Mini 1697 - a Re-balanced Game of Mafia - GAME OVER

[Fluminator]

Maybe I am.

[Thesp]

I thought it was you.

Does anyone think pistachi0n would be the sort that would lie about this? This is important.

[Fluminator]

This is depressing that I was so wrong.
Maybe I want to lynch Dave now.

Don't know about Pistachi0n. Only played one game with her and I was scum.

[Fluminator]

All Alone not doing anything is a bit strange.
Do you think if he was town, scum would be pushing him harder?

[pistachi0n]

Maybe I am.

Why would you say that?

[RadiantCowbells]

RC, your argument against me could also be applied to Dave (with the votes not piling on.) do you think we're scum together?

Probably, but Daves might be town.

I feel like you're refusing to review how yesterday went. Also, what do you think of Ankamius yesterday thinking Netherspite was assuredly scum, but pushing Alchemist21? I'm also not convinced that a lack of movement towards someone is an indication that such a person is scum.

I think that Ankamius could definitely be scum but given we have confirmed scum in Pistachi0n I will be lynching there first.

Pistachi0n is scum. 2 of Ank/Daves/AA are scum as well, and right now I'm leaning AA as the town member of the group.

Like, I'm sorry for fucking up on Netherspite but I had a lot of good reasons to do so, one being the one Ankamius pointed out where scum were refusing to lynch him. This one's still scum.

VOTE: Pistachi0n

[RadiantCowbells]

Like, note that as soon as Thesp started questioning me Pistachi0n is immediately like ZOMG RC IS SCUMMY AF AGAIN!

She's literally just bandwagoning crowd mentality.

[Thesp]

RadiantCowbells, I really want you to answer this:

I thought it was you.

Does anyone think pistachi0n would be the sort that would lie about this? This is important.

[Fluminator]

How is All Alone the town read out of those guys? He hasn't even posted anything since I arrived?

[Ankamius]

Spoiler: All VCs; Names updated and flips color-coded

Official Vote Count

Thesp

(2): All Alone,

Alchemist21

Ankamius

(1):

eventi

eventi

(1): Ankamius

All Alone

(1):

Not_Mafia

Fluminator

(1):

Netherspite

pistachi0n

(1):

duppin

Netherspite

(1):

Fluminator

duppin

(1): pistachi0n

Firebringer

(1): RadiantCowbells

Not Voting

(3):

Thesp

, davesaz,

Firebringer

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-25 12:00:00)

Official Vote Count

Thesp

(2): All Alone, Ankamius

Ankamius

(1):

eventi

All Alone

(1):

Not_Mafia

Alchemist21

(1): RadiantCowbells

Fluminator

(1):

Netherspite

pistachi0n

(1):

duppin

Netherspite

(1):

Fluminator

duppin

(1): pistachi0n

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Alchemist21

Not Voting

(3):

Thesp

, davesaz,

Firebringer

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-25 12:00:00)

Official Vote Count

RadiantCowbells

(2):

Alchemist21

,

Firebringer

Thesp

(2): All Alone, Ankamius

Firebringer

(2):

Netherspite

, RadiantCowbells

All Alone

(1):

Not_Mafia

pistachi0n

(1):

duppin

Netherspite

(1):

Fluminator

duppin

(1): pistachi0n

Ankamius

(1):

eventi

Not Voting

(2):

Thesp

, davesaz

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-25 12:00:00)

Official Vote Count

RadiantCowbells

(4):

Alchemist21

,

Firebringer

,

eventi

,

Fluminator

davesaz

(1):

Thesp

eventi

(1):

Netherspite

pistachi0n

(1):

duppin

Netherspite

(1): Ankamius

duppin

(1): pistachi0n

Thesp

(1): All Alone

Ankamius

(1): RadiantCowbells

Not Voting

(2):

Not_Mafia

, davesaz

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-25 12:00:00)

Fluminator

is V/LA until 7/18
davesaz has been prodded

Note:

I'm going with who I think is most scummy atm
VOTE: rad

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Official Vote Count

Netherspite

(3): Ankamius,

Fluminator

,

eventi

eventi

(2):

