Mini 1467 - Arkham Horror Smalltown II - Game Over

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Draft: Jacqueline Fine, the Psychic

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Lol, love it.

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I really don't care if you sign your posts or not personally >_>.

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Vote: inte

for...

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why would you start a game right before you know youre going to be gone for an entire week? wth is wrong with you.

jeremy didn't specify he knew this was going to happen. I was just in a game where I had to request a replacement on Day 1 because I had to leave and take care of my father who just had a stroke.

I know I already had a vote on him but I'm doing it a second time to show that this one is a real vote.

Does a REAL vote somehow make it more serious? Do you really think this is a scum gambit and thus stand by your vote? Or do you think it's more likely that he's town and flunked the game and you want him replaced, in which case, what's really the point of your vote?

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I saw Wolf's vote and opted to ignore it in my following post. It could have either been a random vote (which I imagine would have had at least some random reasoning attached), or he was fishing for a reaction, which I wasn't going to give him considering he didn't give me any reason to respond to it.

Unvote

I like inte currently.

PhD's vote and response to my query is total BS. His post was completely null, and you are trying to back up both sides of your vote. Vote him because you think think it's a scum gambit, but also because you hope it gets him replaced? Really? So now that he's replaced what's your read on the "gambit?"

Vote: PhDScar

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Symphony * -- Charlie Kane, the Politician

Political Prowess (P)

: Your vote is worth two votes. This does not change lynch thresholds.

hitogoroshi (3): PhDScar, Sajin, Symphony

@Mod

Clarify how the double voter works please. Does Symphony need to claim his/her vote to be a double vote for it to count as one, or is automatically assumed to be double vote all the time (in which case the previous vote counts has been incorrect)?

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agree w. hito on phd not bein scum.

Where did hito say he thought PhD wasn't scum?

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I like inte currently.

Why?

Because my inte vote was an RVS and I dislike your position and reasonings for voting jeremy/hito, and inte (somewhat) appears to have the same thoughts, ergo... I unvoted, gave my reason why I unvoted, and then voted elsewhere.

We're barely moving out of the RVS... think of it as drawing a line in the sand. People on my side of the line, I currently like, while people on the other side don't get cookies.

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Speaking of which...

So now that he's replaced what's your read on the "gambit?"

I noticed you managed to read my posts since quoted the top part... yet you failed to answer the question I asked you in the very same post. Enlighten please.

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Kanye- "We don't have throw away lynches"

Asks for a PL.

Good point. Liking BB much more.

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Speaking of which...

So now that he's replaced what's your read on the "gambit?"

I noticed you managed to read my posts since quoted the top part... yet you failed to answer the question I asked you in the very same post. Enlighten please.

Sorry I missed that.
Null. I was reading more into it then I should have. Also I really like Hito he is my biggest town read this game.

Hito and jeremy are the same playerslot, you know that, right?

Toogeloo, do you think Kanye is scum?

He's not a town read, but I haven't committed it to a full blown scum read yet.

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TOWN[]=========================================================kanye===================[]SCUM

Somewhere around there I imagine.

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I don't like his posts, no. A lot of what he posts is scummy and/or anti-town, however, though all of kanye's posts, they come off to me as if he doesn't think before he posts them. It's hard to imagine scum doing this since I imagine scum typically have some sort of plan in place, and are more methodical with their posts.


He stated his agreement with your position on PhD, when you never took a stance on PhD, and his post that we should PL BB, but then says we don't have throw away lynches... I think he's just posting off the cuff.

My 135 is more that I feel BB is more likely to be town is based on his rebuttal towards the attacks and that particular point I quoted in particular.

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Man, my articulation sucks. That last sentence is pure trash the way it came out.

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I don't like your posting in particular, but these are the posts that I find the worst.

policy d1 inte lynch for bein a shit head?

anti-town (pre-game though, so strike it)

if anything i would expect scum to be more aware what everyone has drafted (you better believe i knew exactly who drafted what when i rolled sk before. otoh i def dont have the draft memorized this time having rolled town.) an argument could be made for pretending to not know the draft but thats not what youre doing.

