NY 151: Playground Mafia (Game Over-Mafia Win!)

[Code_X]

Going to tell you idiots the mafia

mafia
1) maxwell
2) fakegod
3) ohgodmylife

if ohgodmylife is mafia pr
1) maxwell
2) fakegod
3) maxous

Maybe he is just that good.............

[maxwell]

Him postulating that OGML was a scum PR is pretty god damn suspect, although I come from epicmafia, where cheating is practically the norm, so.

[Nero Cain]

epicmafia lets people cheat? WTF?

[Psyche]

Sorry. I'm not good at this.

[maxwell]

No Nero, it's against the rules, they just do it anyway because when you can get a 20x20 .png of a trophy on your profile for winning at mafia, people suddenly feel the need to cheat like crazy. I came here to get away from that. Crazy world.

it's okay, psyche. it's okay. it happens.

[Nero Cain]

Sorry. I'm not good at this.

troll alt Junpie thinks you are!!!!

[Psyche]

Huh?

[PeregrineV]

Short notes about the game:
There is no need to go into details, but the short of it is when Andrew was suspected of cheating, he was forced replaced. This is not an indication of guilt, but an attempt on my part to keep game enjoyable for all. I know some may not be happy with the decision, but it was mine alone to make and I bear the full burden of any consequences.
My goal was to keep the game pure for those alive and playing in it at the time.
Feelings after the game can be sorted out, but while you were alive and playing, I wanted the tension to exist and for players to enjoy the effort of catching scum or eluding town.
I feel this goal was successful, but am willing to listen to criticism on how I should have done things differently.

Originally the game included a miller, but I was talked into dropping that for a VT. The review thread was pretty back and forth, but I really wanted to see the power of a six man mafia team. And I wanted the basic roles in there. I also wanted a Universal Backup, to see how that played out.
Based on setup, I felt the town had a good (read: better than 50%) chance of winning.
Once roles were assigned, that dropped somewhat (read: a lot).
Once the first night passed, I had scum at a 70% chance of winning.
This later swung back towards town.
In the end, I think that balance was there, considering it went down to the wire.
A very enjoyable game to watch the last few days.

Thank you to all the replacements that filled in. This was one of the hardest aspects of modding a game this size. Quilford filling in for DV with 100 pages and then being nighkilled was the toughest, but many people still came through for me, and for that I thank you.

Antihero had 50% of the mafia team early game, which impressed me.
Nero later makes a pretty accurate LLD case, which didn't go anywhere but did identify her as mafia where everyone pretty much had her as town.

The FakeGod lynch on day4 required 8 to lynch. 4 of those were mafia. I wonder how things might have been different if FakeGod hadn't been bussed. This would have been even more relevant had town won.

LLD made some executive changes to night actions that really helped the mafia team, especially night 1 and night 2.

I felt bad for the masons getting both killed so early, and then Gunny taking over the empty QT. It's funny that it did happen that way, in hindsight, but that took away some town power.

Special thanks to Amrun for her help! You can have dibs on my next large game!

[Code_X]

PV - I think you did the right thing regards just replacing him - none of us alive assumed anything sinister was going on (or I didn't anyway). I'd be have more annoyed if the game was abandoned. A tough spot for all concerned really but I'm glad you kept it going even though we ballsed it up.

[maxwell]

The FakeGod lynch on day4 required 8 to lynch. 4 of those were mafia. I wonder how things might have been different if FakeGod hadn't been bussed. This would have been even more relevant had town won.

It is worth noting that by the end of the day we were desperate to keep OGML alive for at least one more night - it ended up not mattering because rach's investigation target died that night anyway, but the possibility of another cop investigation going through scared me a lot, and probably the rest of the team as well.

But yeah, I should have voted benmage earlier that day rather than trying to avoid the wagon, lesson learned, etc

[Nero Cain]

Huh?

In the dead qt he said you were an upper tier quality player or some shit.