Netherspite

, RadiantCowbells

Fluminator

(2): All Alone,

duppin

duppin

(2): pistachi0n,

Alchemist21

davesaz

(1):

Thesp

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Firebringer

Not Voting

(2):

Not_Mafia

, davesaz

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Fluminator

is V/LA until 7/18

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-25 12:00:00)

Official Vote Count

eventi

(4):

Netherspite

, RadiantCowbells,

Thesp

,

Fluminator

Fluminator

(2): All Alone,

duppin

Netherspite

(2): Ankamius,

eventi

duppin

(1):

Alchemist21

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Firebringer

Not Voting

(3):

Not_Mafia

, davesaz, pistachi0n

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Ankamius has been prodded

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-25 12:00:00)

Official Vote Count

Netherspite

(4): Ankamius,

Fluminator

,

Alchemist21

,

Firebringer

Fluminator

(3): All Alone,

duppin

,

Thesp

eventi

(2):

Netherspite

, pistachi0n

Thesp

(1):

eventi

Firebringer

(1): RadiantCowbells

Not Voting

(2):

Not_Mafia

, davesaz

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Not_Mafia

will be prodded

If I can't find a replacement for Ankamius deadline will be fixed at 2 days for 2 days. Then I'll modkill the slot. So tell your friends to join!

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-25 12:00:00)

Ankamius replaces Ankamius effective immediately.

Official Vote Count

eventi

(6):

Netherspite

, pistachi0n,

Fluminator

, davesaz,

duppin

,

Thesp

Netherspite

(3):

Alchemist21

,

Firebringer

, Ankamius

Firebringer

(1): RadiantCowbells

Fluminator

(2):

eventi

, All Alone

Not Voting

(1):

Not_Mafia

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-25 12:00:00)

Official Vote Count

eventi

(6):

Netherspite

, pistachi0n,

Fluminator

, davesaz,

duppin

,

Thesp

Netherspite

(3):

Alchemist21

,

Firebringer

,

eventi

Firebringer

(2): RadiantCowbells, Ankamius

Not_Mafia

(1): All Alone

Not Voting

(1):

Not_Mafia

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-25 23:30:00)

Official Vote Count

eventi

(7):

Netherspite

, pistachi0n,

Fluminator

, davesaz,

duppin

,

Thesp

,

Not_Mafia

(Lynched!)

Fluminator

(3):

eventi

, RadiantCowbells, Ankamius

Netherspite

(2):

Alchemist21

,

Firebringer

Not_Mafia

(1): All Alone

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Alchemist21

will be prodded

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-26 00:30:00)

Flip incoming!

Official Vote Count

Not_Mafia

(3): Pistachi0n, Radiant Cowbells, Ankamius

Thesp

(1): All Alone

Alchemist21

(2):

Fluminator

,

Thesp

Fluminator

(3): ,

Alchemist21

,

Netherspite

,

Not_Mafia

Not Voting

(2):

duppin

, davesaz

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-10 18:30:00)

Official Vote Count

Not_Mafia

(3): pistachi0n, RadiantCowbells, Ankamius

Thesp

(3): All Alone,

Not_Mafia

, davesaz

All Alone

(1):

Alchemist21

Alchemist21

(2):

Thesp

,

Fluminator

Not Voting

(2):

Netherspite

,

duppin

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-10 18:30:00)

I'll try to analyze and stuff. I hate being the guy to drop out
VOTE: alc

Votecounter processed this incorrectly as pistachi0n. Please use 'alchemist' in the future

I've been terrible with upkeep, I realize

Official Vote Count

Thesp

(3): All Alone,

Not_Mafia

, davesaz

Alchemist21

(2):

Thesp

,

Fluminator

Not_Mafia

(2): pistachi0n, Ankamius

All Alone

(1):

Alchemist21

davesaz

(1): RadiantCowbells

Not Voting

(2):

Netherspite

,

duppin

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-10 18:30:00)

