Mini 1722: Warcraft III - Reign of MAFIA (DOOM HAS COME)

[Albert B. Rampage]

Whats an ascetic?

[Vedith]

Wiki says immune to night actions but kills.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: Netherspite

[Anatole Kuragin]

I killed FA and there was reasonable suspicion on them yesterday. I think it's reasonable to assume mafia wouldn't have shot them too.

I think we lynch Shinobi since he was roleblocked?

[Vedith]

Well the problem we have is that there are only 5 people left.
As scum, I would have not shot knowing that Shinobi was getting blocked (if he was town).

It might be that obvious but we need to consider this move from scum.

[Netherspite]

I'd say we lynch me and NK ABR.
If he's really night-immune BG he'll survive.
If he's not - lynch him next day.

The only flaw in this scheme is ABR being night-immune scum (what a funny setup for the Vig though that would be...)

[Netherspite]

I meant if he's not - he'll die lol.

[Vedith]

That's actually not a terrible plan.
ABR, thoughts?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Shoot me before lylo but not tonight.

Today we should lynch Nether and shoot Shinobi if Anatole killed FA.

If his kill failed again, then we need to re-evaluate.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Going into night with 4 players, you can shoot me. Scum may get off a kill and we would be in 3p lylo but I will be confirmed. Anatole and Vedith as well.

[Netherspite]

But you're night-immune, aren't you?
Also, why shooting Shinobi if we can just roleblock him?

[Netherspite]

Lynch me, Shoot ABR, Roleblock Shinobi.
If we assume that Anatole & Vedith are town (and it's highly unlikely they aren't) this is autowin.

[Netherspite]

If Anatole ain't town and shooting ABR somehow makes him win, he'll do that anyway. So it doesn't matter.
If Vedith ain't town:
- if he'll shoot he will be outed in 4p situation (if ABR is town he doesn't have incentive to lie right? so he'll survive)
- if he won't shoot it'll be 5p with only me dead and there will be plenty of time to consider other options with ABR now confirmed night immune.
So it's safe to just assume they're town.

[Performer]

Vote: Netherspite

That's quite a fast vote before Net offered the elaborate details of his plan.

Going into night with 4 players, you can shoot me. Scum may get off a kill and we would be in 3p lylo but I will be confirmed. Anatole and Vedith as well.

I see you left me out. I feel lonely now. What are you trying to say?

I'd say we lynch me and NK ABR.
If he's really night-immune BG he'll survive.
If he's not - lynch him next day.

The only flaw in this scheme is ABR being night-immune scum (what a funny setup for the Vig though that would be...)

I highly doubt he would be night-immune scum
that would be crazier than a 1-shot Bp Doc, right Ved? LOL
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So I'm trying to wrap my head around this:
Ved blocked Shin
Ana shot & killed FA

Alb quickly voted Net at start of d3

Net's talk of Shin & I being town, sounds logical. Perhaps scum tried killing FA too then? This could explain the 1 death at night.
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Going to see if I can derive anything extra from the nk analysis, motives, and vca.

Spoiler:

much thank to Thor for his instructions on that for town players

[Vedith]

that would be crazier than a 1-shot Bp Doc, right Ved? LOL

XD

Also... We should swap Shinobi with Nether...
Since he was blocked.

[Performer]

that would be crazier than a 1-shot Bp Doc, right Ved? LOL

XD

Also... We should swap Shinobi with Nether...
Since he was blocked.

I highly agree. As you posted this, I am in the middle of constructing my case against Shin.

[Performer]

I've finished going through FA's ISO. Going through the other dead-man's ISO - inte.
Planning to review ending-day vote counts from the two moderators, as well.

[Performer]

@Shin I noticed your last post was a prodge, you stated you wanted to catch up on next day Nov 7, a lynch was achieved on that day though, and we're 2 days into d4. What's going on?
I went over your ISO and noticed you mention some specific things like wanting to lynch me early on, asking why people should lynch Firebringer the 3p Survivor, and the rest of your posts and interactions ....

-your 935 was a big defense of TSB, not wanting him gone compared to inte
-you had this border-hopping post 785 on TSB , stated FA was scum, stated inte as scum...when they both flipped town
-797 looks like your only reason for voting inte. No transparency in giving elaboration
-you stated you wanted inte, FA, and me lynched, at various points of your ISO - we're all town
-you agreed with Shiro in 370 (an extremely suboptimal agreement), about me being scum. Then your 484 defends Shiro along a scummy attack on my points
-you mentioned twice that the game is "boring" to you, and the rest of your ISO looks like you're playing super safe
-you questioned inte & Alb why they voted Shiro, on d1
-Ved blocked you on n3, and it turned out there was only 1 nk
-though it was mentioned that TSB pushed for your death, maybe he did that to provide town credit to you in case you were the remaining scum in the game

This is my case against Shin.

[Performer]

Well that was a rather quick and underwhelming ISO of inte...

Went through dead-man FA's ISO, and wow. I wish the guy put up a reads list at some point.
This post from FA is the most revealing to me, in terms of relevance for our d4 lynch decision: 942 regarding Shin's lynch desire to lynch FA.

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I just noticed

Alb

is on V/LA until 11/19??! How convenient.

His page 65 interactions, not voting Shiro or claimed Survivor Fire, and even stating the below, make Alb my other scumread:

“Believe me, or don't. It will affect how much I will support you in the future.
And don't ask the guy with the title of Illogical Rampage for logical reasoning lol”
That sounded like a scum threat to me.

And post 575 of the vote count showed Shin/Shir/Fire voting me, with Alb keeping his vote on a 3rd option...to this day I smh at what a player of his calber was doing, at that point.

The combined above make me lean scum toward Alb.
However, his claimed Bp PR makes me hesitant to have him as the d4 lynch.

[Performer]

Damnit I really hoped Alb was town this game.

[Performer]

n1: vez shot Shir, and Branz died
n2: Ved blocked Ana, Titus died from scum kill
n3: Ved blocked Shin, FA died because Ana shot FA

Just a refresher for folks and myself.

[Performer]

^ebwop:

n1: vez shot Shir, and Branz died from scum kill
n2: Ved blocked Ana, Titus died from scum kill
n3: Ved blocked Shin, FA died because Ana shot FA

[Albert B. Rampage]

We all agree that if I'm scum, I can't be bp right?

Makes no sense for scum to have two RBs or two BPs.

So tonight:

I will protect Anatole.
Anatole will shoot me.
Vedith roleblocks performer.

Vedith and I will be confirmed town tomorrow.

We lynch everyone until 3p lylo is me, vedith and anatole.

Before that point, we will automatically win.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We can lynch either nether or shinobi today.

Scum have no chance against 3 confirmed PRs.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Makes no sense for scum to have a traitor who can heal, and two BP buddies lol.

I'm definitely town by that logic.