Saki Achiga-hen episode of side-A Mafia [OK]

[InflatablePie]

can I just call Varsoon and Prof both scum or is it too early to be cocky about things

[Kuro Matsumi]

Your insistence that I didn't answer your question when I did is troubling.
Furthermore, your insistence on finding town-intent is also worth prodding a bit. What is 'town-intent' to you? Where do you see 'town-intent' elsewhere in this game?

When people actually answer questions instead of going around them appearing to answer them when in turn they did nothing.
Sorry but you are scum ^_^

[Profgessor Emotion]

you can call me scum all you want, though varsoon? don't really think so.

[Varsoon]

RE: Kuro's #99:

I also explicitly pointed out Cabd's vote where he said something along the lines of voting Notsci until confirmed innocent.

But, hey, it's okay to ignore that for the sake of arguing against me, right?


@Pie: It's okay to call me scum, but I dunno about Prof yet. The flirtation is there, but not quite blushworthy yet.
I'd like to know why, though. Why's always a good one.

P-EDIT:
Woah, Prof is doing the same thing as me, but talking about our flirting less. D:

[Profgessor Emotion]

Professor (The Mara half at least, no idea what sort of waffle the mastin half will put up) is doing the one thing I requested people not do.

I know old-me was a scum scorcher, but I'm asking you to read the game, not the past. You're clinging to that and I am very sad face over it.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Lufan

I feel like this could have come alot sooner, but w/e.

why lufan?

[InflatablePie]

also Kuro's

reason

for her Varsoon vote in... 71 is weak, but I don't think it's "tryhard scum" as Prof put it. feels more newbtown.

plus I'm not joining a wagon that Varsoon just voted and Prof is prodding someone about to get reasons for jumping on, soooooyeah

pedit - @Prof: Varsoon is town? oh, the WIFOM.
pedit2 - @Varsoon: Why you're scum or why Prof is scum? either way, read my posts.

[Kuro Matsumi]

I also explicitly pointed out Cabd's vote where he said something along the lines of voting Notsci until confirmed innocent.

But, hey, it's okay to ignore that for the sake of arguing against me, right?

It was also his first post of the game, and the third post of the game.
Also he had plenty of time to WOT1 Benjamin.
I still don't get how you got policy lynch out of anything that happened.

[Varsoon]

I honestly don't understand how you're trying to build this push against me, given that the posts in question are in the actual thread and you're explicitly ignoring the cabd quote and the bolded sections.

@KuroMatsumi: Notscience has been a policy lynch in previous games and

cabd's post 8 coupled with

the ways in which players joined without much input had me leaning that the wagon was

likely a quick RVS wagon

and may have some members who are voting it for policy reasons. I don't any of this reflects on Benjamin Applebaum's alignment or those of the people on the wagon, though, which bothers me a little bit. It's null. I like when things are more transparent and black and white.

I have been waiting to make my hot blooded return to Mafia for a while now so of COURSE the mod opens the fucking game while I'm on the can.

VOTE: notsci

Until he inno child tells and then proceeds to be left alive till day eight billion anyways.

This

, coupled with how others jumped on, led me to feel that way.
As for Cabd, sure, early stuff so far hasn't been stellar, but at least there is early stuff so far. If I'm voting anyone as early as RVS, it's to hope to get them posting.

I even talked about how it was null and why it bothered me. I don't see where you're reading 'scum intent'.

[Profgessor Emotion]

I feel like if I keep posting, my real reads will become known before I can talk to mastin about it!

but, maybe.

[Kuro Matsumi]

Because, i did not like your coment on the Benjamin being a policy lynch, felt off, like you were looking for an excuse.
So i took the next step and questioned you about it.
I didn't like your answer.
Suddenly a wagon on me forms.
So my inuition says im voting scum.

[Varsoon]

@Kuro: An excuse for... what?
The wagon on you has formed because of what I've outlined--your reactions to my response fly in the face of the reality of the game.

@Pie: Were your posts the ones calling out the rhetoric? 'Ass-covering' can come from town, too. That's null. Also, players being unsure and using 'probably' in their pushes feels pretty null too, given we're in a large, closed setup. There's likely a lot of people who are going to be unsure of what's what.
Basing reads solely off of those things and putting a lot of confidence in them seems foolhardy at best.

