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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 4:51 am

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Votecount 3.3


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- Fegelein, Palmar

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- Bacde, Zhero

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With 8 alive, it takes
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to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2013-05-31 16:23:01)[/i][/area]
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 5:00 am

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In post 573, Fegelein wrote: Beast still remains the best lynch. Just because Horus called Beast obv-Town doesn't make him not scum. In fact, that's a WIFOM defence of Beast's actions, which is therefore a paradox, therefore equalling a null tell.
But that's what it felt like to me. ISO beast+ank+horus please
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 5:03 am

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can we have everyone claim vig or not vig in their next post? not vig -

tso - not vig
rofl - not vig
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 5:04 am

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In post 569, Infinity 324 wrote:Roflcopter has used bad logic throughout the game.
hey look a bold statement with absolutely no supporting evidence
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 5:58 am

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Not vig
In post 578, roflcopter wrote:
In post 569, Infinity 324 wrote:Roflcopter has used bad logic throughout the game.
hey look a bold statement with absolutely no supporting evidence

Red toads = reaction test

I thought I actually had evidence to support it

I don't like this CES case and here's why: It makes no sense that you're calling out CES for the naked vote when he could have just been reacting to TSO's overreaction. I don't think it's scummy to appeal to scumhunting and not scumhunt if you're only using it as a towntell. The other linked post is a reasonable argument. Ad homs also aren't scummy.

Also your response is weird since you imply I'm scummy but don't say it.

Do you still think zhero is scum?
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 6:13 am

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In post 579, Infinity 324 wrote: Also your response is weird since you imply I'm scummy but don't say it.

Do you still think zhero is scum?
check out my reads list to open this day for my current stance on zhero. and no i'm not implying you're scummy i'm implying that was a bad point.

tso - not vig
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infinity - not vig
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 6:16 am

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In post 576, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 573, Fegelein wrote: Beast still remains the best lynch. Just because Horus called Beast obv-Town doesn't make him not scum. In fact, that's a WIFOM defence of Beast's actions, which is therefore a paradox, therefore equalling a null tell.
But that's what it felt like to me. ISO beast+ank+horus please
I've had first hand experience of Beast being scum and fooling me in LYLO. It correlates with his current gameplay.

Also, I'll throw my hat in and say I am not Vigi.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 6:27 am

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@Mod There are only 2 people not voting.

TSO, who do you think is scum?

rofl's above post looks really lazy & towny, especially since he ignored my entire argument.

@rofl Why did your read on zhero change? Is it because of horus? My case?

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 6:28 am

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Fegel, I'd like links to beast's meta.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 6:30 am

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Fixed, Thanks.
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 7:46 am

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Ok I iso'd Horus+Palmar+ank and I can't read palmar. He's been really weird this game, going from really wall-posty and explaining to really lazy. He could be trying to buddy me. Palmar, why specifically am I town?

Next up is fegel+horus+ank.

I feel like one of {fegelein, beastcharizard} are scum because meta/gut says fegel is town but beast is scum, but fegel is aligned with ank/horus while beast is not.
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 8:10 am

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A fegel+ank+horus team has things going for it, like fegel backing up horus's potential buddying of beast, but it doesn't
exactly
click into place. Hmm...this makes me more confident that either fegelein or beastcharizard is scum. I want those links, fegel.

Palmar or fegelein could be disinterested in the game because two of their scumbuddies are dead. Fegel appears suddenly reinterested, maybe because he has a chance of winning? I dunno, food for thought.

I'd be really surprised if scum was someone other than fegelein, beastcharizard, or palmar. I'm keeping my vote where it is until I get beast meta from fegel.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 8:32 am

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Hey, this is the scumgame of Beast.

http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthr ... pls/page10

I'm the partner of page 10 who came in and fakeclaimed. Still think my fakeclaim could have worked were it not for my cataclysmic mistake in not giving results. >_>
The guy who was the actual Cop, TIWSS, is possibly the best player I've ever played with in terms of not knowing his alignment. His town meta is the exact same as his Mafia one :(
Anyway, it went to LyLo and Fegelein (yeah, this current Mafia had 3 or 4 playing in that one) hammered the guy (braveswin) who I, when knowing I'd be lynched, breadcrumbed that he was Town, which when I flipped made him seem like my partner. Fun game.
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 8:32 am

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I'm at L-2 so it's 1 more vote and scum can hammer.

I'm JOAT. My abilities are Track, protect and roleblock

n1 I tracked Bacde. He visited ank.
n2 I protected infinity
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 8:39 am

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not vigi

That was sure a fun game and gosh is TIWSS a great player in that regard. :)

If palmar is telling the truth we should probably not lynch him. Just an idea.

TSO, why are you answering questions for Feg? You want me to get lynched that badly?
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 8:42 am

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Well, the good news either Bacde or Palmar should be scum/SK, as Bacde has said he's not Vigi.
Bad news is now we have to 50/50.
Was Infinity targeted last night?

Oh Beast, where was I answering for Feg?
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 8:43 am

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In post 590, T S O wrote:as Bacde has said he's not Vigi.
oh I missed that.
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 8:45 am

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actually I presumed that

let me check
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 8:46 am

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The whole giving the link to my awesome scum play when Feg was supposed to do it.
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 8:46 am

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eh, no he didn't. T S O... where did he say he's not a vigi?
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 8:46 am

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In post 564, Bacde wrote:
In post 562, Infinity 324 wrote:TSO is town. Read his ISO and tell me that's noob scum.

Scum is in {palmar, Rofl, beast}.

Should we just massclaim? If there's an SK they will just claim vig and the info about whether there's a doc will help us determine if there's a vig or an SK.
If the vig claims, then yes we should massclaim

if not, then probably not, because that would indicate an SK OR that the vig doesn't want to out
the tone this is wrote in certainly suggests that he's not Vigi.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 8:47 am

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In post 593, beastcharizard wrote:The whole giving the link to my awesome scum play when Feg was supposed to do it.
Well, it was just being helpful. I didn't say it was good or bad, I simply gave a link so Infinity could see it faster.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 8:51 am

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In post 595, T S O wrote:
In post 564, Bacde wrote:
In post 562, Infinity 324 wrote:TSO is town. Read his ISO and tell me that's noob scum.

Scum is in {palmar, Rofl, beast}.

Should we just massclaim? If there's an SK they will just claim vig and the info about whether there's a doc will help us determine if there's a vig or an SK.
If the vig claims, then yes we should massclaim

if not, then probably not, because that would indicate an SK OR that the vig doesn't want to out
the tone this is wrote in certainly suggests that he's not Vigi.
The tone suggests that he may be a vig that doesn't want to out, he even mentions that possibility
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 8:53 am

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good news everyone i just won us the game

i am an even night watcher and last night palmar visited
bacde


so palmar is the last scum and bacde is a kill immune serial killer

you're welcome

unvote, vote: palmar
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 8:55 am

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(also palmar could successfully claim that bacde visited ank because he knew bacde was sk as soon as the kill on him didn't go through)

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