Micro 107: Maysawns und Mafia Start postan, gogogo

Om of the Nom · Post Post #0 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:31 pm

It's really hot today where I live :P

Players:

Klick
leviathan93
theslimer3
MP5
Vintermute
Lincolm
SoraAdvent

Spoiler: Alive

Spoiler: Dead

Rules:

Have fun, don't be a dick. Obey the site rules at all costs. Don't do anything like quote your role PM. If you think something could potentially break the rules, please don't be afraid to ask me first. That's really all there is to it, however I still reserve the right to change anything in this ruleset as I see fit, but I will notify you all in-thread if I do so.

This setup is based off the original 13P setup Masons and Mafia, however in this version there are only 7 players, which means 2 Mafia Goons, 2 Masons and 3 Vanilla Townies.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #1 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:20 pm

Role PM's are out. Game will start when 6/7 players have confirmed.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #2 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:54 pm

Game Start!
With 7 alive it's 4 to lynch.

Vintermute · Post Post #3 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:57 pm

VOTE: Slimer

Because Slimer

and... First!

Lincolm · Post Post #4 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:58 pm

Hi Klick
Hi Slimer
Hi Levi

Vote : Vintermute

MP5 · Post Post #5 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:42 pm

Hi Lincolm
VOTE: Lincolm

For not saying hi to his target before he voted them - I mean who does that?

Seriously, I had a read of https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=23842 while we were in sign up, I see there has been another micro game since then so will read through that later.

Firstly can I ask people not to claim mason, just opens up a pot of wifom that seems far more anti-town than pro-. Our friend klick here did it in the linked game, and turned out to be scum.

Speaking of which, to get us going - klick, how are you going to play this game differently than micro 68?

Lincolm · Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:46 pm

You don't see this also?

Micro 87: Maysawns und Marfear 7P

Klick also scum in there. And I doubt he scum again (probability thought)

SoraAdvent · Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:37 pm

Sheeping Vintermute because it's Slimer, come on.

VOTE: Slimer

Vintermute · Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:03 pm

Well hello to you to Lincolm.

I have deduced that Om of the Nom really likes masons and mafia.

@Sora: Does that mean you have played with Slimer before?

SoraAdvent · Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:47 pm

@Vinter: Yeah, but game's ongoing so no more discussion on that.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #10 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:25 pm

In post 8, Vintermute wrote:I have deduced that Om of the Nom really likes masons and mafia.

It was the setup of my first scumgame on this site. It holds a dear place in my heart~
Just like with Vengefuls and how it was the setup of my first scum win on the site.

Lincolm · Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:34 pm

In post 8, Vintermute wrote:I have deduced that Om of the Nom really likes masons and mafia.

Yes, saw the history the games and there is Klick again in this game (saw he was twice became scum), I like to play this setup. Seems Klick like this setup also.

At least he is expert in this setup and it helps us.

MP5 · Post Post #12 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:58 pm

Om of the Nom wrote:
In post 8, Vintermute wrote:I have deduced that Om of the Nom really likes masons and mafia.

It was the setup of my first scumgame on this site. It holds a dear place in my heart~
Just like with Vengefuls and how it was the setup of my first scum win on the site.

Massive scum slip from Om there ...

Lincolm wrote:At least he is expert in this setup and it helps us.

How does it help us if by chance he is scum yet again? Having someone that experienced on the scum side would hurt us, not help us.

Lincolm · Post Post #13 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:27 pm

In post 12, MP5 wrote:How does it help us if by chance he is scum yet again? Having someone that experienced on the scum side would hurt us, not help us.

Yes, if he is scum again. I'm not hoping for that and I'm try to not assume that because he was already twice became scum (I like math, sorry). Well, he isn't IC also.

Seems you're wary to him too much. Let see later. He still not post anything.

MP5 · Post Post #14 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:04 am

Lincolm wrote:
In post 12, MP5 wrote:How does it help us if by chance he is scum yet again? Having someone that experienced on the scum side would hurt us, not help us.

Yes, if he is scum again. I'm not hoping for that and I'm try to not assume that because he was already twice became scum (I like math, sorry). Well, he isn't IC also.

Seems you're wary to him too much. Let see later. He still not post anything.

Lincolm, this doesn't make sense. How wary of him should I be? There are six of you, and from my vantage point you each have a one in three chance of being scum. I like math too, how does the fact he was scum both previous times have any bearing on the probability of him being scum here? It's the gambler's fallacy.

That being said, consider myself a little more wary of you than the rest, at this stage.

Lincolm · Post Post #15 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:33 am

No, MP5, if you see your own questions, you get your eyes on him.

