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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:37 pm

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In post 95, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 92, Konowa wrote:i think dwlee is town also.

This post bugs me. Scum can give town reads flawlessly, scum can't give scum reads. Therefore I think it's more valuable to give scum reads, imo.

bussing is a thing
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:39 pm

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In post 100, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 95, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 92, Konowa wrote:i think dwlee is town also.

This post bugs me. Scum can give town reads flawlessly, scum can't give scum reads. Therefore I think it's more valuable to give scum reads, imo.

bussing is a thing

I'm not gonna explain my reasoning on this until after the game to avoid giving scum advice.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:44 pm

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In post 99, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 98, Vinkah wrote:
In post 95, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 92, Konowa wrote:i think dwlee is town also.

This post bugs me. Scum can give town reads flawlessly, scum can't give scum reads. Therefore I think it's more valuable to give scum reads, imo.

i'll explain if you really want me to, but this is not true at all.

Please do. I understand that it's valuable to have town reads for PoE but I feel like scum reads accomplish more at the moment.
UNVOTE: Yasoon
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so actually town is way more interested in sorting players into town and scum lists than scum is

scum doesn't have any trouble sorting this sort of thing out because they already know who the scum are. they can claim town reads for the purpose of forging alliances, planting false associations, or any other number of reasons, but it really doesn't factor into their solving-the-game process

I'm not saying that blindly throwing out "oh this player is town" with no reason is a super towny thing to do, but I really don't see why it should bug you at this stage of the game. dude is probably just hamhandedly trying to put people into camps so the game is easier for him to solve
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:45 pm

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as a sidenote, I'm picking up some serious hedging vibes from dwl in that last couple posts
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:47 pm

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In post 102, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 99, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 98, Vinkah wrote:
In post 95, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 92, Konowa wrote:i think dwlee is town also.

This post bugs me. Scum can give town reads flawlessly, scum can't give scum reads. Therefore I think it's more valuable to give scum reads, imo.

i'll explain if you really want me to, but this is not true at all.

Please do. I understand that it's valuable to have town reads for PoE but I feel like scum reads accomplish more at the moment.
UNVOTE: Yasoon
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so actually town is way more interested in sorting players into town and scum lists than scum is

scum doesn't have any trouble sorting this sort of thing out because they already know who the scum are. they can claim town reads for the purpose of forging alliances, planting false associations, or any other number of reasons, but it really doesn't factor into their solving-the-game process

I'm not saying that blindly throwing out "oh this player is town" with no reason is a super towny thing to do, but I really don't see why it should bug you at this stage of the game. dude is probably just hamhandedly trying to put people into camps so the game is easier for him to solve

My point is in your second sentence. Mafia can give a town "read" on someone in order to get an alliance with them with minimal effort by just saying "oh this person is town."

I suppose I'm over-analyzing if such a thing even exists.

Also, what does hedging mean?
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:48 pm

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what's your read on Vinkah/Konowa
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:52 pm

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In post 84, Vinkah wrote:that clearly is not the post i was meaning to post to. wtf?

#36, try this?

In post 88, Vinkah wrote:i mean working under this assumption could lead me to false positives or whatever words we want to use here.

where's your head at as far as scum, shinobi?


Not sure.

In post 95, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 92, Konowa wrote:i think dwlee is town also.

This post bugs me. Scum can give town reads flawlessly, scum can't give scum reads. Therefore I think it's more valuable to give scum reads, imo.


What's wrong with giving out townreads, exactly?
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:54 pm

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Don't know why that last quote showed up.
Alas, my bad.

UT is posting quite differently from what I remember. Probably need to do some research.
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:54 pm

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In post 105, Untrod Tripod wrote:what's your read on Vinkah/Konowa

Konowa I already made clear (although I'm gonna label it as over-analyzating for now) and there's nothing else I can even add cause that's their only post in the entire game. Vinkah is seeming helpful and asking good questions of others. The bomb claim is interesting, not sure if it's an elaborate gambit or not, but I'll believe it for now. It's awfully ballsy to claim.

Shinobi, I wasn't implying there was a problem with it, just that I'd prefer scum reads from them as well (considering that's their only post and they throw the word "also" in there)
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:57 pm

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same person. i alt slipped, dwlee.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:00 pm

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In post 109, Vinkah wrote:same person. i alt slipped, dwlee.

