In post 391, Toomai wrote:Probably TPS, but just because I have everyone else as townier, not because I find him scummy.In post 385, Architect of Thought wrote:Pyro, Generic, Kdub, Who, Guyett, Shoe
So hey, who does everyone think the most likely scum is on this wagon?
That said I think there might be 2 scum on here, especially if they have daytalk.
A) He dodged the dopog question.In post 393, Toomai wrote:Why are you assuming there's only 2 scum? In a game including alignment-picking I think there could be as many as 4.In post 392, Kdub wrote:Toomai, if you think there are 2 scum on the dopog wagon, you presumably think dopog is town? What makes you think that?
It'd be a pretty strange bus though.
In post 356, Toomai wrote:All I have right now are towns and nulls.
So he doesn't have scumreads, but agrees dopog doesn't look good, but thinks there could be two scumbuddies bussing him, but that would be a strange bus.In post 376, Toomai wrote:I agree that dopog doesn't look very good right now
Seems odd to bring up... This isn't a strong part of my case, just a note.In post 391, Toomai wrote:That said I think there might be 2 scum on here,especially if they have daytalk.
In post 530, Toomai wrote:Claim: Town Enabler
Don't know what I enable, but it's implied there's more than one.
Not 100% sure how to feel about this claim. He's either town enabling a scum role, town enabling a town role, or scum fakeclaiming/enabling their own role. Claiming to pick Enabler seems odd and his logic is bad. Why pick Enabler and not a power role of your own when it's not guaranteed you'll be told another role? Then again, of all the things to fakeclaim, why fakeclaim Enabler?In post 536, Toomai wrote:I chose Enabler because I figured I'd then be told at least one role elsewhere in the game. That didn't happen.
I believed there was two scum on the wagon, regardless of how many scum were remaining in the game (which no one would know). The bus would be strange because the dopog wagon came out of nowhere.In post 579, Architect of Thought wrote:2) He says there's two scum on here, chastizes Kdub for 'assuming there's only two scum', then gives a way out for his next statement by saying "it'd be a pretty strange bus". Seems odd.
It's simple. At the time of 356, all my reads were either town or null. 357 pushed dopog onto the scum side of null for me, hence why he "didnt look good" but was not a scumread (still extremely null). Believing there are scum on a wagon shouldn't taint my individual reads on any of the wagon's players, so while I felt there were 2 scum on the wagon I had no way of picking them out.In post 579, Architect of Thought wrote:There's these two posts:In post 356, Toomai wrote:All I have right now are towns and nulls.So he doesn't have scumreads, but agrees dopog doesn't look good, but thinks there could be two scumbuddies bussing him, but that would be a strange bus.In post 376, Toomai wrote:I agree that dopog doesn't look very good right now
You guys got all that? Good.
Given this game's shortish deadlines, and probable glut of town power roles, daytalk would be a decent balancing option.In post 579, Architect of Thought wrote:Seems odd to bring up... This isn't a strong part of my case, just a note.In post 391, Toomai wrote:That said I think there might be 2 scum on here,especially if they have daytalk.
Yeah right now I'm just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. Every living player I read within 10% of null right now. I'm generally clueless.In post 579, Architect of Thought wrote:And his vote on Shoe today is kinda bad.
To be honest, I didn't want to pick a "real" PR because I haven't gotten one yet "for reals" on this site. That'd be cheap. I was also totally convinced that being an Enabler would require me to know what I enabled, based on the wiki page not including "no-knowledge" as a variant. I can't think of any reason to fakeclaim it either.In post 579, Architect of Thought wrote:In post 530, Toomai wrote:Claim: Town Enabler
Don't know what I enable, but it's implied there's more than one.Not 100% sure how to feel about this claim. He's either town enabling a scum role, town enabling a town role, or scum fakeclaiming/enabling their own role. Claiming to pick Enabler seems odd and his logic is bad. Why pick Enabler and not a power role of your own when it's not guaranteed you'll be told another role? Then again, of all the things to fakeclaim, why fakeclaim Enabler?In post 536, Toomai wrote:I chose Enabler because I figured I'd then be told at least one role elsewhere in the game. That didn't happen.
The answer isn't totally obvious?In post 582, dopog wrote:hi;
@Stubbs; do you have any reads?
Also answer my question Who;
dopog wrote:@Who; Why do you think there is another town-aligned vig ala #477?
Was leaning slightly town on Who at the end of yesterday. Nothing today has really changed my opinion of him. Why do you find him scummy?
Why?In post 588, Kdub wrote:Anyway, regardless, we are lynching Toomai today. Trust me on this.
D. Something better.In post 589, Toomai wrote:Why?In post 588, Kdub wrote:Anyway, regardless, we are lynching Toomai today. Trust me on this.Put these reasons in order.
- Because of the self-admittance to not having a clue about anyone?
- Because the vote to start the day was bad and no real progress has been made since then to change it?
- Because no claimed Town Enabler should live through the night even when there's a (small) chance he might enable scum roles and both that night's kills were on obv-towns?
At risk of sounding pretentious, in my four previous games I remained alive until endgame and was never lynched (only nightkilled). So I wasn't worried about dying too early in this game. What you should be worried about is lynching a claimed Enabler. Make the scum decide whether to kill me.In post 593, StubbsKVM wrote:If it is indeed his role, he should be aware of what happens if he dies.
| Player | D1 start | TIP shot | Guyett shot | End of day |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| JasonWazza | 1be1 | Toomai (5), 1be1 | 1be1 | |
| The Purple Shoe | TIP | 1be1 | Toomai (4) | Toomai (3) |
| Kdub | 1be1 | dopog (3) | 1be1 | 1be1 |
| Who | TIP | dopog (4) | 1be1 | 1be1 |
| StubbsKVM | JW (1) | unvote | no vote | |
| dopog | TIP Toomai (1) | Toomai (1) | ||
| Architect of Thought | 1be1 | TPS (1), unvote | no vote | |
Toomai | Generic | unvote 1be1 | 1be1 | |
Guyett | TIP 1be1 Generic | 1be1 unvote unvote 1be1 | — | — |
Generic | TPS (1), Guyett Pyro unvote | JW (3), 1be1 unvote 1be1 1be1 | dopog (4), 1be1 unvote | no vote |
Pyrotechnics | 1be1 Generic | unvote unvote | Toomai (3), Who (1), Toomai (3), unvote | no vote |
1baldeagle1 | JW (2), Guyett | unvote Toomai (2), dopog (5), JW (1) | Toomai (2) | Toomai (2) |
TheIrishPope | Guyett | — | — | — |