[Maxous]

Once roles were assigned, that dropped somewhat (read: a lot).

Hmm, imo the biggest problem for the scum team in the game was too many of the mislynchable town players got important must kill PR's.
So we had to leave the stronger players alive and... well got screwed over in the latter half of the game.

ftr I agree with your decision re:Andrew

Maxwell's arguments in LYLO was excellent though and he really carried the scum-team from D5 ownwards, coming up with the FBI fakeclaim too.

Ben was particulary good too, Day 4 ownwards (and he made sure we knew it ) but was real impressed with how Max won this for us ^_____^

[Maxous]

by the way that Jack of all trades could of ripped the scum-team apart by it'self

Holy smurf!

[Psyche]

Huh?

In the dead qt he said you were an upper tier quality player or some shit.

Oh. Sorry for not living up.

[Amrun]

This game had a ridiculous amount of issues - crazy! I'm glad to see it successfully conclude.

[RachMarie]

uggh if I had not gotten roleblocked grrr or if I had not died when I did It was quite a challenge stepping into replace with so many pages and so on. I and my predecessor were roleblocked quite well and of course LLD being a GF helped. Big Kudos to the scum team for pulling it off. Usually fake claiming backfires on the scum, but Maxwell pulled it off well. It must have been agonizing for Psyche and DLG trying to figure it out. I have been in Lylo before and sometimes guessed right sometimes did not, it is a tough position to be in.

I was able to replace in because ya all had already lynched the hydra that included my bf NS (we have found that we can't play in the same game since our computers are close together in the bedroom.) I had fun with this game and wished life had not been so topsy turvy when playing it.


A BIG Kudos to the mod the flavor was wonderful ♥

[OhGodMyLife]

I like the setup. Very, very power heavy on both sides, but scum should have seen the amount of town power coming from a mile away with three power roles out of six (six!) mafia, and the fact that we didn't almost cost the game. And yes, that jack of all trades, holy cow what a monster. Very lucky he got killed without claiming results.

Maxwell wins scum MVP imo for the great fakeclaim and of course pulling out the win in lylo. Hell, he would have been mvp just for replacing the utterly useless shotty. I felt like a burden to my team most of the time, I have just never been very comfortable playing as scum and I think it shows. The fakegod bus was definitely a desperation play to keep me alive one more night to roleblock, but it turned out the vig couldn't be RBed anyway so doh.

GG all, it was fun.

[DeasVail]

Great job modding PV, and sorry for replacing out, and sorry to Quil about how things turned out.

And yeah, I felt as if I really should have been able to use the JOAT powers better, but ended up having nothing of use. I really thought that someone would at least visit TML Night 2! Any advice on what I could have done differently?

Also, well done to the scum!

[DLG]

Ahh, this wasn't Psyche's or Code_X's fault. It was pretty much mine.

Psyche was right, and I forced the issue. Next time I'm in LyLo, I'm going to convince myself who's scum and vote the other way.

Without a doubt I should have known what the Benmage kill meant. That should have meant more than Code_X's tentativeness, but I wrapped myself up in the might be's instead of just going with the obvious answer.

@ PeregrineV
I loved the flavor. Top notch work, and made the game experience that much more fun.

[Benmage]

Sigh..

Scum had this game on lockdown. But town had such a strong surge. It was painful to see this become a loss.

[RachMarie]

Ben you did Awesome ♥

[StrangerCoug]

maxwell, why are you so ashamed of your own play when you got me my first scum win in about two years?

Also, interesting piece of trivia: I won the other game where I self-hammered as scum, too. (On the other hand, I've lost every other game where I've been lynched while self-voting.)

By self-hammering, I wanted to create as much confusion as possible, and I honestly don't think that worked too well. My remaining scumbuddies were reluctant to keep pushing Benmage after that and the FBI claim was center stage.

[maxwell]

I just feel like I didn't play the game I wanted to play even if I did end up winning.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This game should have been called a draw.

[FakeGod]

I was useless.

Q.Q