Mini 1728: Circus Mafia (Game Over)


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Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:16 am

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Sigh. I should've listened to my gut that said lapsa was just too convenient of a lynch target. Hindsight is 20/20...

I don't think I could've convinced lapsa to vote JJD over me, though.
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Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:18 am

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In post 1972, toolenduso wrote:Lapsa, I gotta say the fakeclaim did not help.


arguably. bit sore perf didn't trust me enough to tell he's 1-shot

as i said - just finished 2 games with scum neighborizer.
and i did it smoothly - perf had a chance to chime in and ease my paranoia

combine that with zulfs push on you, const/ari being total nulls, wagon on my townread gim

and i really wanted to do it - from experimentation point of view

-------

Hope I'm not making a mistake but if I kill Gim then Tool is gonna wonder why in the worlds a scum Lapsa would leave me alive.


^ jarjar said this on game thread too. sounded as actual scum plan

and this one:

In post 1873, Lapsa wrote:also - a fairly deep thought.
conflicts with shallowness of some of your pushes on me and seems scum selfconscious.
ain't too serious though


and stubborness

but that was all i actually got on him
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Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:18 am

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In post 1976, Lapsa wrote:but that was all i actually got on him


and that it was suspiciously little
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Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:24 am

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congrats JarJar! You did great <3
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Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:27 am

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In post 1975, Gimlear wrote:Sigh. I should've listened to my gut that said lapsa was just too convenient of a lynch target. Hindsight is 20/20...

I don't think I could've convinced lapsa to vote JJD over me, though.


all you had to do - to go through my stuff giving your thoughts on them. be patient and factually correct
(e.g. i found that cop/role cop stuff really stupid - you could avert it just by admitting that)

keep in mind - that waterfall of posts would have been way shorter in case you did.
like our conversation with jarjar

that's all i needed

and if you engaged jarjar (even small questions about his thought processes on certain situations would do) - game would become interesting again

anyway - ggwp
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Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:28 am

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greetings, plot
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Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:34 am

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Labas Lapsa! I was following this game because mario is my friend, and then some other familiar names were in it too.
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Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:36 am

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In post 1981, Plotinus wrote:Labas Lapsa! I was following this game because mario is my friend, and then some other familiar names were in it too.

I remember once I was reading the wiki and saw one of your planned games was called "Circus Mafia" :eek:
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Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:38 am

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Mario, as i already wrote - found lack of link map really painful.
and that you edited vote counts early on

apart from that - good job

thanks for hosting this game :)
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Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:42 am

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In post 1983, Lapsa wrote:Mario, as i already wrote - found lack of link map really painful.
and that you edited vote counts early on

apart from that - good job

thanks for hosting this game :)

yeah.
i didn't really know about all the tools people used back then (I click on the forums from the main screen.), and editing the vcs wasn't a great idea either
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Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:53 am

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In post 1982, MarioManiac4 wrote:
In post 1981, Plotinus wrote:Labas Lapsa! I was following this game because mario is my friend, and then some other familiar names were in it too.

I remember once I was reading the wiki and saw one of your planned games was called "Circus Mafia" :eek:

circus was the code name for slavic music mafia i. :]
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Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:03 am

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Performer: As for Lapsa, maybe English isn't his first language but I continued finding it challenging in understanding his posts.
Being unclear is a quick way to get yourself lynched because it'll start looking like you're trying to be vague or establish chaos.


quick? i got till lylo

and that's often a choice to stay unclear

you are missing point of chaos. it's prerequisite of order - adds more weight to everything said or done

if there's an "elephant in a room", you can't really weasel out game with some silly "oh i checked some meta" arguments.
it forces to think and question intentions. bursts paranoia bubbles

as for this particular fakeclaim - yeah, can't say it was really that beneficial.
wouldn't say it's the sole reason town lost though

now imagine you being x-shot and fakeclaim actually going through.
== guaranteed 2 more people in hood. a potential to swing game upside down in a moment
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Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:08 am

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only thing i actually kind a regret was - quickhammering Aristophanes
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Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:16 am

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Well played JarJar.

Too bad that Makara flaked out really hard and Skybird was left in aa really crappy position.

Thanks for modding Mario, game modding was smooth.

