of success for neighborhood watch decreases as the watch starts to die.

You lost a watch on Night 1 and another on Night 2.

I find it hard to believe that all of your watches were successful based on that.

[HezLucky]

I also find it weird that you would choose Blackberry ... especially since they were both dying anyway.

It would've been better if you had chosen vikingfan or myself, no?

[Someone]

It's the odds man. After the fact, you can't argue with them.

I thought phoebus was scum, and that he might not keep up his end of the bargain.

[HezLucky]

Even after Blackberry admitted he was evil? Frankly, I woulda cleared Phoebus as vigilante at that point. No true vig would admit he's evil.

I wonder how Phoebus is doing with his rereading ...

Just like to point out that I proposed the no lynch and that the game would be lost without that. So whether I'm scum or not you might wanna thank me once its done .

Of course, I'd like to thank both Someone and Phoebus for each killing a mafia last night. If Someone wasn't such a psychopath (in game terms), we could all live amongst each other.

Oh well, it's 2 to lynch.