Mini 1618: Profia (Game Over)

[Tierce]

Votecount 4.5

(1)

Belisarius

- Madonna
(1)

bruin228

- LynxKuroneko
(1)

SleepyKrew

- Belisarius

(2)

Not voting

-

(Belisarius,)

SleepyKrew, bruin228

With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
The deadline is November 24 at 9:35 PM PST. Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2014-11-24 21:35:00)

[Belisarius]

My dear Director Lebwohl, you seem to be full of reasons why I'm a bad lynch, yet you continue to call for my blood. Wherefore?

[Madonna]

A bad lynch? I thought all of that sounded good, Belisarius; you will have to help me out with where it went wrong, of course.

[Madonna]

Popping up to prod dodge prior to gaming tonight, and to shake my head at the lack of replies. I know, the weekend, but the day ends come Monday, yeah?

[Tierce]

Votecount 4.6

(1)

Belisarius

- Madonna
(1)

bruin228

- LynxKuroneko
(1)

SleepyKrew

- Belisarius

(2)

Not voting

- SleepyKrew, bruin228

With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
The deadline is November 24 at 9:35 PM PST. Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2014-11-24 21:35:00)

[Belisarius]

you will have to help me out with where it went wrong

-Acryon was always on the same wagon as me
-I refused to put bruin at L-1

These things are not consistent with a scum wincon.

What I've not seen from you is a reason I

should

be lynched, and that's not the kind of thought process I saw from you in that 2of4 game at EoFF.

[SleepyKrew]

-Acryon was always on the same wagon as me
-I refused to put bruin at L-1

These things are not consistent with a scum wincon.

I don't see the problem with either.

[Tierce]

bruin228 and LynxKuroneko have been prodded.

[Belisarius]

I don't see the problem with either.

Good point-missing there.

You don't see the problem with both of these being mentioned by someone who hasn't given a single argument of equivalent strength why I could be scum, yet is pushing a wagon on me anyways?

[SleepyKrew]

Oh yeah I was thrown off by your wording.
Hmm

[LynxKuroneko]

Why do I get the feeling nobody here wants to win? (Except maybe Madonna).

[Madonna]

@Belisarius, 855: acryon could have been banking on that, and bruin could be your buddy. Anything is possible. You could do yourself a favor and save yourself when you know you are town and get rid of one of your reads.

Seeing as you are my likely suspect or a key to others, I cannot apologize for going where my suspicions lead.

[Tierce]

Votecount 4.7

(1)

Belisarius

- Madonna
(1)

bruin228

- LynxKuroneko
(1)

SleepyKrew

- Belisarius

(2)

Not voting

- SleepyKrew, bruin228

With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
The deadline is November 24 at 9:35 PM PST. Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2014-11-24 21:35:00)

[Belisarius]

You could do yourself a favor and save yourself when you know you are town and get rid of one of your reads.

Or I could have been wrong and handed the scum a win through overconfidence like I did in A Memory of Light. Never again.

[Madonna]

@Belisarius: you would not be handing a scum SleepyKrew a win with one mislynch, else he would have hammered you to have his one mislynch and one night kill and one victory.

You are essentially being a live contradiction with voting SleepyKrew and refusing to vote bruin. When we talk wincons, the ones which should be influencing your reads/votes are your own and SleepyKrew's.

What is your wincon, Belisarius, and how do you best achieve that?

What is SleepyKrew's wincon, and how does he best achieve that?

Your wincon, should you be town, is death to all mafia, and you need to achieve that by lynching mafia. Being lynched instead of letting a scumread live is against a townie's wincon.

SleepyKrew's wincon, if he is scum, is to mislynch today, kill tonight,

and then fight for another mislynch tomorrow

. His wincon does not end with get a mislynch today and end it with a night kill. Your comparisons to other games are not analogous and misleading; amend yourself.

[Madonna]

Please note I am still willing to believe we can have two scum, that is two with a curl down and a zig across, and that killing you may further that line of investigation, Belisarius. If we have two scum, it literally cannot be SleepyKrew. That is it. He cannot be paired with you, with bruin, with Lynx, or with me, else SleepyKrew and partner would have the game in the bag: one dead today, one tonight, and scum outnumbers town tomorrow. Nope. Did not happen. Not happening.

If we do have two scum, I do not know who the pairing are. I can run through the permutations, but dinner is being served, so you, reader, can wait forever or run through them for everyone.

[Madonna]

Wow, rereading makes me realize some explanations were poorly phrased. In 864, the second-to-last paragraph's second sentence should read: Being lynched while letting a scumread live is against a townie's wincon/Being lynched instead of pursuing a scumread is against a townie's wincon. I write badly; endure it.

[Belisarius]

Being lynched instead of enabling a mislynch absolves me of sole responsibility for the loss. In AMoL, my failure to see Cabdscum made me solely responsible for the scum win.

I will not repeat that mistake by assuming that you and Lynx are town regardless of how much I think Krew/bruin are more optimal lynches than yours truly. If I die today, it is presominantly

your

fault, not mine.

[Belisarius]

In fact....

UNVOTE:

Lynx, my vote is yours until I have quit smoking 100%. Use it wisely.

Mind you, I'm down to one cigarette a day, but any day that starts with a cigarette, I will not assert control of my vote.

[LynxKuroneko]

Mine? I'm hardly reliable. I'm guessing of all of us bruin's most likely to flip scum. His lack of participation now just makes it easier to do so.

[Madonna]

See you guys after work, near deadline.

[bruin228]

Mine? I'm hardly reliable. I'm guessing of all of us bruin's most likely to flip scum. His lack of participation now just makes it easier to do so.

Says the guy who got prodded...

You're confbiasing so hard at this point, you're completely useless honestly

[LynxKuroneko]

I'm already voting you, right? Can I just, vote again?

Vote: bruin228

"You're confbiasing so hard at this point, you're completely useless honestly"

Says the guy who has done nothing pro-town so far.

[bruin228]

What have you done that's pro town?

[LynxKuroneko]

Do you plan to help us lynch scum today? Just a thought.