They're your alt account? Isn't that like, cheating?
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:01 pm

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In post 108, Dwlee99 wrote:Konowa I already made clear

where?
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:02 pm

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In post 107, Shinobi wrote:UT is posting quite differently from what I remember. Probably need to do some research.

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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:06 pm

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In post 111, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 108, Dwlee99 wrote:Konowa I already made clear

where?

My post about their town read on me. I wanted to have them post more with some scum reads rather than only town reads as well as more content = more reads.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:07 pm

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In post 112, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 107, Shinobi wrote:UT is posting quite differently from what I remember. Probably need to do some research.

meta is trash


You and I both know this isn't true.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:09 pm

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In post 113, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 111, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 108, Dwlee99 wrote:Konowa I already made clear

where?

My post about their town read on me. I wanted to have them post more with some scum reads rather than only town reads as well as more content = more reads.



This?
In post 95, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 92, Konowa wrote:i think dwlee is town also.

This post bugs me. Scum can give town reads flawlessly, scum can't give scum reads. Therefore I think it's more valuable to give scum reads, imo.

Or this?
In post 99, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 98, Vinkah wrote:
In post 95, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 92, Konowa wrote:i think dwlee is town also.

This post bugs me. Scum can give town reads flawlessly, scum can't give scum reads. Therefore I think it's more valuable to give scum reads, imo.

i'll explain if you really want me to, but this is not true at all.

Please do. I understand that it's valuable to have town reads for PoE but I feel like scum reads accomplish more at the moment.
UNVOTE: Yasoon
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because neither is a read
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:13 pm

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In post 114, Shinobi wrote:
In post 112, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 107, Shinobi wrote:UT is posting quite differently from what I remember. Probably need to do some research.

meta is trash


You and I both know this isn't true.
you know that

I do not know that.

what I DO know that every single fucking game I've played in since 2011 has had some well-meaning player with time on their hands read a bunch of past games and make a series of disasterously incorrect reads based on meta nonsense.

that's a fact jack
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:15 pm

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In post 115, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 113, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 111, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 108, Dwlee99 wrote:Konowa I already made clear

where?

My post about their town read on me. I wanted to have them post more with some scum reads rather than only town reads as well as more content = more reads.



This?
In post 95, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 92, Konowa wrote:i think dwlee is town also.

This post bugs me. Scum can give town reads flawlessly, scum can't give scum reads. Therefore I think it's more valuable to give scum reads, imo.

Or this?
In post 99, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 98, Vinkah wrote:
In post 95, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 92, Konowa wrote:i think dwlee is town also.

This post bugs me. Scum can give town reads flawlessly, scum can't give scum reads. Therefore I think it's more valuable to give scum reads, imo.

i'll explain if you really want me to, but this is not true at all.

Please do. I understand that it's valuable to have town reads for PoE but I feel like scum reads accomplish more at the moment.
UNVOTE: Yasoon
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because neither is a read

I gave my opinion on the only post they made which was a short 6 word post but I guess my philosophy is wrong for preferring town reads over scum reads.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:16 pm

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scum reads over town reads**
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:16 pm

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jesus christ lord and savior it's only page 5 and I'm reaching for the whiskey
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:17 pm

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VOTE: Untrod Tripod
RVS?!?!?!
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:17 pm

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DO YOU THINK VINKAH IS SCUM YES OR NO

PEDIT

NO IT'S NOT RVS ANYMORE MOTHERFUCKER GET YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:19 pm

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In post 121, Untrod Tripod wrote:DO YOU THINK VINKAH IS SCUM YES OR NO

PEDIT

NO IT'S NOT RVS ANYMORE MOTHERFUCKER GET YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME

I think Vinkah is a small man trying to survive in a large world.
^ that's not alignment indictive
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:19 pm

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YOU TAKE A NUMBER AND WAIT IN LINE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:19 pm

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In post 121, Untrod Tripod wrote:DO YOU THINK VINKAH IS SCUM YES OR NO

PEDIT

NO IT'S NOT RVS ANYMORE MOTHERFUCKER GET YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME

Also please don't argue with me about RVS.

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