Mini 1569: Scum Topic

[Kalimar]

This is the topic where Mafia can discuss their dastardly strategies.

(Let's hope I did this right. Either way, this colour is an affront to the eyes.)

[Slainte Mhath]

So excited!!! Hi Slandaar! Hey Kush! We are going to win this thing!!!!

[Slainte Mhath]

Beli checking in.

Just to fill you in on what's going on in our Hydra QT

-We're going to try to get Baezu to do most of the in-thread posting, while I keep to our QT, but I dearly love playing scum and will almost certainly be beaking off in here quite a bit. I can't stop myself.
-We may be signing posts as our "secret third head," gin.
-I'm looking for a player to try to manufacture a false associative tell with in case we are lynched. If that gets off the ground, we'll let you know what we're doing the following night phase in case one of you needs to "find" it after we flip.

Planning a D1 lynch in advance is a massive waste of time, since we don't know what the game state will be like, but we should be thinking ahead N1 and onwards. This feels a bit like I'm giving up homework, but over the course of the Day, I'd like each of you to decide who you'd hypothetically want to wind up in 3p lylo with and why. That can help guide our NK choices so we don't wind up slinging bullets at someone's ideal lylo partners. Finding PRs will naturally cause these scenarios to evolve as the game progresses, but I'd like us all keeping it in mind each night. In the event of conflicts, we can still use preferred lylo partners to sort out our best kill -- if we need to shoot at someone's ideal lylo mate, pick the scumbuddy who looks most likely to be lynched and kill their lylo match over someone more likely to actually make it to lylo.

I haven't finished discussing this with Baezu, but at the moment I'm thinking my ideal lylo scenario would be me, bjc, and sthar8; bjc because I think his playstyle makes him pretty lynchable, and sthar8 because he spanked townBeli pretty hard in Antihero mafia and I can easily fake anti-sthar8 paranoia in order to stay off a bjc wagon until/unless it's a game-winning hammer.

I'd advise against planning to go into lylo with 2 lynchbait players, otherwise you're vulnerable to a burden of proficiency argument. That's why I want one player I could reasonably be expected to be afraid of and one who I wouldn't.

lylo planning doesn't really come into play N0, but as soon as I read that sweet red role PM, scumBeli Machiavelli springs into existence and I can't help myself.

[Kalimar]

Closed until N1.

[Kalimar]

Open until D2. Post actions in bold here or PM me.

[Slainte Mhath]

All right, what thinkest thou?

[Slandaar]

Kill Pim

Elyse could be PR she seems off.
MME seems like he got town status then lurked out as a PR
bjc I got some feeling he is but eh maybe not.

But; kill Pim just seems sensible to me.

[Slainte Mhath]

We were going to set up associative tells with him

[Slainte Mhath]

I guess we could pick someone else

[Slandaar]

You don't need to lay associative tells because you are not being lynched aye?

[Slandaar]

Also I am a 2 shot tracker I like the idea of tracking Elyse tonight.

You are both goons?

[Slainte Mhath]

We are a goon

[Slainte Mhath]

you are not being lynched aye?

In a perfect world, aye, but I like to be ready for when shit starts rolling downhill, and there are a couple of people who want us dead.

I think Pim's an alright pick, he's not been under any pressure and will probably be pretty damned tough to lynch. The same is true of bjc, though...

Given that ger was a leading wagon D1 it'll probably be pretty hard to get people to focus on him D2, so ger makes a good alternative NK.

Can anyone think of a way that we can use the NK strategically to mitigate the inevitable pressure that's going to manifest against kush tomorrow?

-Beli

[Slainte Mhath]

On the perception-management front, I think we can get away with being easily persuaded by you (@Slandaar) tomorrow, since we weren't on the vonflare lynch, so if you see an opportune direction to try to swing the game, try a reach-out.

@kush: same basic logic applies to you, if the pressure I'm expecting on you somehow fails to manifest.

You should definitely not be on the same wagons together tomorrow, though.

[Slainte Mhath]

So who are we nking?

-baezu

[Slandaar]

In a perfect world, aye, but I like to be ready for when shit starts rolling downhill, and there are a couple of people who want us dead.

Yeah thats why pew pew Pim less people who want you dead.

I think Pim's an alright pick, he's not been under any pressure and will probably be pretty damned tough to lynch. The same is true of bjc, though...

Yes except bjc has had pressure and his suspicions have not been so accurate.

Given that ger was a leading wagon D1 it'll probably be pretty hard to get people to focus on him D2, so ger makes a good alternative NK.

Uh no we are not killing Ger. He is a nice tasty mislynch.

Can anyone think of a way that we can use the NK strategically to mitigate the inevitable pressure that's going to manifest against kush tomorrow?

Killing Pim does have the benefit of setting up six somewhat, more pressure on six than kush is a way to mitigate it.

The only reason you wouldn't kill Pim is protection roles being there but eh, just kill him I think protection roles can go elsewhere and there might not be one etc.

[Slandaar]

Hows the hydraing? I have never been a hydra! defending you using hydra dissonance was somewhat amusing but is the reason I don't like them...

[Slainte Mhath]

I love being in a hydra. It mitigates the drudgery of rolling town.

-B

[Slainte Mhath]

Uh, right, so that shorthand totally isn't going to work in this hydra. That last post was also me.

-Beli

[Slainte Mhath]

Do we care who carries out the kill? I'm thinking kush, since he's under the most suspicion. We could do it, too.

[Slainte Mhath]

If Kush doesn't get in here on time can we still say he executes the kill? I'm in agreement, Pim it is.

Slandaar, I would love to be your first

(Hydra partner that is ;p)

[Slainte Mhath]

^baezu

[Slainte Mhath]

Beli, we're a B and B!

[Slandaar]

Could kill Eeky or Sthar but I don't see anyone else worth killing and in thread I wasn't joking about hydras

[Kalimar]

Don't forget to bold stuff if you're sending actions in here or I won't count it.