Experimental Role Mafia (GAME OVER!)

Hiraki · Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:27 am

Hey! Look at that! Tammy is finally embracing my way!

It's either me or you.

Finally happy you came to that conclusion.

Tammy · Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:56 am

I came to that conclusion when you proposed it before. It's why I'm voting you. You said it had to be me or you, I said that you were admitting it was you then.

Guys. I'm sorry. I'm done. I was going to keep on looking into stuff to see if maybe it was Papp's, but there's no way I'm changing my vote from Hiraki.

I can't deal with this. Sorry.

If you don't think it's Hiraki, please lynch me instead. If you lynch Papp's and it's not him, that will leave me and Hiraki together in LyLo, and I refuse to do anything with him acting this way.

I AM TOTALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THIS. IF YOU DO NOT LYNCH HIRAKI, LYNCH ME PLEASE!!! IT IS THE ONLY CHANCE TOWN HAS TO WIN.

Let's look:

Hiraki - believe it has to be me. If we are alive together in LyLo - town will lose.
Papp's - thinks it's either Hiraki or me. Toss up in LyLo
Shadoweh - thinks it's Papp's or me. If we lynch Papp's today and he's not it and Hiraki and I are alive together tomorrow - town will lose.
Majiffy - thinks it Papp's or Shadoweh - probably won't be alive in LyLo
Tammy - thinks it's Hiraki or Papps - who knows in LyLo
Fitz - thinks it's Hiraki, possibly Papps or me - who knows in LyLo

Let's say we lynch Papp's and it's not him. Majiffy will die tonight. That leaves Shadoweh, Hiraki, Tammy and Fitz. Town will lose because I will be the lynch in LyLo.

The only way town has a chance to win this if we mislynch today is if we lynch either Hiraki or me today. So, Papp's is off the table for me today unless someone can convince me that he has to be it. Otherwise, again, I strongly suggest you lynch me today so town has a better chance to win in LyLo.

kthnxbai.

Tammy · Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:06 am

^^^It's the only chance town has to win if Papp's is innocent. If he's guilty, then, all this is moot.

Majiffy · Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:39 am

VOTE: Hiraki

Only because Hiraki is going to lose this game for town if he's town in LYLO.

TWIN SWORDS OF DESTINY · Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:41 am

Votecount 6.6

havingfitz (0)
Majiffy (0)
Tammy (1) Hiraki
Hiraki (4) Tammy, havingfitz, pappums rat, Majiffy
pappums rat (1) Shadoweh
Shadoweh (0)

Not Voting (0) -

With

6

alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Flip to come momentarily.

TWIN SWORDS OF DESTINY · Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:46 am

Hiraki has been lynched.

He was an Odd-Night Tracker, aligned with

Svalinn

.

Hiraki's Role PM wrote:You are an
Odd-Night Tracker
. On every odd-numbered night, you may choose one player. You will learn what player(s), if any, that player targeted on that night.

The game is over.

Town wins!

Night actions and full setup and stuff will be posted later. Congratulations, town!

Tammy · Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:49 am

OMG! AYYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA! :dancingbanana:

In post 2204, Tammy wrote:You're saying it has to be you or me. Is that not 50/50. I know it's not me, so you're telling me it's you. :shrug:

He was telling me it was him!!!

Majiffy · Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:50 am

Wow, the fuck Hiraki? Really? You play derptroll town as scum? Or did you just get bored of the game?

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:53 am

Finally the obvious conclusion to the day has arrived.

Congrats to Town and especially Shadow and having who both helped bring the thing home to a victory these last few days.

Oversoul · Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:00 am

Yellow got fucked by night kills. :/

Poor Thor

Hiraki · Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:05 am

In post 2407, Majiffy wrote:Wow, the fuck Hiraki? Really? You play derptroll town as scum? Or did you just get bored of the game?

Like I said, it was impossible for me to win.

BG with self-claimed no kill was already a hot target.

Shadoweh would've never been lynched.

And you had Voice in your head.

The chances of me winning were so low at that point that it was a combination of both, really.

Tierce · Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:07 am

At last.

We might have steamrolled this if we took advantage of what happened to Aegis, but I think we were all pretty checked out in this game.

Tammy · Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:09 am

Why did you out Thor? Your team might have had a chance I think if you wouldn't have outed Thor.

Majiffy · Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:12 am

In post 2410, Hiraki wrote:
In post 2407, Majiffy wrote:Wow, the fuck Hiraki? Really? You play derptroll town as scum? Or did you just get bored of the game?
Like I said, it was impossible for me to win.

BG with self-claimed no kill was already a hot target.

Shadoweh would've never been lynched.

And you had Voice in your head.

The chances of me winning were so low at that point that it was a combination of both, really.

Could have followed up on my pappums->Shadow lynch order.

Hiraki · Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:13 am

I don't trust your method of thinking and I'm pretty sure everyone else in the game would've seen me as buddying and/or you would've gone against me for buddying to some extent.

We kind of all failed after Shadoweh wasn't lynched.

If he was, then we would've won.

Since he wasn't, Dram was lynched and I felt just about fucked in a 1 v 5(? Right? Or was it 4--same difference)

Tierce · Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:16 am

In post 2412, Tammy wrote:Why did you out Thor? Your team might have had a chance I think if you wouldn't have outed Thor.

Thor would never get lynched, and we needed to use night kills on town, not waste them on cross-kills. Ensuring that town lynched Thor the next day OR that Amrun would shoot him bought us time.

Nice fakeclaim, fitz.

