I'm not pushing for his lynch, I'm pushing my plan.In post 51, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:About your plan, not quite. Any two where one gave fruit to the other CAN be scum together because the first kills and claims giving fruit to the second.
So yeah, I'd say it should be optional if we lynch mafia today but not otherwise.
About my vote, I distrust everyone on your wagon. Votes for something that is obviously dependent on playstyle instead of alignment is horrible for town, and bulge is pushing you the most suspiciously.
At this point, unless someone suggests a gamebreaking strategy, I see no reason to stray from forcing a No Kill. Maybe the plan would catch a scum, but it could take a while to find him, plus things could get really crazy with multiple fruit. I'm just not up for taking a gamble like that at this point.In post 51, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:About your plan, not quite. Any two where one gave fruit to the other CAN be scum together because the first kills and claims giving fruit to the second.
So yeah, I'd say it should be optional if we lynch mafia today but not otherwise.
About my vote, I distrust everyone on your wagon. Votes for something that is obviously dependent on playstyle instead of alignment is horrible for town, and bulge is pushing you the most suspiciously.
Yep.In post 51, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:About your plan, not quite. Any two where one gave fruit to the other CAN be scum together because the first kills and claims giving fruit to the second.
I'm not voting you to "further my plan", I'm voting you because I think you are scum. Where did this assumption come from? Your plan makes it easier for scum early-game, so I think you are scum. It's that simple. This is nothing but OMGUS.In post 57, hayatoBL wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: TheBuldge
@TSO and Aronis
Are you also voting for me to further your plan or is it because you think I'm scum? If it's the latter why?
Normally, if you think a person is scum, you would want to push for his lynch don't you?The Bulge wrote: I'm not voting you to "further my plan", I'm voting you because I think you are scum. Where did this assumption come from? Your plan makes it easier for scum early-game, so I think you are scum. It's that simple.
In post 54, The Bulge wrote:
I'm not pushing for his lynch, I'm pushing my plan.
Also, isn't voting for me based on only this also dependent on playstyle instead of alignment?
I never said, I think you're scum though.This is nothing but OMGUS.
In post 59, The Bulge wrote:I'm not voting you to "further my plan", I'm voting you because I think you are scum. Where did this assumption come from? Your plan makes it easier for scum early-game, so I think you are scum. It's that simple. This is nothing but OMGUS.
So you're voting without pushing for a lynch? Instead, you're pushing your plan? Why exactly aren't you trying to lynch him if you think he's scum?In post 54, The Bulge wrote:
I'm not pushing for his lynch, I'm pushing my plan.
Also, isn't voting for me based on only this also dependent on playstyle instead of alignment?
Sure. But our plan has less holes elsewhere for them to exploit this - if someone dies either the person above them is scum or scum gave fruit to one another. Like, your plan relies on scum mis-stepping to be better than our plan tbh. I don't think this is a good assumption to make. Hmm. You know, I can't actually see whats wrong with it right now. Dangit. I need to go way more in-depth...hayatoBL wrote:Yep.In post 51, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:About your plan, not quite. Any two where one gave fruit to the other CAN be scum together because the first kills and claims giving fruit to the second.
But your plan has this problem also.
And I'm assuming you are still unsure. Please do tell us when you are sure.In post 58, T S O wrote:A combination. I thought you were scum because I don't think your plan is optimal to ours, but on second thought, I'm not sure that's really a scumtell.
In post 47, hayatoBL wrote:Siveuere: in the mean time why the bulge?
These posts are 10 posts apart. Going from "Why the Bulge?" to a vote and then immediately making a case against me.In post 57, hayatoBL wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: TheBuldge
@TSO and Aronis
Are you also voting for me to further your plan or is it because you think I'm scum? If it's the latter why?
In post 61, hayatoBL wrote:Normally, if you think a person is scum, you would want to push for his lynch don't you?The Bulge wrote: I'm not voting you to "further my plan", I'm voting you because I think you are scum. Where did this assumption come from? Your plan makes it easier for scum early-game, so I think you are scum. It's that simple.
As I mentioned, I wasn't pushing for a lynch at the time because we were still discussing night plans.In post 62, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:In post 59, The Bulge wrote:I'm not voting you to "further my plan", I'm voting you because I think you are scum. Where did this assumption come from? Your plan makes it easier for scum early-game, so I think you are scum. It's that simple. This is nothing but OMGUS.So you're voting without pushing for a lynch? Instead, you're pushing your plan? Why exactly aren't you trying to lynch him if you think he's scum?In post 54, The Bulge wrote:
I'm not pushing for his lynch, I'm pushing my plan.
Also, isn't voting for me based on only this also dependent on playstyle instead of alignment?
No you don't, Siveure does. You're piggybacking off his logic.In post 61, hayatoBL wrote:In post 54, The Bulge wrote:
I'm not pushing for his lynch, I'm pushing my plan.
Also, isn't voting for me based on only this also dependent on playstyle instead of alignment?I never said, I think you're scum though.This is nothing but OMGUS.
1) I really don't see where you're going with this "don't waste time on night plans" thing. We have another week and a half before night, and town night plans are extremely crucial to this setup. We can't go into the night without a good plan that everyone agrees on.In post 65, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Here's what points to you being mafia.
1) Your "playstyle" seems to be trying to keep us with no player information, which is indicative of scum. We lose out a lot by discussing how we use the fruit all day then having to compromise deadline lynch, and you seem to have 0 intention of talking about anything but the fruit.
2) You've decided he's scum to be lynched really fast.
I never made a case on you.In post 67, The Bulge wrote: These posts are 10 posts apart. Going from "Why the Bulge?" to a vote and then immediately making a case against me.
I never said I agree with his logic, either. There's two votes on you, but only one of us thinks you're scum.In post 61, hayatoBL wrote: No you don't, Siveure does. You're piggybacking off his logic.
Just because most of you disagree with my plan, it doesn't makes *me* the one who's stupid.In post 69, mathbandit wrote:Just because hayatoBL is stupid doesn't make him Scum. As long as sometime before the end of the Day he agrees with the correct Fruit plan, nothing is gained from lynching him based on a mistake about the best way to handle the set-up.