Mini 1400(!): Bubble Tape Mafia - It's Over!

[Thor665]

I was quite pleased with my play in this game.

[Cybertronix]

MVP = Klick. I could have easily just stayed in this game and did the same.

[mastin2]

Roleblocks stop the action from happening. The doctor never showed up to save the person, the jailkeeper never locked a person up, the vigilante never used their shot, the cop never investigated their target, and so on, because before they do so, the roleblocker stops them.

If someone is roleblocked and tracked, would you tell the tracker who they tried to target?

Trackers, like a cop, would receive "no result", which is different from "x visited nobody" (or however the heck I'd word their target going nowhere), so they could tell just as easily as a cop that they had been roleblocked.

Edit:

Oh, just realized what you meant.

If someone is roleblocked and tracked, NAR applies--since the block happens before the track, that means that stopping the person from performing their action happens before the tracker would see them attempting it. (Or in flavor terms...again, the roleblocker stops them from performing the action, and isn't magically sabotaging their action to fail immediately after it's attempted.)

In other words, the tracker sees the roleblocked person visit nobody, since they (when roleblocked) never actually did.

[Thor665]

@Cyber - He did implode oddly, I'll agree.
You were probably dead regardless though.

[mastin2]

...Though that said, it kinda depends on the wording in the RB's PM.

If their PM says they cause an action to fail, it implies the action is attempted, but has a 0% success rate.
If their PM says they stop/block the action, it implies the action never happens.

[Jake from State Farm]

@Cyber - He did implode oddly, I'll agree.
You were probably dead regardless though.

No because you were dead set against a cyber lynch. You said at one point that a swing to cyber probably wasn't going to happen.

[Cybertronix]

@Cyber - He did implode oddly, I'll agree.
You were probably dead regardless though.

I don't disagree there, but he could have at least put forth a bit more effort.

Mafia QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/EHxa94vEvAvv

[Kthxbye]

KJ, everything said from my end was not meant to be personal. I was just trying to win. You and Jake kicked my ass, so GG to you both.

The fake claim was a poor claim I admit, but it was either that or be lynched. Maybe I panicked a tad bit too early. I suck when o play scum...

[Klick]

Town MVP: Klick >.>

So are you suggesting that I tried to sell a kj/Jake team? Because that would have been a whole lot worse.

[killerjester]

Once I saw the kthx/cyber connection I knew I was right. Not being killed threw me.

For the record, if I were scum I would never target a claimed Commuter over a claimed VT. I just didn't want to bring it up mid-game and sound like scum for it! So while you'd have to ask Kthx why he made the choice that he did, I do believe it was the right one.

KJ, everything said from my end was not meant to be personal. I was just trying to win. You and Jake kicked my ass, so GG to you both.

No worries, the only thing that came close to bothering me was the sideswipe about volunteering. I really enjoy what I do

[Thor665]

@Cyber - He did implode oddly, I'll agree.
You were probably dead regardless though.

No because you were dead set against a cyber lynch. You said at one point that a swing to cyber probably wasn't going to happen.

I recall that I was trying to talk you into the Cyber lynch and thought he was the best bet.

[Thor665]

If we can rule out the Jake question (which I suspect will happen - I'm mostly being paranoid and covering my bases because I'm lazy and a terrible player because I act like I'm a better player than some other people...but calling someone a bad player is win ) and also if we can agree that Kthx/KJ doesn't look like a bus (and I also lean this, but would love to have someone challenge it...sadly, Cyber is the only one with much gain to challenging it) then we're in a happy place of killing Cyber.
If Cyber is a RBer then Kthx, if town, shoots KJ and we win at night.
If an RBer flips and Kthx shoots no one, well...hijinks and amusement happen the next day.
If Cyber is a goon then we get to play the game again tomorrow with the hard choice, but I'll be dead and will magically pick the right scum in the Dead QT after reading Zipper mentioning who it is, I will claim to have always had that knowledge, and keep screaming over and over about 'how obvious' it all is and bemoan how bad everyone is playing.

My memory feels vindicated.

[Jake from State Farm]

@Cyber - He did implode oddly, I'll agree.
You were probably dead regardless though.

You said at one point that a swing to cyber probably wasn't going to happen.

There is no Cyber shift possible (or even likely for a week).

I love when mine serves me correct also.

[Thor665]

I meant Cyber-shift as regards 'Cyber shifting his vote'
Read my quote in context with what came before it. That's why it's 'not even possible for a week' and also 'not likely' - because the slot was vacated.

[Dave168]

GG everyone

Followed this quite closely - nervewracking!

What I don't get is - why did nobody believe i was a cop? Or why did nobody except Jake back off when I claimed? I was looking forward to collecting a couple of nights results before I flipped although I guess without a doc I'd have been dead night 1 anyway...

[Dave168]

Oh yeah - KJ's 1512 cartoon - AWESOME best thing I've ever seen where is the award nomination?

[Jake from State Farm]

GG everyone

Followed this quite closely - nervewracking!

What I don't get is - why did nobody believe i was a cop? Or why did nobody except Jake back off when I claimed? I was looking forward to collecting a couple of nights results before I flipped although I guess without a doc I'd have been dead night 1 anyway...

Because people don't know how to play properly duh

[AngryPidgeon]

GG everyone

Followed this quite closely - nervewracking!

What I don't get is - why did nobody believe i was a cop? Or why did nobody except Jake back off when I claimed? I was looking forward to collecting a couple of nights results before I flipped although I guess without a doc I'd have been dead night 1 anyway...

Play style differences I guess

I should have realized your very carefully laid out claim was too explicit to come from scum.

I should have realized your RVS post WAS a towntell.

I should have counterwagoned Kthx who legitimately was making up bullshit upon replacing in, lol.

[Kthxbye]

I should have trusted Cyber to pay attention closely and waited for the quick lynch when Jake voted KJ out the gate in LYLO.

[killerjester]

It sometimes helps to coordinate an hour or so each day when you'll both be online.

[Dunhamganger]

The thing that most surprised me about this game was that there was never any discussion about the Mafia killing somebody that kthx was instructed to target, thus legitimizing the vig claim. This is probably a little too techy, but what if the Mafia had killed zipper the day after kthx somehow averted his lynch with his claim? kthx claims credit, Cyber's the GF and likely can't be found out, and might could even claim credit for somehow preventing the kill later in the game. Obviously this might be going a little too deep, and the Mafia had no way to know the town was essentially out of PRs, but the fact that no thought was ever given to trying to keep the vig claim from tanking surprised me.

[Jake from State Farm]

what surprised me is that scum thought I had a commute left lol

[AngryPidgeon]

Well 1 shot commute is an incredibly weak role

[AngryPidgeon]

I was half-buying the 1 shot vig claim jsut because I felt that the commute was so weak, there must have been SOME role out there to give the town a benefit with it. And the 1x vig kind of made since because a succesful commute could either prevent a mis-vig or work with the vig to bring the game to odds

[killerjester]

But then Cyber flipped Godfather and you wen't HO HO HO NO WAY like the rest of us.