Scummy. Especially the part where you state that scum know who drafted what, then you mention you don't know, and then say it's possible to pretend they don't know.

symphony strikes me as eager town w. poor judgment i guess

Scummy. It's not a definitive stance since you add "I guess" at the end.

id be okay w. policy lynching blue bonnet.

anti-town.

holy shit you are retarded

scummy. Pretty much the "No, you." argument.

huh i just realized i didnt bold that vote

Scummy. Realizing you didn't bold a vote, but not doing anything about it, so your vote is still technically sitting in the RVS stage (albeit on someone you have been calling scum, just not Sajin).


For the first couple pages, I just figured you for a troll tbqh. Still, your inconsistent thought pattern doesn't quite make sense as scum which is why I'm not totally sold yet.

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Commentary seems limited to DrScar and Kanye

Not a lot really going on that I feel I need to comment on that hasn't already been said by someone else. I'm keeping a few notes on certain comments, but I generally only mention something if I want to talk about it since I don't typically make conversation just to make conversation. And let's be honest here, the only reason I talked about kanye is because hito asked me my stance on him.

I currently have a couple people I like and a couple I don't like, all of which I have listed in the topic. We are on page 8, so I'm not entirely sure how many people you feel I should be focused on at this point.

I didn't like the way he went after inte for being a "troll" (makes me think he's going after an easy target)

It was an RVS. I unvoted inte and said I currently liked him as soon as I found a real target. I never "didn't like," inte really.

I'm gonna be V/LA until friday with the holiday.

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Skimmed through the stuff I missed.

@DTMaster, I think you are railroading against Sajin hard, but the only argument I saw was that Sajin didn't read the rules?
@Blue Bonnet, What is your case on DTMaster again? I actually rather like his activity so far.


I currently have no interest in lynching the following people:
Lady Lambdadelta
inte
hitogoroshi
DTMaster
Radioactive Wolf
Blue Bonnet

I generally deal with little angels and devils on my shoulder this early, and with the exception of Wolf, the little angel prohibits me from wanting those lynches. Lady's push on Wolf is what makes me like her. inte's early reciprocation of my feelings was enough for me to at least like him enough to unvote him. hito and DTMaster are both very active with well thought reasonings in their posts, so good people. Wolf is confirmed. Blue Bonnet is pretty much just gut.

@DTMaster, my read on kanye is essentially the same as yours. I feel his posting is coming off the cuff, which I feel is something more likely to come from a townie. My sentiment was that he posts a lot of things that come off scummy and anti-town, and he asked me to go back and cite examples. Those examples were not me building a case on him, and I had no intention of even mentioning them because I wasn't even looking at kanye. The whole thing was spurred by hito saying that I should think kanye is scum and not BB being town from the comments that kanye had made, and I had to explain the reasoning which kanye got all inflamed about. Suffice to say, there are plenty of people I'd rather lynch before kanye, but if he got lynched, I wouldn't be upset either.


I'd like to understand more about the Sajin lynch. I'd like to understand the case better if someone can explain it. I like both voters there currently since they are probably the two most active players in the game, and they make a lot of sense in the things they post. I'm still down for lynching PhD as well, but despite liking the people on the lynch with me, something else is giving me pause (I'll explain it later if need be, but not now).

No real read on Symphony or shaboo yet either, but I believe I remember seeing someone (or multiple someones) lumping them together a lot.



PC->X

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Right now my top suspect is Shaboostein.

Vote: Sajin.

Second scumread is Shaboostein.

erm...?

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New page for me to be beaten to the punch.



So here's what I know of Dry-fit since I completely forgot about him in my catch-up post yesterday.