Official Vote Count

Thesp

(4): All Alone,

Not_Mafia

, davesaz,

Fluminator

Not_Mafia

(3): pistachi0n, Ankamius,

Thesp

All Alone

(1):

Alchemist21

davesaz

(1): RadiantCowbells

Not Voting

(2):

Netherspite

,

duppin

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-10 18:30:00)

Official Vote Count

Thesp

(4): All Alone, davesaz,

Fluminator

,

Not_Mafia

Not_Mafia

(4): pistachi0n, Ankamius,

Alchemist21

,

Thesp

davesaz

(2): RadiantCowbells,

duppin

Not Voting

(1):

Netherspite

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-12 14:10:00)

Official Vote Count

Not_Mafia

(6): pistachi0n, Ankamius,

Alchemist21

,

Thesp

,

Fluminator

, RadiantCowbells

(Lynched!)

Thesp

(3): All Alone, davesaz,

Not_Mafia

davesaz

(1):

duppin

Not Voting

(1):

Netherspite

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Flip incoming

Official Vote Count

davesaz

(3):

Netherspite

,

Alchemist21

, pistachi0n

All Alone

(1):

Thesp

Alchemist21

(1):

Fluminator

Netherspite

(1): RadiantCowbells

Thesp

(1): All Alone

Not Voting

(2): Ankamius, davesaz

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-27 14:20:00)

"Official" Vote Count

Ankamius

(3):

Alchemist21

,

Netherspite

, pistachi0n

Alchemist21

(2):

Fluminator

, Ankamius

pistachi0n

(2): All Alone, RadiantCowbells

davesaz

(1):

Thesp

Not Voting

(2): davesaz

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-27 14:20:00)


Lemme know if you see errors. Once I get the okay I'll find a Dom replacement.[/color]

"Official" Vote Count

Ankamius

(3):

Alchemist21

,

Netherspite

, pistachi0n

Netherspite

(2): Ankamius, RadiantCowbells

Alchemist21

(1):

Fluminator

pistachi0n

(1): All Alone

davesaz

(1):

Thesp

Not Voting

(2): davesaz

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-27 14:20:00)


FINDING DOM REPLACEMENT[/color]

"Official" Vote Count

Ankamius

(3):

Netherspite

, pistachi0n, davesaz

Netherspite

(3): Ankamius, RadiantCowbells, All Alone

davesaz

(2):

Thesp

,

Alchemist21

,

Alchemist21

(1):

Fluminator

Not Voting

(0):

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-29 14:20:00)

Fluminator

replaces Dom.

I'm extending the deadline two days to compensate for how long the slot was inactive.

[/color]

Official Vote Count

Ankamius

(2): pistachi0n, davesaz

davesaz

(2):

Thesp

,

Alchemist21

,

Netherspite

(1): RadiantCowbells,

Alchemist21

(1):

Fluminator

pistachi0n

(1): All Alone

Not Voting

(0): Ankamius,

Netherspite

,

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-29 14:20:00)[/u][/color]

Official Vote Count

Netherspite

(5): RadiantCowbells, Ankamius, All Alone,

Thesp

, pistachi0n

Alchemist21

(2):

Fluminator

,

Netherspite

,

Ankamius

(1): davesaz,

davesaz

(1):

Alchemist21

,

Not Voting

(0):

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-29 14:20:00)[/u][/color]

Official Vote Count

pistachi0n (1): RadiantCowbells
davesaz (1):

Thesp

Not Voting

(7): All Alone, Ankamius,

Fluminator

, davesaz, pistachi0n,

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-09-16 20:02:00)[/color]

Interesting Notes:

Early RadiantCowbells wagon is 100% town. Note to see who was against the wagon and why.
First time scum potentially voted together at all according to vote counts is davesaz+pistachi0n slots on eventi at the end of day 1.

Vote Count 851 is extremely important. Every single possible scum is voting either Persivul or Thesp.

Note to look at RC's vote change between 851 and 925. This makes me think RC+pistachi0n wagon is even more likely since it's consistent with the day 1 strategy and it's not risky at all to do.

