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1-W!nt3r (, Max)
4-Kirbyphreak (, W!nt3r, Flying Dutchman, Adele, PookyTheMagicalBear)
4-Adele (kirbyphreak, armlx, Twito, drake43)

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i never ever voted for adele

logicticus wrote:MOD

i never ever voted for adele

Whoa..sorry there

I'm still going to have to

If he turns out to not be lying, I'll feel like crap, but it seems too scummy for two cops to claim. I hate to vote a claiming cop, but... Maybe one of them is insane and the other isn't, so I guess we've got like a 50/50.

dude....what choice did I have? at 1 from lynch, should I have claimed doc to seem more likely? It annoys me that we have to get 2 powers in the open already, but lynching 1 of them wont help.

Well, it's not so much the claim as much as the logic in defending it.

kirbyphreak wrote:I know that I am innocent, so W!nter must be insane. that increases my chances of being sane greatly, so I will

Vote:Adele

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That doesn't exactly inspire confidence in me. Relying on you to say your innocent to make another player insane isn't good logic. Nothing personal.

Sentinel99 wrote:Well, it's not so much the claim as much as the logic in defending it.

kirbyphreak wrote:I know that I am innocent, so W!nter must be insane. that increases my chances of being sane greatly, so I will

Vote:Adele

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That doesn't exactly inspire confidence in me. Relying on you to say your innocent to make another player insane isn't good logic. Nothing personal.

I think there is perfectly good logic in that post.

If kirby is a cop w!nter must be insane cop and when we lynch adele we will find out whether kirby was telling the truth. If adele really is scum we have 'proven' sane cop, kirby. If adele is innocent we lynch kirby who must be lying in that case. Then we have 'proven' sane cop, w!nt3r.

Well, I know Im innocent. If we lynch Adele, and she is innocent, Im either insane or scum. However, If im insane, then W!nter is insane too. Thats VERY unlikely, so I feel that I am sane. Therefore, Adele is scum.

curse you simulpost....

Oh boy. Two cop claims and two guilty investigations? The way it seems to me, either one is insane, or is a scum who cannot hope to survive much longer after something like this.

Right now, it is probably less risky (in terms of losing a cop) to lynch Adele instead of kirby. We seem to have a strategy for every eventuality planned out anyway, and by the end of it we should have confirmed a sane cop and/or caught a scum at least.

putting it at five. However, we should wait to hear from her before proceeding, in case there's something we overlooked.

And re: post by Max a long ways back: technically, the Swinton group should have 3 people, so we're probably looking at that many scum. Not 2 (which would also put the mafia at a greater disadvantage). To suggest that there would only be 2 is rather strange and seemed more geared toward attacking W!nt3r.

kirbyphreak wrote:I am Tim Canterbury, cop. I checked Adele last night, and got guilty. I know that I am innocent, so W!nter must be insane. that increases my chances of being sane greatly, so I will

Vote:Adele

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This whole game was bothering me so much, I rented the episode/s where My character, Gareth... Starts his investigations... I see now why I would be considered both a cop and insane I'm sorry I screwed that up... I should have checked sanitiy n1... I'll Recind my vote on Phreak for now...

yeah, i think gareth is most likely insane or even paranoid if he is a cop role

Ah, so you are Gareth.

I think that clears up a lot. Currently I believe your claim. Kirby's innocence is unproved, but I think we'll find out soon.

And ... it just seems odder the more I think about it.

Hey, guys! Sorry for may absence. What's happening?

*reads*

Ah. Right, okay, I see what you did there.

To answer an earlier question, a "lepton" is a ploy whereby scum claim cop, present a guilty investigation of an innocent and, when it comes up innocent, say "oh, whoops, I guess I must be paranoid". That's one of the reasons why cops don't usually come out on Day 1, even with a guilty investiagtion (but instead breadcrumb the guilty party in case they get lynched/nightkilled). So, thanks to Winter for starting this all.

I guess my recourse is to point out that (1) Winter has her sanity (as I understand it), and that you know have two people claiming that kirby's scum (since I'm innocent, obv), and point to probability; are we supposed to believe that it's as likely that the crazy cop investigated the proper cop while the proper cop investigated scum the crazy cop cam out first, Day 1, than it is that a cop was foolish enough to come out Day 1 and the scum tried a gambit to get an extra day/night (perhaps because he has a one-shot night ability, or perhaps out of desperation and "no downside)?

Of course the latter is more likely, but what you must consider is how more likely it is (since Kirby's claimed that lynching him = lynching cop). It's a shame pm-quoting's disallowed in this game, but I think the next step is to require a name-claim from Kirby; if it's plausible, require one from me. I'll start by claiming (to simplify things) but I'd ask people to bear in mind this isn't the usual cop coming out with a result - before he claimed, his death was assured, and he's been accused himself. He lacks plausibility.

Obv, , and I hope that what I've written makes sense (basically, don't forget / dismiss winter's input and the fact the it preceded Kirby's claim).

Kirby did name-claim... to a character that stands a reasonable chance of being a sane cop.

kirby wrote:I am Tim Canterbury, cop.

Granted, it is not guaranteed that he is telling the truth, and the circumstances for his coming out were not ideal. I am not 100% sure myself. But the best course of action is not to kill him outright.

Adele wrote:Winter has guaranteed her* sanity (as I understand it)

W!nt3r has claimed to be Gareth, a potentially paranoid/insane character, and has admitted so himself. Sanity is no guarantee. I do believe he is a cop of sort, as he had little to gain by coming out so early, had he been scum. There is also the fact that he did not research his character until his sanity was brought into doubt... not sure whether that's a good sign or not, depends on how you read it.

Anyway, as far as we know, W!nt3r's investigation does not tell us kirby's affiliation. Nothing's changed. Given these circumstances, I am not inclined to lynch kirby, nor do I think Adele is cleared. A name-claim might be helpful at this point.

*Oh and:
W!nt3r = male
wintergreen = female

Perfectly happy with my vote. I'll also be away for the weekend, have fun lynching Kirby without me!

*jumps in front of Adele*

Not her! Not again!

How would we sup beneath starlit nights of cantaloupes and honeydew if you kill her!?

This so reeks of scum who's been caught on his last legs trying to get an innocent lynched before going down himself!

I think that one cop is telling truth other is lieing If the otheris telling the truth

At this point with the claims we have, Im also more apt to believe that Adele is actually scum with kirby a sane cop and winter a paranoid cop.

Or then again Kirkby may be lieing and winter (not green) is also lieing Erm I trust Kirkby just once and am going to

Okay, that's 6 votes. Hopefully we'll let Adele speak again before anyone hammers, because lynching someone with a Questionable Content Faye avatar makes me feel spiritual unease and makes kittens cry.

That said, I still think she's guilty

@Max, do you have anything to say about what I mentioned earlier-- it's a little odd that you suggested there were only 2 scum, which is highly unlikely, and seemed anxious to disprove W!nt3r's claim when most people believed it. What was your intent there?

Just a note: Me or W!nter will probably be targeted tonight by the scum. If we have a doc, just randomly choose one. That will give us best odds. Or protect whoever you think is best.

I believe w!nt3r is cop of some sort so:

1) w!nt3r is sane cop, kirby is lying and adele is innocent
2) w!nt3r is insane/paranoid cop, kirby is sane cop and adele is scum.

However I don't believe kirby is paranoid/insane cop, he must be either sane or lying.

My current vote is based on the number 2 coz by lynching kirby we have a change of losing a sane cop.

Out of town for the weekend for a day or two. Don't replace me. Cheers!