I've played two games with Dry-fit, and both games he's been town. He was completely useless in both games as well, going days without posting, and when he did, it'd be a minimal effort. The thing that strikes me as odd this game is, unlike the other 2 experiences I've had with him, he's made an excuse for his activity (His computer problems). In my previous two games, he seemed completely oblivious to the fact that he was ever a detriment or that his posting was extremely minimal. He 'knows' he's a detriment now and makes an excuse for it.


One of the two games, he was confirmed Innocent Child, and he still didn't really do much of anything.

Oh. My bad for not paying enough attention in the draft.

But even still, he's just a retard playing the Innocent Child the WORST WAY POSSIBLE.

Hey I've done worse. Just ask Toogeloo.

Now what I don't like is that he actually acknowledges it here. He knows he's played Inno Child poorly before, and posts it here. Again, he's acknowledging that he was a detriment in the past. Not the actual game he played, but now, here in this game.


You have a guilty conscience Dry-fit?

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Toog, I don't understand your point?

So here's what I know of Dry-fit

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He is playing differently. I don't like it. It's a meta argument and has nothing to do with his play this game though. However, it's worth noting none the less, even if nothing comes of it. His most recent post only incited me to mention something about him considering he just slipped his shaboo scum read placement (which the jury is out on how scummy something like that really is).

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Now it's my turn to ask you hito.

You've now questioned my reads, asking to clarify them multiple times. I have obliged.

What's your read on me and why?

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Alignments were not in place until after the draft. Accusing someone of scummy behavior based on the draft is wtif-worthy.

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Oh, nevermind, I was confused by the wording and presentation.

I thought Sajin was saying DTM was scummy when he drafted the Kill Delayer but made the comment about the Nun when doing it. I guess I can kinda see the argument now, that DTM knew what the nun did at draft, but then later pretended he didn't.

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Extremely frustrating when the people you want to question get replaced or go on V/LA when you vote them.

The game as a whole is somewhat dead. I suspect most people either just don't care or are active lurking through the day and don't want to be the forefront of discussion.

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So you guys just want to lynch inte for no reason but as some last minute special?

Why not just roll a dice and lynch the player slot number?

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The main concern I'm having is whether or not we have enough people to actually lynch a player today. So many lines drawn in the sand.

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I'm assuming the extension made him feel he could be back on Sajin.

PhD, you've been decided as the optimal deadline lynch. Anything else you want to talk about besides asking why someone just unvoted you?

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I don't have a kanye case, nor have I ever had a kanye case. hito asked me what I thought of kanye, and kanye asked me to name scummy or anti-town comments he made, and I obliged them with my thoughts. I've felt Kanye posts were scummy, but the manner in which he posts them (off the cuff) were likely to come from town, which made him difficult to judge an actual alignment. I've had one person, and one person only that I've been interested in lynching today. I'd lynch a couple people before I would lynch kanye today.


PhD is scummy for his early vote of jeremy followed by my questioning of his stance, which was a complete BS answer to both justify his vote on either a Town or Scum motive. After I called him out, he's avoided talking about hot issues, and has since lurked his way through the day, adding minimal content. His case with vote on shaboo is a sheeped case that hito and yourself put together. I currently dislike that he goes from Sunday to Wednesday this week without a single post, then he hypocritically calls out shaboo, Symph, and kanye for activity. Finally, he doesn't seem to have any fire to save himself since he has been declared the optimal deadline lynch, which comes off as scum lying low hoping we change our mind at the last minute.


PEdit: There is no fire in his defense even. He agrees he should be lynched as it would answer questions. What questions does it answer Scar?


JF>VL

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I'd like Scar to actually explain what happens after his flip. What answers or conclusions are made, what direction does the game go in from there? Why did you only compare yourself and Sajin, and not say, shaboo, who you are currently voting for.

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tbf, he didn't link the actual games.

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Little disappointed no one saw my crumbs. I can understand not understanding them maybe, but not a single person pointed out the oddities at the ends of two of my posts.

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I was more referring to the fact that a bunch of players said they didn't see any crumbs. I understand it didn't matter, but not to see them at all was a little disappointing.