Shameless plug: You were all great and I'd be happy if you joined my Large normal in signups! (16p).
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Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:53 am

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gg y'all. Thanks for running, Mario.


gonna sign up now AP
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Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:11 am

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jarjar, i bet you know this one already

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Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:37 am

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Would like to add that I enjoyed Keyser's giffing :)
"Half of the game is figuring out who the scum is. The other half is convincing everyone else that you're right." -- PlaysWithSquirrels, in Newbie 437
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Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:58 am

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Well-played mafia in the end (especially JarJarDrinks [MVP], at the point I left the game, he was not on my scumdar, my other town/scum reads were finely tuned) - I truly wish I'd survived a bit longer in this game, as I was enjoying playing with you guys. My town-read of toolenduso was like nothing I'd experienced before :lol:

If you're ever up for another game, count me in.
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Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:59 am

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Thanks to MarioManiac4 too :) Cheers for the invite bro x
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Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:57 pm

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In post 1981, Plotinus wrote:Labas Lapsa! I was following this game because mario is my friend, and then some other familiar names were in it too.
Oh no, you got to read another game where I failed and flailed!
I must look so bad. lol

In post 1987, Lapsa wrote:only thing i actually kind a regret was - quickhammering Aristophanes
I mean, was there going to be any other outcome that day?
I really did try my hardest that phase and I'm sorry I was so bitter in the dead thread.
I came out of all of it with a townread on you, which surprised me.

That said, good game.
Darth Jar Jar, you were spectacular.
Mario, it was fun!

Zulfy had a great use of his power and I'd argue town MVP there.
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Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:13 pm

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This game was probably the most fun I've ever had playing mafia. (Even if I lost, FOR THE FIRST TIME mind you) I hope to play with all of you soon.

Aris: What did you in was your apparent lack of time to be involved in the game, I guess maybe try to plan ahead better next time?
Lapsa: You did very well, I like how you came out swinging at the very end, you even were catching on to JJD for a second there.
JJD: You were really great. I was so shocked to find out you were scum. Good game.
AP: Ha got u

I'm not gonna go down a list here haha, but suffice to say that it's been a fun couple of months with you all. See ya next time.
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Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:01 pm

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In post 1994, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1987, Lapsa wrote:
only thing i actually kind a regret was - quickhammering Aristophanes


I mean, was there going to be any other outcome that day?
I really did try my hardest that phase and I'm sorry I was so bitter in the dead thread.
I came out of all of it with a townread on you, which surprised me.


well - we could talk more and maybe get jarjar scumvibes.
i actually had issues for a moment with jarjar's townread on you, just hasted too much and didn't bring it up

tool's certainty about town jarjar confused me most - got lazy

because of that fakeclaiming thing (with which even perf had issues till the very end) -
was forced to go into town brute force mode (which actually is position i'm fairly comfortable in unless day1)

pidgeon quick hammer was just a red-herring. thought you would flip scum

and yeah, Aristo - i'm having problems reading you. just as i said - it's like you take no responsibility at all T_T

but no, no hard feelings. it's a game
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Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:03 pm

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tool: cmon tubecat


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Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:45 pm

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In post 1996, Lapsa wrote:
In post 1994, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1987, Lapsa wrote:
only thing i actually kind a regret was - quickhammering Aristophanes


I mean, was there going to be any other outcome that day?
I really did try my hardest that phase and I'm sorry I was so bitter in the dead thread.
I came out of all of it with a townread on you, which surprised me.


well - we could talk more and maybe get jarjar scumvibes.
i actually had issues for a moment with jarjar's townread on you, just hasted too much and didn't bring it up

tool's certainty about town jarjar confused me most - got lazy

because of that fakeclaiming thing (with which even perf had issues till the very end) -
was forced to go into town brute force mode (which actually is position i'm fairly comfortable in unless day1)

pidgeon quick hammer was just a red-herring. thought you would flip scum

and yeah, Aristo - i'm having problems reading you. just as i said - it's like you take no responsibility at all T_T

but no, no hard feelings. it's a game
I have noticed lately that I can be very non-commital in my reads. It's something to work on for sure.
I look at things as information and use it as evidence, rather than using it to form
my own
read a lot of the time. Even though my conclusions are based on evidence, they don't look like my own. So I definitely see where you're coming from there.

I did have fun with our banter, even if it frustrated my slightly. I hope to play with you again so we can figure each other out better, Lapsa!
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Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:53 am

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Thanks for the compliments guys. I feel like I was given a lot of towncred for the makara lynch which is what had alot of people fooled. I honestly just felt like mak was on everyones scum list and people would eventually end up voting there so I tried to just get on the wagon early since it was p much dead weight scum @ that point.

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