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Post Post #1875 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:17 am

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In post 1874, Paid Pyro wrote:Can someone finish of theRev please? Let's get the flip, hopefully he's scum and finish this thing. Otherwise at least we can move on.


Absolutely not. He isn't scum.
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Post Post #1876 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:42 am

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Darthe
(2) - Rob13, TheReverend
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- Paid Pyro, AngryPidgeon, DrippingGoofball, Darthe
Rob13
(1) - ProHawk

Not voting
(1) - malpascp


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Post Post #1877 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:46 am

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Holy shit I'm L-1? Reading up, hold on.
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Post Post #1878 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:53 am

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Ok, so I'm scum because I think darthe must be scum?

Funny. Look at it from my pov, I see a town wagon with lots of town names on it. I actually think there is likely to be scum on that wagon. Obviously, if that is the case, it's darthe. I have a pool of one to pick from. Hence, confident read. How is that scummy exactly?

But I can die today, because then you only have one person left on that wagon who you don't know the role of. Darthe can go tomorrow for the win.

Here's why I'm town, by the way... AP is still alive. He's been meta checking me, I saw him browsing my other game twice over the last week. Why now would I NK rofl and not someone who is suspicious of me?

It's darthe. This whill become more obvious to you guys when you see my role. If not then the scum did very well to stay off the BC wagon.

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Post Post #1879 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:53 am

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Go ahead and hammer now. Darthe tomorrow please.
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Post Post #1880 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:07 am

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In post 1878, TheReverend wrote:Ok, so I'm scum because I think darthe must be scum?

Funny. Look at it from my pov, I see a town wagon with lots of town names on it. I actually think there is likely to be scum on that wagon. Obviously, if that is the case, it's darthe. I have a pool of one to pick from. Hence, confident read. How is that scummy exactly?

But I can die today, because then you only have one person left on that wagon who you don't know the role of. Darthe can go tomorrow for the win.

Here's why I'm town, by the way... AP is still alive. He's been meta checking me, I saw him browsing my other game twice over the last week. Why now would I NK rofl and not someone who is suspicious of me?

It's darthe. This whill become more obvious to you guys when you see my role. If not then the scum did very well to stay off the BC wagon.

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Post Post #1881 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:10 am

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Of course I'm pushing to get you lynched. I actually think pyro cracked it. If I'm wrong, I die tomorrow. Well, looks like I die today and you tomorrow, but w/e.

It's a pretty bold move for scum to back pyro's theory up so strongly when it heavily implicates him after just one lynch.
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Post Post #1882 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:17 am

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In post 1879, TheReverend wrote:Go ahead and hammer now. Darthe tomorrow please.


No L-1 town tells from this player, hammer please.
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Post Post #1883 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:18 am

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In post 1878, TheReverend wrote:
It's darthe. This whill become more obvious to you guys when you see my role.


Explain now.

Otherwise it's just a squirming soft-claim from a scum who wants to live another day.
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Post Post #1884 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:24 am

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I've explained. Live another day? What use is that? If I'm scum, I need to live three days. So why would I support pyro's BC wagon theory when I know this draws attention to me?

Darthe is very likely to be scum, from my pov, because he's the only person on the BC wagon that I do not know the role of. That's pretty simple. If darthe is not scum, it means that the BC wagon was all town.

Lynching me today tells you what you need to know about one of the unknowns on the BC wagon. I'd rather go today or tomorrow than at lylo. My motives for not kicking up a fuss at L-1 are pro-town. If this lynch goes through, you'll see that.
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Post Post #1885 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:40 am

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What is that role that you are suddenly soft-claiming?

Hurry up, I am growing impatient.
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Post Post #1886 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:43 am

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Soft claiming? You're jumping to conclusions. I'm vanilla, when you see I'm town-aligned, then you see there's only one person left on the BC wagon who can be scum. I'm not soft-claiming any power role, if that's what you're thinking.
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Post Post #1887 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:45 am

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No. Fucking. Way. Reverend you are not acting as town at all, it seems like you are trying to set mislynches based on your death already. Really dumb mislynches.
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Post Post #1888 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:53 am

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Why would I set mislynches based on my death? If I die, and I'm scum, it's game over. No future mislynch will help me. You're not making any sense.

Why would darthe be a really dumb lynch tomorrow if you kill me today?
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Post Post #1889 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:05 am

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He's scum.
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Post Post #1890 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:13 am

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Ok so let me just get this straight... do people actually think that maybe the BC wagon was all town? Because in my two years experience playing this game, I would say that's really unlikely. And that's at a site where majority vote is not needed for lynch, so it would be easier for wolves to keep off.

I hammered BC, further I did it when others were willing to hammer. If scum, why would I put myself on a town wagon with no scum on it when others are willing to hammer?

Why are you people having a hard time seeing why I think darthe is scum? Why is it a shock that I'm willing to die today without complaining when I see it helping the town to narrow the scum pool down to one?

If I die today, kill darthe tomorrow. Please. It's not rocket science.

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Post Post #1891 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:06 am

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He's not scum.
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Post Post #1892 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:26 am

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The fact that Rev asked someone to hammer him but did not volunteer to self hammer makes him scum.
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Post Post #1893 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:30 am

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I'm sorry pidgeon, but I can't help but feel that self voting at L-1 when town to be somewhat anti-town. At the very least you get to see who hammers me.
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Post Post #1894 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:36 am

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In post 1892, AngryPidgeon wrote:The fact that Rev asked someone to hammer him but did not volunteer to self hammer makes him scum.


Depends on your personal viewpoint, but by no means does that make him scum.
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Post Post #1895 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:41 am

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Uh huh. Because Im totally going to care who hammers you when Im squawking for someone to do it. And you actively asked for someone to hammer you. There really is no difference.

Sorry PH/Rob, but you guys need to man up and hit the button. Darthe is like a distant second possibility.

P-edit: Yes it does. Nothing is 100% sure and a lot of things are personality based. But there is no way Rev asks to be hammered like that as town (in the way he did).
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Post Post #1896 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:46 am

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Did you even re-read Darthes hammer on DC?
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Post Post #1897 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:49 am

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I didn't ask to be hammered fwiw, I merely said town could go ahead. But it doesn't matter, as long as you're going for darthe tomorrow.

I never self hammer this spot whether town or scum, because we can't be 100% sure it's between myself and darthe. If we were 100% sure, I self hammer as town or scum. So it's null. Self hammering here is knowingly killing a townie without a guaranteed win in sight. Not pro-town.

Why are you alive AP? So I can ask you why you're still alive?
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Post Post #1898 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:28 pm

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More to the point, why didn't you NK him?
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Post Post #1899 (ISO) » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:56 pm

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AP: Unless Rev starts acting drastically different than he has been all game, I will not hammer. He is town. I will not be on this wagon. I'll have a case on Darthe ASAP, but I don't have much time to do things this week.
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