Early day 3: Scum are again spacing out their votes.
#1214: 2 unconfirmed votes on another unconfirmed.
#1301: All scum are trying to keep this 1v1 between Netherspite and me going. All Alone flinches off of the train first, only to end up on Netherspite shortly after. Minimum of two scum on the end of the Netherspite wagon; minimum of one joining up after the 1v1 ended. Note to look between 1354+1398 to see how people treated davesaz. Potential strong link between davesaz and All Alone/pistachi0n.

[Ankamius]

I'm seeing two predominant patterns throughout this game.

1. Scum are spacing out their votes as much as possible.
2. When a 1v1 happens, it's always the potential scum that are supporting + furthering the 1v1. Shortly after this happens, someone jumps off one of the wagons onto a vanity wagon.

[Ankamius]

RC+pistachi0n wagon

*team

[Ankamius]

pistachi0n + All Alone + RadiantCowbells looks extraordinarily likely just from VCA alone and assuming the above two patterns are true. I'm not willing to stake the game on this yet, but it's a good starting point to see if this is likely or not.

[Ankamius]

1214 is the only thing that's preventing this from being an Occam's Razor situation. That wagon is really weird from this type of scumteam and I'd have to look closer into it.

[Ankamius]

eh

I'm going to wait until All Alone chimes in before doing any other work.

[pistachi0n]

RC, explain how I am any more confirmed scum than anybody else.

[pistachi0n]

Like, note that as soon as Thesp started questioning me Pistachi0n is immediately like ZOMG RC IS SCUMMY AF AGAIN!

She's literally just bandwagoning crowd mentality.

This is a blatant lie. You are not my top scum read.

[RadiantCowbells]

pistachi0n + All Alone + RadiantCowbells looks extraordinarily likely just from VCA alone and assuming the above two patterns are true. I'm not willing to stake the game on this yet, but it's a good starting point to see if this is likely or not.

Help me and my partner bus my other partner then.

[Thesp]

RadiantCowbells, I really want you to answer this:

I thought it was you.

Does anyone think pistachi0n would be the sort that would lie about this? This is important.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also, Ankamius's analysis is extremely straw graspy and shit. No one goes into scum chat and says "OK we're going to follow this pattern of votes," and without that being the case the entire exercise is meaningless.

VCA is terrible in general and that's got to be one of the worst examples I've ever seen.

Does anyone think pistachi0n would be the sort that would lie about this? This is important.

I don't see what your point is.

I think Pistachi0n absolutely would lie for tactical advantage, but I don't see where the tactical advantage is to be gained there so I'm assuming it's a true statement.

If you're trying to say that Pistachi0n would have targeted you with the NK because she knew you were doc, that's shit logic. I thought Alch was doc yesterday and wouldn't be surprised if scum thought he was too.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok then.

If you could instalynch any person, Pistachi0n, who would it be?

[Thesp]

Does anyone think pistachi0n would be the sort that would lie about this? This is important.

I don't see what your point is.

I think Pistachi0n absolutely would lie for tactical advantage, but I don't see where the tactical advantage is to be gained there so I'm assuming it's a true statement.

Here's the deal - TheDominator37 claimed Vanilla Townie a long time ago. I can't imagine the scum missed that, and likely discussed it behind the scenes. This is the slot Fluminator now holds.

If pistachi0n actually thought Fluminator was the doc

, then it is extraordinarily unlikely that pistachi0n is scum. Now, if pistachi0n thought someone would make the conclusions I'm making on the spur of the moment, all bets are off, but I'm skeptical about that.

VOTE: Ankamius

There's a reasonable chance the team is RadiantCowbells/davesaz/All Alone, but Ankamius feels the most like scum of all of these. I think I'd also be up for All Alone, but I'm pretty set on one of these two.

[Fluminator]

I don't think an Ank vote is a good idea right now.

[Fluminator]

VOTE: All Alone

[Fluminator]

Well, maybe he is scum too.
I'll hang around and see where the votes go. It's lylo so the game may end at any point.