In post 5, MP5 wrote:Speaking of which, to get us going - klick, how are you going to play this game differently than micro 68?

This question strike attack to Klick. How can you expect someone change his meta?

In post 12, MP5 wrote:How does it help us if by chance he is scum yet again? Having someone that experienced on the scum side would hurt us, not help us.

This question also make people to not believe Klick too much.

I'm not gambling, that's only probability. I know my role, so it still 1/3. Yes, it didn't affect to here, but 3 times in sequence is a coincidence if you take look of it. By the way, let's stop this topic, this is not going to find who is the mafia. Above topic is better.

So, why you're wary to me?

Klick · Post Post #16 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:40 am

Hey guys, I'm on my phone at 6:30 in the morning before school and am posting here to put this in my egosearch.

That is all.

Klick · Post Post #17 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:20 pm

In post 5, MP5 wrote:klick, how are you going to play this game differently than micro 68?

I'm going to be playing as town instead of scum, so my whole mindset will be different.

Seriously, what else could you be going for with that question?

Forewarning: I'm going to be playing with gut in this game. Deal with it.

Lincolm is a strong town read, and Sora's first post reeked.

VOTE: Sora

Vintermute · Post Post #18 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:02 pm

In post 13, Lincolm wrote:
Seems you're wary to him too much.

Impossible

In post 15, Lincolm wrote:How can you expect someone change his meta?

Maybe because his meta was posted on the first page?

In post 15, Lincolm wrote:
This question also make people to not believe Klick too much.

So, why you're wary to me?

1. Why shouldn't we be wary of Klick? And I'm not going to believe in probability.

2. MP5 never said he was wary of you, feeling guilty much?

In post 17, Klick wrote:
Lincolm is a strong town read, and Sora's first post reeked.

Do you have some explanation for either of these?

Lincolm is only semi-coherent and Sora RVSed

Lincolm · Post Post #19 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:22 pm

@Vinter :

In post 18, Vintermute wrote:Maybe because his meta was posted on the first page?

You will lead it to WIFOM and think that in circle. Seriously. Not kidding.

In post 18, Vintermute wrote:1. Why shouldn't we be wary of Klick? And I'm not going to believe in probability.

2. MP5 never said he was wary of you, feeling guilty much?

1. Actually, do you see the context what we discuss? Both of us already saw the histories (Micro) this setup, and both had Klick as scum in there. It is common reason to more wary to Klick, of course.

2.

In post 14, MP5 wrote:That being said, consider myself a little more wary of you than the rest, at this stage.

So, what do you think of this post?

@Klick : I need explanation of your read also, Klick. Sora maybe a gut.

Klick · Post Post #20 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:26 pm

I'd rather not give away how I find town so that I can use my tells in the future without scum imitating them. I may reveal it if Lincolm is ever in danger, or if I've already used the tell on multiple people, or if there is any good reason to.

Sora is, in fact, a gut read.

Vintermute · Post Post #21 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:44 pm

In post 19, Lincolm wrote:@Vinter :

1. Actually, do you see the context what we discuss? Both of us already saw the histories (Micro) this setup, and both had Klick as scum in there. It is common reason to more wary to Klick, of course.
.

In post 15, Lincolm wrote:
This question also make people to not believe Klick too much.

I read this as I think you (MP5) are trying to undermine klick. If that isn't what you meant then please translate the above into english.

In post 19, Lincolm wrote:@Vinter :
So, what do you think of this post?

Well I think... My bad.

In post 20, Klick wrote:I'd rather not give away how I find town so that I can use my tells in the future without scum imitating them. I may reveal it if Lincolm is ever in danger, or if I've already used the tell on multiple people, or if there is any good reason to.

Sora is, in fact, a gut read.

Great, awesome. So you're saying don't vote Lincolm for reasons you cannot explain, and telling us beforehand that you will defend Lincolm if he is close to lynch? Alright

Klick · Post Post #22 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:48 pm

You get it.

Vintermute · Post Post #23 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:01 pm

Scumteam! Kill it with fire!

But seriously the only part not suspicious about it is I find it hard to believe you two would be so obvious about defending each other.

SoraAdvent · Post Post #24 (ISO) » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:01 pm

In post 17, Klick wrote:
In post 5, MP5 wrote:klick, how are you going to play this game differently than micro 68?

Forewarning: I'm going to be playing with gut in this game. Deal with it.

Lincolm is a strong town read, and Sora's first post reeked.

VOTE: Sora

I usually RVS that way back on the site I play on, so it should be normal. Then again, you are playing by gut.

@Lincolm: Just because Klick has been scum the both times he has played this setup shouldn't make us more/less wary of him. In fact, we should be as wary of Klick as we are of everyone, if not more.