Tammy · Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:17 am

Hiraki - I'm so glad you were scum because you were driving me insane. I was like, that's some kind of strange confirmation bias he's got going on...wtf. Since, you were scum, driving me insane is your job though

Tammy · Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:18 am

In post 2415, Tierce wrote:
In post 2412, Tammy wrote:Why did you out Thor? Your team might have had a chance I think if you wouldn't have outed Thor.

Thor would never get lynched, and we needed to use night kills on town, not waste them on cross-kills. Ensuring that town lynched Thor the next day OR that Amrun would shoot him bought us time.

Nice fakeclaim, fitz.

But he would have helped get rid of some town for you at night. With just one more day alive, you guys might have been able to whittle down the town and had a better chance of winning.

Tierce · Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:21 am

Tammy--you could have gone and checked Tiger MetaTiger if you were that interested in the pappums-Tierce thing. You kept circling it without new info when I had given you all the info you could've wanted by mentioned Tiger MetaTiger and Katsuki's play there as similar to pappums'.

And no, it had nothing to do with 'cop emoticon', that would be ridiculous. Everything I said about pappums/pidgey was genuine.

PEdit: Not really. A player who was choosing to shoot Bunnylover over everyone else wouldn't be much of a help at bringing down town numbers at night, and then he forgot to kill the night he died.

Tammy · Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:31 am

So, that's what happened. It crossed my mind that he forgot. I kept trying to play the numbers and figure out the scenario, and I was like he had to forget...just had to. Hilarious.

Eh...I really don't like rooting around in old games. Maybe I'll look into it one day.

Tierce · Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:43 am

When your reasoning for pappums-scum is "Tierce caught the cop-guilty pretty fast" and I had explained how, it seems to follow that the next logical step is to see if there is any truth to my statement. Your case on pappums pretty much depended on my ability to catch small details, so:
1) checking if this is reflected in my other games (it is) and/or
2) checking if there had been a similar situation in the past (there was)
seem rather viable ways of dealing with that suspicion. As it was, it was pretty silly to see you going in circles without rooting around for more info.

Maybe I'm biased, but IMO, the info you needed to gather intel on this was rather explicit and could have avoided that fluctuation on pappums's slot. Not that I'm complaining in terms of what it could have meant for Svalinn (so many times this was misspelled ._.), but tacking a '???' on it seems a bit wasteful of the information you could have reached with a few clicks.

havingfitz · Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:03 am

Ha!

Hell yes, you're welcome, and thank you very much.

Thx Tierce

Tammy · Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:13 am

In post 2420, Tierce wrote:

When your reasoning for pappums-scum is "Tierce caught the cop-guilty pretty fast" and I had explained how, it seems to follow that the next logical step is to see if there is any truth to my statement. Your case on pappums pretty much depended on my ability to catch small details, so:
1) checking if this is reflected in my other games (it is) and/or
2) checking if there had been a similar situation in the past (there was)
seem rather viable ways of dealing with that suspicion. As it was, it was pretty silly to see you going in circles without rooting around for more info.

Maybe I'm biased, but IMO, the info you needed to gather intel on this was rather explicit and could have avoided that fluctuation on pappums's slot. Not that I'm complaining in terms of what it could have meant for Svalinn (so many times this was misspelled ._.), but tacking a '???' on it seems a bit wasteful of the information you could have reached with a few clicks.

Still wouldn't have mattered. And I'm adverse to going and rooting around in old games. I try to keep a game as contained as possible as it's the present game. I realize that you think meta's the only way to win a game and research everything, but I don't play that way so there was no information I

needed

to gather.

I think it's pretty lame and rude of you to pull your little condescending bit telling me that it was silly for me to judge someone's behavior by the content of the present game.

Tammy · Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:24 am

Oh and that wasn't my only reason for Papp's possibly being scum, so whatever.

Tierce · Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:27 am

In post 2422, Tammy wrote:
In post 2420, Tierce wrote:

When your reasoning for pappums-scum is "Tierce caught the cop-guilty pretty fast" and I had explained how, it seems to follow that the next logical step is to see if there is any truth to my statement. Your case on pappums pretty much depended on my ability to catch small details, so:
1) checking if this is reflected in my other games (it is) and/or
2) checking if there had been a similar situation in the past (there was)
seem rather viable ways of dealing with that suspicion. As it was, it was pretty silly to see you going in circles without rooting around for more info.

Maybe I'm biased, but IMO, the info you needed to gather intel on this was rather explicit and could have avoided that fluctuation on pappums's slot. Not that I'm complaining in terms of what it could have meant for Svalinn (so many times this was misspelled ._.), but tacking a '???' on it seems a bit wasteful of the information you could have reached with a few clicks.

Still wouldn't have mattered. And I'm adverse to going and rooting around in old games. I try to keep a game as contained as possible as it's the present game. I realize that you think meta's the only way to win a game and research everything, but I don't play that way so there was no information I
needed
to gather.

I think it's pretty lame and rude of you to pull your little condescending bit telling me that it was silly for me to judge someone's behavior by the content of the present game.

I don't think meta analysis is the only way to win a game. I think it's fairly important, but it's not everything.

"Lame and rude", and "condescending"? You are being pointlessly aggressive when I used a word as tame as "silly".

You pretty much insulted my intelligence in acting the way you did during the game; while that's annoying, it's a game and you're going to take the wrong conclusions, it happens and no harm done. I'm just saying that the path to get that info was right under your nose. If you don't want to use it, it's your choice.

I'm pointing something you did so you have the tools to improve on that if you ever want to said tools. That's it, there is no condescension implied. If you take commentary as condescending, I'll shut up, there's no need to get into an argument.

With that said, well done to you and the town, you had a good game.