Open 607 - Friends and Enemies - Game Over

[Rainbow Unicat]

+ I have been pretty obviously baiting the nightkill since day 1 and it hasn't happened yet. I have made my peace with scum continuing to deny me access to the dead thread and have managed to stop taking it personally.

Everyone in the townbloc can fill the blanks in for themselves and will fill them in in the same way.

pedit: fire, there are reasons I was townreading you at one point in the past, including some of the stuff that mastina pointed out just seemed like too obvscum to be scum interactions at the time, but too scummy to be scum is a shit reason to townread someone and you're in the scumbloc by POE. If you're town, I will have a lot of words for you in the endgame, and perhaps by the time we reach the endgame I will have found a tactful way to put them. If you're not town then *shrug*.

It's pretty obvious that I am/was having a shit towngame this time around, I fell on my arse pretty hard on day 1 with preflip associatives between THREE VANILLA TOWNIES which was embarrassing though given how my other completed recent towngames have gone lately I'm no longer really surprised or appalled at myself because I have not had a good game (as any alignment) since July but it is also very painfully obvious that I am town here, not because of anything that I have done or not done but because of how everyone else has interacted with me. I will not explain that further at this juncture but I can go over it in the endgame if you're still confused.

--P

[Firebringer]

This will probably be my last post before I get lynched:

Masons-
Rainbow Unicat
Duppin
Mastin?

Scum-
Wanderer
Lalendra
Mastin (if not mason)

I am at L-1, and as is customary for me. I will claim:

I am

Vanilla Townie

I am not going to gambit and claim Mason, even though you guys would probably unvote me cause the masons aren't going to reveal just to lynch me.

I don't fake claims as town.

Masons, you suck at this.

[Firebringer]

If you're town, I will have a lot of words for you in the endgame, and perhaps by the time we reach the endgame I will have found a tactful way to put them. If you're not town then *shrug*.

--P

Screw you Rainbow, just screw you.

Why? Because you are going to blame me for my playstyle and for you mislynching ME!

This is what this is saying "I will have alot of words for you in endgame" Just go to hell.

You piss me off so much.

WHY IN THE HELL, AS SCUM WOULD I LYNCH, BOTH!!!! Count them, BOTH!
Of my teammates?

Riddle me that?

BECAUSE IT SURE AS HELL DIDNT GET ME ANY TOWN CREDIT!

[Rainbow Unicat]

If you fakeclaimed mason, anyone in the townbloc would lolhammer you. Someone should probably still do that anyway.

pedit: it's not about your playstyle. Your playstyle is fine. It's about your (lack of) mafia theory knowledge. It's about several things that you have done toDay that are severely antitown because they help scum wincon and hurt town wincon. This game is 95% won for town anyway but you have done things toDay that make it just a little bit more likely that scum (if it's not you) will win.

Also, I'm the wrong person to ask what the scum motivation for bussing is because I have actually gotten towncred for it semirecently (in June). Your teammates weren't pulling their weight; I would have bussed them in your situation but I would have probably started earlier.

--P

[Wanderer-nl]

I came to here with reading and I need to say something about this:

Mastin, Lalendra, and Wanderer.
These are the people we actually should look at.

THEN GO LOOK AT US AND POST YOUR FINDINGS AND THEN VOTE ON OF US!

[Firebringer]

If you fakeclaimed mason, anyone in the townbloc would lolhammer you. Someone should probably still do that anyway.

pedit: it's not about your playstyle. Your playstyle is fine. It's about your (lack of) mafia theory knowledge. It's about several things that you have done toDay that are severely antitown because they help scum wincon and hurt town wincon. This game is 95% won for town anyway but you have done things toDay that make it just a little bit more likely that scum (if it's not you) will win.

Also, I'm the wrong person to ask what the scum motivation for bussing is because I have actually gotten towncred for it semirecently (in June). Your teammates weren't pulling their weight; I would have bussed them in your situation but I would have probably started earlier.

--P

At this point, I kinda hope scum win.

You personally, don't deserve a win. Because your "theory" isn't infallible. In fact, your theory only works if you and everyone here subscribes to your theory.

As soon as someone approaches the game with a different theory of how the game works and how to play it, Your theory is broken.

[Firebringer]

I came to here with reading and I need to say something about this:

Mastin, Lalendra, and Wanderer.
These are the people we actually should look at.

THEN GO LOOK AT US AND POST YOUR FINDINGS AND THEN VOTE ON OF US!

How about ending this day and hammering me?

I don't want to be here tomorrow with Rainbow Unicat anyways.

[Rainbow Unicat]

like seriously. What part of IF SCUM NIGHTKILL A VANILLA TOWNIE TONIGHT, TOWN WINS THE GAME!!!! don't you understand? Posting any speculation, no matter how inaccurate or accurate, on who the masons might be is antitown.

If you're town and we lynch you today then there are 6 people alive, and then scum kills 1 VT and there are 5 alive. 1 scum, 1 VT, 3 masons. Can the masons be lynched? no. it takes 3 votes to lynch someone and the masons are not going to bus each other in that situation. If scum hits a mason tonight then tomorrow it is 1 scum, 2 vt, 2 masons. That's not the end of the world because after we get rid of you there is still only 1 and a half people who could possibly be scum, but this game will almost certainly be called as a town victory if scum kills a VT tonight.

