Newbie Setup (Matrix6 implemented)

Majiffy · Post Post #239 (isolation #0) » Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:09 am

I'd like to see newbie games push heavily towards teaching scumhunting a bit better and less on relying on PRs and "Sheep/Kill the IC"

Godfather + Goon v Cop, Doc, 2 VT and 3 Millers, with Millers flipping on lynch as "Mafia Goon" and their role PMs saying they're just a VT.

Majiffy · Post Post #241 (isolation #1) » Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:19 am

The cop actually does plenty, you just have to play the cop properly and hold your cards close to your chest until LYLO.

That setup used to get a good 60% town win ratio on EM before the whole site went to hell.

Majiffy · Post Post #244 (isolation #2) » Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:13 pm

In post 243, Magua wrote:The EM setup required Cop to claim D1, and IIRC, allowed whispers (private communication) between players so that an uncc'ed Cop would then get Doctor claims (it's been a long time, so may be misremembering on that one). Godfather traditionally cc'ed Doctor, again IIRC.

PR claimage D1 is not something we want to encourage here; unreliable flips (death millers) are likewise not the meta we want to encourage.

There were two versions; one had whispers and the other didn't. The one with whispers sucked because then it just turned into 50/50 lynching raw with maybe a chance at VCA near the end.

Majiffy · Post Post #245 (isolation #3) » Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:13 pm

And as it stands, cop claiming D1 in a whisperless version is sub-optimal cop play.

Majiffy · Post Post #250 (isolation #4) » Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:14 pm

I don't really see how it punishes scumhunting, but ok

Majiffy · Post Post #288 (isolation #5) » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:51 am

The only downside with using the top 3 is that scum knows there are 2 PRs if they have a RB. Other than that, using the top three seems alright.