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In post 4197, Slandaar wrote:Yeah.

You were.

Reinoe was town.

VOTE: Boon

Shouldn't that make Reinoe scum, not Boon?
What am I missing here?

In post 4197, Slandaar wrote:Yeah.

You were.

Reinoe was town.

VOTE: Boon

Oh, was he?

I was also town there, Thor.

I haven't been keeping up enough to want to be on this wagon.

Yes?

That is an important detail Boon.

In post 4155, Izariael wrote:I fail to see why people could be townreading him, unless it's his meta to lurk incessantly and tunnel blindly, but that's about the extent of my interest in him at this point. I just find it rather amusing that he lurks for days, then comes back to offer nothing new and another vanity vote that will achieve very little, if anything, then completely shuts down any attempts to engage him on it.

I'm really not understanding your point about fussing. I asked a question. He evaded it twice, so I continued to ask for a proper answer. If that's fussing, then damn do we have a lot of fussiness in this game, and every game ever.

At this point, I don't really think its about scumreading or town reading him. He's a claimed BP townie. Trying to draw the nightkill as bp town the optimal play. So that's kinda believable. Could he fake that as scum? Could he actually be bp scum? yes to both. Is his play bad? yes. But even if Boon is scum then there's going to be non Boon scum. But yeah, I think its in the best interest of the town to not lynch him right off the bat. I also think there's scum motivation in wanting to lynch a claimed bp.

So remind me of your non Boon scum reads.

In post 4201, Boonskiies wrote:Oh, was he?

I was also town there, Thor.

So?

You said he was town and had the same reaction I had.
He just called my reaction a scum reaction.

So...what do you think that says about him? That he doesn't remember his town reactions or that he thinks what he does as town is scummy, or what?

Also - vote Dave please.

Boon: 'I have seen someone do this before hammer them!' ... said person was town.

In post 4164, Thor665 wrote:Why not move and reinvigorate it?
It's less dead than your wagon of choice at the moment.

^This... is actually what I'm seeing from the game too. Thor is actually right that there isn't much vote movement. I don't feel like there's time for me to seriously put any pressure on anyone else, but I can tell that this is going to be a much different game for me.

In post 4153, Shiro wrote:You accusse people for not pushing yada yada but the last couple days your pushes have been pretty weak to none existant.
Have u even pushed any wagon past 3 votes ?

^Having no support for any of his pushes would actually alignment indicative of town Thor. However, they have thus far been shallow, reaching, and vague. I'm agreeing with Shiro, but I think this is just being used to throw dirt. Shiro where are you at in the game?

pedit: ninja'd
ppedit: ninja, ninja, ninja'd
ppedit: uggh why wait until the last second?

In post 4206, Slandaar wrote:Boon: 'I have seen someone do this before hammer them!' ... said person was town.

That suggests Boon had enough man parts to make a call on what he thought.
He didn't.

Of more interest is Reinoe - who did exactly what you're saying there.
So even if you think boon is scummy for it - certainly Reinoe is too, yes?

@Slandaar

let me get this correct....in a previous game Boon fake hammered someone. And Boon pointed out that he's done the same thing and you think Boon is scum for that?

In post 4203, Slandaar wrote:Yes?

That is an important detail Boon.

Oh is this about that awful minimince I game?

No.

The one with Bob/Elyse etc and were lynched D1. That is obviously what he is talking about.

In post 4209, Nero Cain wrote:@Slandaar

let me get this correct....in a previous game Boon fake hammered someone. And Boon pointed out that he's done the same thing and you think Boon is scum for that?

He fake-hammered someone, they had Thor's reaction, and they were town.

He claims that Thor is scum because he did what another player did in the same situation as town.

Which is pretty dumb, not gonna lie.

Maybe I meant yes Reinoe.

In post 4198, Thor665 wrote:

In post 4194, Nero Cain wrote:

intent to hammer

Cool - why do you find me worthy to hammer?

Claim: 1-shot JKer

Target - GM

I mostly wanted you to claim. I'm also agreeing with reinoe that it was silly to wait and claim until you were at l-1 and then not give your final reads. So why'd you target GM?

Thor, I don't understand why you would want a GM lynch earlier if you Jailkept her. What were the results?

Oh, haha. Slandaar was also in that game. I forgot. But yes, it was that game in which I believe I am referring to. But yeah, I feel Thor is doing the same thing Reinoe did in that game. Reinoe ended up claiming Nurse. He was VT.

In post 4215, Josh_B wrote:Thor, I don't understand why you would want a GM lynch earlier if you Jailkept her. What were the results?

There is so much bad in this game.

In post 4193, reinoe wrote:Guys this is a scum claim...

Doesn't know if he's hammered or not but doesn't post final thoughts.
While not explicitly denying town info, saying "my reads are in my other posts" is inconvenient.

In post 4195, Boonskiies wrote:I believe I've been in a game where Reinoe did the exact same thing as Thor is doing now. And I was in Reinoe's spot with the fake hammer.

In post 4196, Boonskiies wrote:So yes, hammer Thor.

As usual in this game, i am starting to feel like I am insane.

Both of these derfs both expressed the same thought - if one of them is scummy then both of them are scummy.
Why are we only talking about one of them?

Why are more people not voting Dave?
Even if you hate Boon for his derptitude play - Dave was doing the same things and kind of being shifty about it at the same time.

In post 4215, Josh_B wrote:Thor, I don't understand why you would want a GM lynch earlier if you Jailkept her. What were the results?

The results were that I submitted a JK on GM.
How do you think I should have read it?

In post 4200, Thor665 wrote:Shouldn't that make Reinoe scum, not Boon?
What am I missing here?

No?

How would it make Reinoe scum?

I mean it is debatable if the reaction is the same. But Boon says it is. That is what is important because he is saying to hammer someone for a reaction he saw once from town.

...

Agreeing with the sentiment being shown here. If you're a one-shot JKer and you've expended your power already, why wait to claim?

And why use your power this early in the game? It seems like waiting until at least one scum had flipped would have been better play, but I'm a newbie, so maybe I'm not seeing it.

I originally thought when posting that, that Reinoe was scum. I only vaguely remembered it anyways. I went back and checked after Slandaar spoke up, which is why I unvoted Thor.

In post 4214, Nero Cain wrote:I mostly wanted you to claim.

Then you are a pro-scum player.

In post 4214, Nero Cain wrote: I'm also agreeing with reinoe that it was silly to wait and claim until you were at l-1 and then not give your final reads.

My reads are out there, just not in a neat format.

In post 4214, Nero Cain wrote:So why'd you target GM?

Gut.
Why shouldn't I have?
Who should I have targeted instead?

In post 4221, Scripten wrote:

Thor:

Agreeing with the sentiment being shown here. If you're a one-shot JKer and you've expended your power already, why wait to claim?

Because an L-1 wagon is more useful for town later for analysis purposes.

In post 4221, Scripten wrote:And why use your power this early in the game?

Because I am town in a large - Thor don't live till later too often.

In post 4221, Scripten wrote:It seems like waiting until at least one scum had flipped would have been better play, but I'm a newbie, so maybe I'm not seeing it.

It's a JK in a limited fashion in a large - it was functionally useless anyway.