Mini 1486: Fruit Basket Mafia (Game Over)

[don_johnson]

mnem: what changed your mind about kidA?

[zMuffinMan]

hm. i need to rethink mnem actually. there's two things that are making me think he could be town. one of them i can't talk about.

[Buffy vs Dracula]

Totes wrong about Sland/Mnem scumteam. Whoops. It seemed sensible at the time.

More importantly, though, if Sland's town, that means Mnem unsubtly tried to push my vote onto a townie D2. So he's still scum prolly.

[mnemonicdevice]

Or I could have done a Pbp analysis on him because of my uncertainty where he layed on my scum - town spectrum. And found his buddying with Elyse to be suspicious. Which brings me around to me needing to unvote Elyse because if Slandaar is town, Elyse is probably also town. I haven't seen BD post much recently. In response to you Peabody: I decided to vote because of the immediate post after, which means that my post was the last thing that they read, and they voted without explanation.

UNVOTE:

In response to Don, I have been fluctuating back and forth on Kid all game, the thing is, I can't really see him as scum because of a few different reasons, mainly because he hasn't really done anything, but his few posts of content seem genuine, which doesn't seem like lurker scum. However, the fact that he isn't really helping makes me want to lynch on policy.

Why can't you talk about your second reason Muffin?

[zMuffinMan]

because rules

[don_johnson]

can we lynch kidA? seriously guys. look at his recent contributions. if it ain't him we'll know more tomorrow.

[T S O]

Vote: Kid A

Down with that.

[Peabody]

hm. i need to rethink mnem actually. there's two things that are making me think he could be town. one of them i can't talk about.

This post is by town.


DJ and T S O, what do you make of Kid A's vote on me at the beginning of the day? This is what convinced me that he is probably town.

[mnemonicdevice]

Lets see, Peabody and BVD are confirmed town so that leaves me with:
TSO
Don
Kid
Muffin
Desp
Elyse

I think desp vs elyse is town vs town, but not sure

So that leaves me with
Muffin
TSO
Don
Kid

Currently I am reading Don as town-ish, and Kid as null
However nobody seems to be going for a TSO or Muffin lynch, so

VOTE: KID A

[don_johnson]

Peabody: why does that make you think kidA is town?

[Kid A]

lol why would i kill the main person stopping this wagon happening

[Kid A]

also don needs to post a case on me that isnt "he voted a guy who turned out to be cop (and hey at the time i agreed with him that uberkang was scummy but lets just ignore that)"

[don_johnson]

there is more to the case than that. you're not going to "lol" your way out of the noose.

[T S O]

Kid, mnemonic, Desp or Elyse.

I'm not sure Elyse and Desp is TvT.

And it may be WIFOM but I can't see Kid A killing Slandaar either.

[don_johnson]

why not? I was under the impression slaan was a doc/protective? it was way obvious to me through the statements he made. with the cop claimed, scum has to go protective hunting. its pretty obvious at this point who is not the doctor, and if kidA is scum, the other possibilities for doctor are all much more able to be mislynched from a scum pov. if kidA's lynch isn't game, we can work this out more tomorrow. protective role is still out there and Peabody/BvD are all but confirmed. I think i'm pretty well confirmed, so the lynch pool will narrow like a net. step 1: lynch the guy doing nothing who is implicated with both lynched scum and traitor.

[Kid A]

you made some bullshit up about me being linked with the traitor but how about you actually try and show how im scum with asp

your case was 90% stuff that you townread me for d1 (and supported me for) and 10% misinterpretation of my posts

don_johnsons game is to go along with whatever popular opinion is

when everyone says uberkang is scummy as shit he is agreeing with us and when everyone says buffy or ff is scummy he is agreeing with us and then when people start to say i am in their scumpool he tunnels me and even uses the exact posts he townread me for earlier as part of a case on me

unvote, vote: formerfish

I think BvD is still scum. I am willing to listen to reason, though.

i'll lynch kidA as a compromise, but I think he's town and I also like him.

this post pretty much sums up his playstyle, most of the game he just tunnels the easy lynch and fencesits on the people he thinks he can push on later

[don_johnson]

you missed the boat on the VA lynch. you are tied to both ASP and VA. its not my fault that it is obvious. your case on me at this point is nothing but omgus. my moves in this game were fluid and explained. my suspicions changed(as they should in a dynamic game like mafia). you on the other hand are tunneling at a time when its just silly, and on a player that is virtually confirmed town. like I said: more than happy to self vote and take the noose to prove my innocence. if you are vt, you wouldn't be struggling to survive, you would be saying "please pay attention to dj tomorrow, folks", but your posts are more reflecting the idea that you

need

me lynched instead of you. its textbook really, and the RVS/early game tie in's with you, ASP and the traitor are good enough for me on their own to think you are the last scum. combine with your desperation at this point in time when town could lynch randomly today and still come out ahead, and voila.