So if we all say who we think the masons are, even if everyone is wrong and the masons all lie about who they think the masons are to wifom the scum...it's antitown. and almost every single time town has tried to wifom me that way when I was scum, I saw what they were doing and saw through it and it was enough to put the puzzle together. This one time, a town I was in did a mass hypoclaim where every single person claimed 20 different roles that they ~maybe~ were on day 1 and by night 3 our flavour cop was useless because we had correctly figured the entire setup out.

though on second thought the last scum, whether you or not you, is not me and therefore probably wouldn't be able to figure it out so maybe carry on i don't even know. *throws up hands*

anyway it's probably you and you're just trying to go out kicking and screaming because town really has no reason to kick up a fuss about being mislynched in this situation because you'll win whether we lynch you or not but scum does so bye!

someone put the last scum out of his misery with a lolhammer now.

--P

[Rainbow Unicat]

(that was a 19 player game where we figured out the entire setup by night 3 with a flavour cop btw)

--P

[Firebringer]

^ Confirmation Bias

[Wanderer-nl]

VOTE: Firebringer

[Firebringer]

THANK YOU!

[Rainbow Unicat]

@Firebringer:

inexperience challenged post

This is the twilight trolling phase of the game. After you have been lynched but before the mod comes in to lock the thread, you can make funny posts to try to make people laugh and take the piss out of the game or vent some steam. You can pretend you were town or claim scum with the mod or post youtube videos or engage in scum theatre or do whatever you want!

Twilight trolling is an artform that takes many scumgames to perfect. It's usually adviseable to start collecting ideas for twilight trolling long in advance of your scum flip. I keep all my ideas in a text file on my computer; sometimes I'm fleshing out twilight trolling ideas even before a game I have my eye on enters signups.

You should do some twilight trolling now.

[Firebringer]

No, thank you. Also you realize I am not inexperienced right? No matter how much you say I am, or that my game theory is flawed.

I am too angry at this game to troll.

Everything I say right now is pretty genuine. I hope you lose Rainbow.

[Firebringer]

My History Of Mafia:

+2 years of playing sc2mafia (not forum mafia)
Played dozens of forum mafia games on my home site sc2mafia.com
Staff member for sc2mafia.


Very annoying when someone calls me a newb/inexperienced when its so blatantly false.

[Rainbow Unicat]

(inexperience challenged is what they call the experienced players who teach newbs how to play in the newbie games.

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, regardless of your alignment.

I am probably just as annoyed with you as you are with me.)

--P

[West9]

Vote Count 4.Final

Firebringer

[4] - duppin, mastin2, Rainbow Unicat, Wanderer-nl

[LYNCH]

Lalendra

[1] - shaddowez

mastin2

[1] - Firebringer

Not Voting

[1] - Lalendra

Firebringer has been lynched! He was a

Vanilla Townie

!

It is now Night 4
Night 4 will end at 5:00 PM PST, on Thursday, September 17, or in (expired on 2015-09-17 17:00:00)

[West9]

duppin was killed! He was a

Town Mason

.

It is now Day 5.

Vote Count 5.00

Not Voting

[5] - Wanderer-nl, Rainbow Unicat, mastin2, shaddowez, Lalendra

With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes on someone to lynch them.
Day 5 will end on October 1 at 6:30 PM PST, or in (expired on 2015-10-01 18:30:00)

[Lalendra]

VOTE: mastin

[Rainbow Unicat]

Who the fuck nightkills duppin? You should have killed me instead.

This nightkill would be a lot easier to analyse if firebringer hadn't

Masons-
Rainbow Unicat
Duppin
Mastin?

because any idiot could look at firebringer's post and say maybe firebringer was on to something about duppin.

If firebringer hadn't done that, the nightkill would be analysable, because no way lalendra kills duppin because last we heard from her she she was scumreading him. this looks more like a mastina kill than a lalendra kill. but thanks to firebringer's help, the waters are muddy now, because anyone who read post 901 could have made this kill. if he hadn't posted this, it would have been easy; either because lalendra would have killed somebody else or because mastina would have been the only one who had a reason to kill duppin.

That's why I wasn't filling in the blanks, mr scum mvp. the nightkill would have filled them in if it weren't for you.

I kind of want to vote lalendra anyway but there's a voice at the back of my head saying that mastina's doing to me what I did to BBT in n1615. but it's 4am. i'll sleep on it.

pedit: hm. yeah I am having lots of Thoughts but I'm just going to go the fuck to sleep.

--P

[shaddowez]

Mastin's giving me town vibes. She's definitely reading into the game and looking for connections. Lalendra hasn't done anything to change my mind about her since yesterDay, but I want to hear more from both of them before I vote.

[Wanderer-nl]

I'll sahre my thoughts after I get an answer to this:

@Lalendra: Why Mastin? What happened to your scumread on Rainbow?

[Lalendra]

After reading duppin's ISO, and carefully considering Rainbow's interactions with FB, I changed my mind; I really don't think they are scum. Mastin, however, was pushing for FB with what I considered pretty weak reasoning, came into the game without bothering to catch up, wouldn't give reads, and kept encouraging us to just "trust" that she was town. After FB's flip, mastin just kept looking worse and worse to me, hence the vote.

[Wanderer-nl]

Lalendra: I'll get back to you later.

Mastin: I'd like to know who you are scumreading and why.

[mastin2]

Who the fuck nightkills duppin? You should have killed me instead.

Well to be fair.

Of all the masons.

duppin was the most obvious. I knew duppin was a mason even before coming into the game.

This game's basically a sure win, though, since I know who the masons (it's very, very obvious) are and have a fair idea who the VTs are.

VOTE: Lalendra.