Micro 296: We Need a Fifth! (Game Over!)

[TheButtonmen]

Welcome to Micro 296!

Rule Set:

1. Site Rules; know them, follow them.
2. Red is my colour, don't use it.
3. Prods go out approximately three days without a post and I start looking for a replacement after approximately thirty six hours.
4. Votes should follow the format of Vote: Player Name.
5. As the mod I reserve the right to change anything at anytime.

Set Up:

2 Vanilla Townies
2 Mafia Goon

Sample Role PM's:

Welcome to Micro 296! You are a Vanilla Townie!

Abilities:

If you are lynched day 1, you are not lynched and must choose a player to kill.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Welcome to Micro 296! You are a Mafia Goon, along with your partner, [Player Name]!

Abilities:

If you are lynched day 1, you must confirm one of the town players as town. You may communicate with your partner during the day as well.

Win condition:

You win when all members of the town have been eliminated or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Special Mechanics:

- Nightless
- If a townie is lynched day 1, he does not get lynched and instead chooses a player to kill.
- If a mafia member is lynched day 1, he has to confirm one of the town players as town.
- If there is one scum and one town left, it is a scum victory.

Player List:

Zekrom25
springlullaby
Impact
beastcharizard

Important Links:

Pregame beings!
Day 1 ends with Zekom25 being lynched!
Day 2 begins with Impact being confirmed as town!
Day 2 ends with beastcharizard being lynched!

Alive (2/4):

springlullaby
Impact

Dead (2/4):

Zekrom25
beastcharizard

[TheButtonmen]

Pregame begins now and will end once three people have confirmed in thread!

[Zekrom25]

/confirm

[Impact]

/confirm

[springlullaby]

/confirm

[beastcharizard]

/confirm

[Impact]

Looks like the mod needs a prod!

[TheButtonmen]

Actually I rushed the gun a bit on creating this so

Day 1 will begin once the Queue has been updated.

Sorry for the delay, my bad!

[TheButtonmen]

Day 1 begins now!

[beastcharizard]

I think we can post now.

VOTE: Zekrom25

Charizard is the best dragon type pokemon.

He can mega-evolve into a dragon type pokemon for anyone who is going to try and say Charizard isn't a dragon type.

[springlullaby]

Hi guys,

VOTE: springlullaby

I borked the game, best vote for the day.

[beastcharizard]

Why is that the best vote?

Did you read the other game?

[springlullaby]

What other game? I never played with you before.

It's the best vote because it gives the best odds to town.

Voting blind:
- 50% chance to lynch scum D1
- - if scum is lynched, 33% chance to hit scum D2

Voting me and conf me as town:
- 66,66 % chance to hit scum with my vengeful kill D1
-- 50% chance to lynch scum D2

I see no why the game should played differently.

[beastcharizard]

On the wiki there is a game of this that was played before. It is like 7 pages.

Your math is wrong.

Lynch scum D1 and they have to confirm one town player making it a 50/50 shot for the confirmed player.

Assuming you aren't lying if you shoot wrong we lose. If you shoot right then it is a 50/50 shot just like it would be if we lynched scum D1.

No matter what it is the best idea to lynch blindly because at the end of the day 1 town person is going to be confirmed but instead of it be 2-2 with a compulsive vig it is 2-1 giving scum less chance to get a mislynch.

[springlullaby]

Hum I missed the maf conf one townie part. But still,

Voting blind is still:
- 50% D1
- if scum is lynched, 50% D2

Whereas with vengeful kill it's 66% and 50%.

And I'm good at finding scum

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beast I don't understand what you are saying, why you say it's 2-1 with the vengekill. I don't die anyway if I get lynched, so it's still 2-2, but with one conf townie. So what?

[Impact]

Voting blind

Here is the flaw in your plan. We won't be doing this. We would be trying to find scum using our scumhunting abilities so we have a much better chance of hitting scum. If you are as good at scumhunting, you can lynch scum at a better rate than random so there is no need to assume random chance at all.

[springlullaby]

But you are wrong, I expect my chances of finding scum to be actually higher than 66,66%, if left by myself.
But lynching blind, I have to deal with scum manipulation which lower my chances drastically, which I don't need to if I get the vengeful kill.

[beastcharizard]

I said 2-1 because it would be a compulsive vig so no matter what someone has to die at that point. I don't know if use of the dayvig ends the cycle though.

If you are town aren't you chances of finding the scum already 66%?

[springlullaby]

Of finding scum

[springlullaby]

oops hit submit instead of preview.

Of

finding

scum, yes.
But of

lynching

scum, no.

Because if I don't get the vengekill, I don't control entirely who is lynched obviously.

Hum, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying beast.
What do you mean does dayvig ends the cycle?

[Impact]

The same applies to everyone. Considering we all believe ourselves to be good scumhunters, by following your plan, we'd all be stuck voting ourselves, wouldn't we?

[springlullaby]

Impact, if you are implying that you are town (I have no judgment about that at the moment) and that you'd like to be voted too: I called dib first.

Also, what do you think of beast?

[Zekrom25]

beast vote seems forced Zekrom is born as a dragon type charizard is not

Vote: No One

[beastcharizard]

Like does the Dayvig end the current day and take us to the next one or do we continue to vote after the kill?

[Zekrom25]

50/50 seems risky