[Kid A]

you missed the boat on the VA lynch. you are tied to both ASP and VA. its not my fault that it is obvious. your case on me at this point is nothing but omgus.

lol ive been pushing on you since before you made a case against me so this is total shit

my moves in this game were fluid and explained. my suspicions changed(as they should in a dynamic game like mafia).

as i said you feigned this "oh guys im unsure i could go either way on this please tell me what opinion to have", theres nothing dynamic about being neutral on every single fucking popular scum candidate. furthermore basing your case on posts you agreed with early game is all kinds of retarded, if you are supposedly town and had the same thought process as me why is it only scummy when I do it??

you on the other hand are tunneling at a time when its just silly, and on a player that is virtually confirmed town. like I said: more than happy to self vote and take the noose to prove my innocence. if you are vt, you wouldn't be struggling to survive, you would be saying "please pay attention to dj tomorrow, folks", but your posts are more reflecting the idea that you

need

me lynched instead of you.

yes because i am town and lynching me doesnt help us you clown, also townreading yourself shows to me that you are aware of the way you appear to us and have been writing your posts so as to appear in a certain way, i rarely see actual town players townread themselves because if youre town you say what you fucking think and dont give a shit if it sounds scummy

While you're self-reading why don't you explain why fencesitting on everyone in the game and having none of your own opinions makes you "virtually confirmed town"

its textbook really, and the RVS/early game tie in's with you, ASP and the traitor are good enough for me on their own to think you are the last scum.

combine with your desperation at this point in time when town could lynch randomly today and still come out ahead, and voila.

lol this whole thing is based on one post from pdmedic, how about taking into account the slots entire game and developing a case from that instead of trying to use it to omgus me because i figured out that youre scum

also if you actually have any ties with me and asp please post the quotes instead of just saying theyre there and hoping nobody asks you about it

[Desperado]

@ DJ: Justify how KidA makes sense as a partner with ASP/Lucky and pdmedic/VA.

[Peabody]

Peabody: why does that make you think kidA is town?

I was thinking to myself that if I were scum, I just pulled an awesome gambit. If I were scum, it would be convienent for me to claim I was a one-shot cop AFTER I claimed full cop because then I'm not responsible for giving any more reads. I saw this line of thinking in Kid A whenever he voted me, and I asked him why he voted me, and the reasoning looked right. I suppose I think he's town because he thought like I thought and reasoned similarly to me. Plus if he were scum, he'd know I'm the cop and that it may be suicide to vote for me.

I still stand by Desp's fishiness at ASP's hammer. It looks like ultra-distancing. Mnem is not getting any less scummier.

Either of these two I will lynch.

[don_johnson]

@ DJ: Justify how KidA makes sense as a partner with ASP/Lucky and pdmedic/VA.

he pushed against the VA wagon. pdmedic(traitor) posted early on with ASP and kidA. it look slike a huge breadcrumb from the traitor to the scum team. not sure where his vote on ASP was. let's see:

oops i guess slandaar was right

VOTE: a simple plan

wow. that's expansive reasoning there.[/sarcasm]

he soft defends ASP here:

I can.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: A Simple Plan

what is the reasoning behind this vote

here: kidA is tieing fish to ASP:

Alright, lets get this thing started.

VOTE: pdmedic

i found fishes partner

need I go on? I think I already posted the iso case yesterday.

Peabody: so? lynch kidA first. desp or mnem can go tomorrow if the game doesn't end.

does anyone here notice kidA's desperation? his survival instincts?

kidA: if you believe so strongly that I am scum, then self vote. your town flip would bolster your case.

[Peabody]

Mmm, so I saw Kid A as scum previously, but do you not see my point on a Kid A!Town?

[zMuffinMan]

i currently don't think kid A is scum. i need to do some reading but i've been lazy. i'll make this a priority tonight, i guess.

[don_johnson]

Mmm, so I saw Kid A as scum previously, but do you not see my point on a Kid A!Town?

no. I don't follow your point. kidA was a town read for me for a while this game. his recent actions and his connections with scum have abolished that. just because he cast doubt on your claim? m I don't follow that at all. why couldn't kidAscum do that too?

[don_johnson]

can we just lynch him and see if i'm right? cause i'm pretty damn sure here.