[Cabd]

104:

"This (A serious vote) could have come sooner"
"I have zero idea how or why your lufan vote is a serious read but I'm backing off anyways"


It's like you're trying to use every reason under the sun you can find to justify pressuring me without actually actively pushing.

[Kuro Matsumi]

@Kuro: An excuse for... what?
The wagon on you has formed because of what I've outlined--your reactions to my response fly in the face of the reality of the game.

I do not know, and honestly, i do not care either anymore, nor care about your reasons for thinking Benjamin-san was a policy lynch.
Also do not act like you're the one that formed the wagon on me, you just sheeped voided's reason.

[InflatablePie]

Suddenly a wagon on me forms.
So my inuition says im voting scum.

^like I said

@Pie: Were your posts the ones calling out the rhetoric? 'Ass-covering' can come from town, too. That's null. Also, players being unsure and using 'probably' in their pushes feels pretty null too, given we're in a large, closed setup. There's likely a lot of people who are going to be unsure of what's what.
Basing reads solely off of those things and putting a lot of confidence in them seems foolhardy at best.

everything is null. my personal belief is that Cabd's post feels town to me, whereas yours didn't, given the timing. also your vote on singer was pretty bad, as well as your countervote on Kuro

I feel Prof's push on Cabd is weak (esp given I have a townread on Cabd) and thus Prof's language rubbed me the wrong way

as for your last sentence, gotta start somewhere.

[InflatablePie]

meh

unvote
vote Varsoon

gonna go cook and clean and stuff

[Profgessor Emotion]

104:

"This (A serious vote) could have come sooner"
"I have zero idea how or why your lufan vote is a serious read but I'm backing off anyways"


It's like you're trying to use every reason under the sun you can find to justify pressuring me without actually actively pushing.

you should already know what this is. You should already know that I present reads that are stronger then what they are in reality as a means to solidify them. This is a pretty huge flag and not at all an answer to my question.

[Varsoon]

@Kuro: It was a good reason to sheep and made far more sense than my vote on singer (which came from just not understanding why Singer was voting me), and the points I brought against you as well as what I've asked has been wholly from me.

@Pie: I'm in the position that I know that you're wrong about me, which allows me to extend that to a rationalization that your proposed logic for parsing out scum and town has failed as applied to my slot. Following that, I can figure that your other reads that come from similar logic are likely to be just as flimsy.
It's not that you gotta start somewhere; you gotta step it up.

P-EDIT:

Spoiler: @Pie:

[Kuro Matsumi]

It is pointless to discuss any further with caught scum so im just gonna sit here voting this evil face guy, and instead talk with my new friend Pie-senpai ^_^
I feel i don't even need to refute that point Evil face guy made since it should be obious to anyone reading, but if anyone not named Varsoon asks then sure i'll show it.

[Varsoon]

Well, if you'd like to actually engage with the game, I'll be around to do that.

[Chandra Nalaar]

Yoooooo.

ZZZX is scummy for something I read as insincere.
Cabd looks pretty town for once in his damn life, which does not actually make him town.
Benji keeps making posts that I don't agree with. I don't care enough to do anything with them.
Kuro thinks in an overly simplistic manner. Jury is still out on whether that makes her scum.
IPie in indistinguishable from the scum incarnation I played with years ago. This does not mean anything.

VOTE: ZZZX

Let's lynch this now. It's a solid policy lynch and probably on scum.

[Chandra Nalaar]

Oh, also, mara is town

[Kuro Matsumi]

Cabd looks pretty town for once in his damn life, which does not actually make him town.
Benji keeps making posts that I don't agree with. I don't care enough to do anything with them.
Kuro thinks in an overly simplistic manner. Jury is still out on whether that makes her scum.
IPie in indistinguishable from the scum incarnation I played with years ago. This does not mean anything.

So, we learned nothing about your stances on those 4, and you also didnt take a stance on Varsoon

[Kuro Matsumi]

So Chandra-chan's posts can be summarized as: "ZZZX is scum, also policy. Mara is town" with way less text, why would you appear to be taking stances on people you don't even have a stance on i wonder...
Gut says scum with Varsoon, mostly because no comment on Varsoon at all + Appearing to give info while giving nothing.

[Chandra Nalaar]

As someone who's pretty overconfident, you're very overconfident.

I don't have an opinion about Varsoon.

[Varsoon]

Well you gotta have an opinion



Kuro's really strong-arming this.